How women are more equal than men

[Cesaria]

Women only gyms! Although I'm sure they'd have to let you in if you raised a big enough stink about inequality.

You wouldn't want to go in one - the women at my gym drive me fucking nuts because they drip around in packs (well the guys do that too but at least the guys do some working out), all go and hog a line of machines together and then cycle at 1 metre/decade so they don't get hot and sweaty and ruin their makeup (and yes I've seen girls in the changing rooms putting ON makeup to go into the fucking gym).

[Darus Grey]

She divorced a lawyer, who makes about 300-400k/year. They have 2 children, and end result of the divorce was she would receive 2k/week for child support....... and she gets the house for a year, while he pays the mortage on it still. After the year has passed the house is sold and he keeps the money from the sale. Once the children hit the age of 18, child support stops and then she gets nothing pretty much.

So woman don't always make out in divorce

So your worst case scenario is she "only" gets 104k a year from her ex for doing jack?(or more accurately, for doing something she'd have to anyways, not let the children starve to death).

Must be so hard to be her.

I guess when I think about it, that's not even a sarcastic comment, he got off pretty good... fact that 104k a year is "pretty good" is why the whole system is stupid as fuck.

She made out, just not as well as other women.

[jmc]

So your worst case scenario is she "only" gets 104k a year from her ex for doing jack?

Must be so hard to be her.

Well, there are other things that go with this as well......... that 104k/year really turns out to around 30k/yr for her. Happens when the person your married to, doesn't pay taxes for a few years. IRS goes after both if filed jointly......

Not to mention no option to purchase the house/continue paying the mortage on the house she is living in.........

Or that she would have no money once the kids hit a certain age, but any type of savings would be dried up due to IRS issues on his part.

I'd still say she was fucked


Theres alot going into it, she isnt just getting a lump sum of money a year. Has to work like everyone else to survive, so no she isnt doing jack.


Just wanted to point out the general stereotype of woman always getting 50%+ off of guys when divorce happens, isnt actually true.

[Cesaria]

My mum got naff all off my father when he got caught with his knob somewhere it shouldn't have been and they split. The pittance he WAS made to pay in maintenance (it was something like £200 a month) he rarely bothered to pay anyway. Can't always go on an anti-woman crusade on this one, not all women come out of divorces happy and in the money - and that money was intended to look after and contribute toward the upkeep of his son. Whatever a chip on your shoulder you have against women (and it's well known I'm pretty anti-girls expecting favours because they're girls) - you can't expect blokes to be able to walk out on their children without contributing toward the small-humans they helped bring into the world.

[#686578]

Domestic violence I would have to say both male and female are equal.

If there are signs of a guy beating his wife, the guy gets locked up.......

if there are signs of a girl beating her husband, the guy gets locked up.....

and under select cases, both can get locked up under certain circumstances.


Divorce it all depends as well, my current girlfriend would be a somewhat prime example woman don't always make out in divorce.

She divorced a lawyer, who makes about 300-400k/year. They have 2 children, and end result of the divorce was she would receive 2k/week for child support....... and she gets the house for a year, while he pays the mortage on it still. After the year has passed the house is sold and he keeps the money from the sale. Once the children hit the age of 18, child support stops and then she gets nothing pretty much.

So woman don't always make out in divorce

So your worst case scenario is she "only" gets 104k a year from her ex for doing jack?(or more accurately, for doing something she'd have to anyways, not let the children starve to death).

Must be so hard to be her.

I guess when I think about it, that's not even a sarcastic comment, he got off pretty good... fact that 104k a year is "pretty good" is why the whole system is stupid as fuck.

She made out, just not as well as other women.

Well, there are other things that go with this as well......... that 104k/year really turns out to around 30k/yr for her. Happens when the person your married to, doesn't pay taxes for a few years. IRS goes after both if filed jointly......

Not to mention no option to purchase the house/continue paying the mortage on the house she is living in.........

Or that she would have no money once the kids hit a certain age, but any type of savings would be dried up due to IRS issues on his part.

I'd still say she was fucked


Theres alot going into it, she isnt just getting a lump sum of money a year. Has to work like everyone else to survive, so no she isnt doing jack.


Just wanted to point out the general stereotype of woman always getting 50%+ off of guys when divorce happens, isnt actually true.

He's got you there Darus. She doesnt make off with 50% of his earnings, only 33% of his salary per year and the house.

And really, it's not like she doesnt deserve it. Kids are expensive. She NEEDS that 104k/year, it's impossible to raise a child on anything LESS than 104k/year plus if she actually worked and tried to provide for herself.

