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    Quote Originally Posted by Akucaen View Post
    I think it's more a case of domestication. Cats aren't scared of humans and fundamentally don't have a reason to mistrust us.
    He was implying the cat should understand what games are and electricity is and what a video game system is and that there will be consequences for pushing a particular button or pulling out a particular cord that would turn the game off. So many things wrong with the whole sentiment.

    Ignoring all the trolling in this thread which was expected and very entertaining I am curios,

    Do people think that the intelligence of an animal should be based solely on the comparison of that animal to the human brain?

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    No I think we should compare it to the brain of a carrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    He was implying the cat should understand what games are and electricity is and what a video game system is and that there will be consequences for pushing a particular button or pulling out a particular cord that would turn the game off. So many things wrong with the whole sentiment.

    Ignoring all the trolling in this thread which was expected and very entertaining I am curios,

    Do people think that the intelligence of an animal should be based solely on the comparison of that animal to the human brain?
    I didn't read his post, heh. Also no to your question. Cats are extremely intelligent in their own right, but just because they don't understand electricity doesn't make them stupid. A lot of the animals we take for granted are very intelligent, oddly enough.

    (No, not implying you too believe an animal is dumb for not knowing what electricity is, just in case.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    No I think we should compare it to the brain of a carrot.
    Carrots are delicious.

    Edit: Akucaen that is what I was getting at. I don't think that intelligence is simply based on the comparison of one animals brain to the human brain I think what humans often consider "dumb" is more of a matter of perspective. People confuse an animals actions as dumb when in fact the animal is just perceiving the situation differently and has different priorities surrounding the environment and how they interact with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    Carrots are delicious.
    And so are cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    Carrots are delicious.

    Edit: Akucaen that is what I was getting at. I don't think that intelligence is simply based on the comparison of one animals brain to the human brain I think what humans often consider "dumb" is more of a matter of perspective. People confuse an animals actions as dumb when in fact the animal is just perceiving the situation differently and has different priorities surrounding the environment and how they interact with it.
    I get you. I ignore that very large penises exist when I compare mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    Carrots are delicious.

    Edit: Akucaen that is what I was getting at. I don't think that intelligence is simply based on the comparison of one animals brain to the human brain I think what humans often consider "dumb" is more of a matter of perspective. People confuse an animals actions as dumb when in fact the animal is just perceiving the situation differently and has different priorities surrounding the environment and how they interact with it.
    Relative thinking, like logic, is a goddamn superpower. We should form a modern-day hall of justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    I get you. I ignore that very large penises exist when I compare mine.
    I am glad that works for you. Anything to make Day feel better about himself makes it a better day.

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    Anything that makes a kitten seems smarter etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    I am glad that works for you. Anything to make Day feel better about himself makes it a better day.

    Pretty much lol. Throwing hate grenades from the trailer park is serious business, just go with the flow. He's a one trick pony, watch the influx of real_nigga jokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizango View Post
    Pretty much lol. Throwing hate grenades from the trailer park is serious business, just go with the flow. He's a one trick pony, watch the influx of real_nigga jokes.
    Damn it Miz, stop with the fucking Texas hate would ya

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    I'm from VA where my homeboy kitten killah happens to be from thank you very much. Miz actin like he didn't pick up his fat white wife from vista view trailer suites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Effluo View Post
    Damn it Miz, stop with the fucking Texas hate would ya
    I was innocent that time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    I'm from VA where my homeboy kitten killah happens to be from thank you very much. Miz actin like he didn't pick up his fat white wife from vista view trailer suites.

    Oh man, reaching lol.

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    fat bitch prolly smokes dem koolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    fat bitch prolly smokes dem koolz
    oh god lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linliel View Post
    I bet you're fun at parties.
    I usually sit in the corner and wait for someone to look over at me so I can make eye contact and make them feel awkward. Then I bitch to whichever friend brought me to the party that I'm bored and would have preferred to have stayed home where I can make controversial posts on BG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyreth View Post
    Apparently, you have never seen how important a pet is to someone who has nobody else. I'd say there's more of those "least important life forms" around that have saved the sanity of the old, injured, sick or alone than you'd ever think. Similar benefits accrue to pet owners in general.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal-assisted_therapy

    Also in turn, the act traumatized the owner of said kitten, which qualifies as an assault in my book. Even treating them as aesthetic property, having someone violently destroy them in front of you is disgusting and criminal.
    People often develop similar connections with inanimate objects. Ripping the head off a kid's favorite teddy bear may affect the kid just as much as killing his kitten. A sentimental bond is just that- Sentimental.

    Adjective

    sentimental (comparative more sentimental, superlative most sentimental)
    1. characterized by sentiment, sentimentality or excess emotion
    2. derived from emotion rather than reason
    3. romantic

    My objection is that the Animal Cruelty laws, and the general public's view of the subject, are largely based on sentiment rather than reason. Obviously, I strongly disagree with this. I'm not saying that the guy shouldn't be punished, and I'm not saying the owner shouldn't be pissed. All I'm saying is that people need to put down their torches and pitchforks and see his offense for what it really is: destruction of property.

    Regarding the guy's mental state, he should be evaluated for anger management issues NOT because it was a kitten that he "broke", but that he broke anything at ALL as a result of his video game being accidentally unplugged.

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    Except you are ignoring the simple fact that it is a living animal while inanimate objects are well... inanimate.

    There is a special part of your brain that most people possess that allow you to have compassion and a conscious when it comes to living animals. This is a different part of the brain from the part that handles how you interact with non-living things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    Except you are ignoring the simple fact that it is a living animal while inanimate objects are well... inanimate.

    There is a special part of your brain that most people possess that allow you to have compassion and a conscious when it comes to living animals. This is a different part of the brain from the part that handles how you interact with non-living things.
    In the privacy of my own mind, I can allow myself to get a bit teary-eyed when a character I like in a story dies, or when I think of the dog I had when I grew up and how she died when I was ~20, but when it comes to making decisions in the real world, I put that stuff aside and think of what these things really are and how much objective value they have to my well-being.

    I couldn't care less about what people think, but I want them to at least ACT rationally in all things that affect others. Our laws, especially, should be strictly centered in objectivity.

    As for the people screaming for the guys head for killing a cat, I guess I just enjoy pointing out how misguided and illogical their rage is.

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    Except AGAIN you are ignoring the fact that even on a completely objective logical path of thinking a LIVING ANIMAL is still different from an inanimate object and thus should be treated differently in the eyes of the law.

    I agree with you the extreme rage that comes out comes from a place of compassion and sentimental feelings towards cute animals.

    But the point still remains that animal cruelty laws exist because the law recognizes the difference between a living animal and an inanimate object.

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