If anything, the father won this battle. I mean, look. Now he doesnt have to raise his kids anymore, he doesnt have to live in that stupid house he didnt want anyway, and all that troublesome money? Jesus fucking christ he was tripping over the cash getting out of bed, thank god she's taking it from him.

[HadesChubbs]

Well, there are other things that go with this as well......... that 104k/year really turns out to around 30k/yr for her. Happens when the person your married to, doesn't pay taxes for a few years. IRS goes after both if filed jointly......

Not to mention no option to purchase the house/continue paying the mortage on the house she is living in.........

Or that she would have no money once the kids hit a certain age, but any type of savings would be dried up due to IRS issues on his part.

I'd still say she was fucked


Theres alot going into it, she isnt just getting a lump sum of money a year. Has to work like everyone else to survive, so no she isnt doing jack.


Just wanted to point out the general stereotype of woman always getting 50%+ off of guys when divorce happens, isnt actually true.

shes fucked how? You do know women can get jobs right?

Also.. when you divorce a LAWYER you cant expect to win big

[jmc]

shes fucked how?

you do know women can get jobs right?

Please re-read.

She does work, and I never said she is fucked and can't support anything........ she got FUCKED over in the divorce. Theres a difference XD

[Pirian]

Please re-read.

She does work, and I never said she is fucked and can't support anything........ she got FUCKED over in the divorce. Theres a difference XD

So he still gets his Wednesday blowjobs from her or something?

[ozz]

I think that just about every highs school student in the U.S. reads either Animal Farm or 1984, if not both, at some point before graduating.

no

[#686578]

Please re-read.

She does work, and I never said she is fucked and can't support anything........ she got FUCKED over in the divorce. Theres a difference XD

How does her winning the house, the kids, and 104k/year qualify her as getting "FUCKED over" in the divorce?

[Beckwin]

I think you guys are focusing on the 104K figure too much; it's probably that high because of the joint-filed tax violations/evasion. When you divorce, your tax debt doesn't magically go away/get shifted entirely to one partner. I'd think that would factor into the settlement. She also doesn't get the house, she gets to live there for a year before the ex-husband gets to sell it and keep all the money.

[jmc]

How does her winning the house, the kids, and 104k/year qualify her as getting "FUCKED over" in the divorce?

So here is the breakdown.

I misunderstood, she gets 2k/every 2 weeks. However to be fair, gonna break it down like it was 50k/year or 104k/year.

The house is hers for 1 year after the divorce was settled, once the year has passed her ex sells the house and keeps the money after fully paying off the mortage. She is living in the house, but does not have it......... he does tech.

They filed taxes jointly for years, except he didn't actually file anything with all his stocks and such like he told her he was doing (figured for a lawyer, he would know better). They both got hit really hard from the IRS, due to him not doing taxes.... so he owes the IRS a fuckton of money, and so does she. So that child support is not really 50k-104k/year due to error in both their ways but mostly him.

Once her children hit the age of 18, child support of course stops.

So.......... she gets say, 50k/year or 104k/year. Kicked out of her house, gets her kids 5.5 days out of the week.... and expensive IRS payments.

He still gets 300k-400k a year, the same irs payments........ and a year after divorce a 500-600k house.

So with the whole stereotype of woman get 50%+ from the husband, just doesn't always happen. In her instance...... it didn't.

[guartz]

what the fuck are you all talking about here?

[#686578]

So here is the breakdown.

I misunderstood, she gets 2k/every 2 weeks. However to be fair, gonna break it down like it was 50k/year or 104k/year.

The house is hers for 1 year after the divorce was settled, once the year has passed her ex sells the house and keeps the money after fully paying off the mortage. She is living in the house, but does not have it......... he does tech.

They filed taxes jointly for years, except he didn't actually file anything with all his stocks and such like he told her he was doing (figured for a lawyer, he would know better). They both got hit really hard from the IRS, due to him not doing taxes.... so he owes the IRS a fuckton of money, and so does she. So that child support is not really 50k-104k/year due to error in both their ways but mostly him.

Once her children hit the age of 18, child support of course stops.

So.......... she gets say, 50k/year or 104k/year. Kicked out of her house, gets her kids 5.5 days out of the week.... and expensive IRS payments.

He still gets 300k-400k a year, the same irs payments........ and a year after divorce a 500-600k house.

So with the whole stereotype of woman get 50%+ from the husband, just doesn't always happen. In her instance...... it didn't.

Okay she didnt get exactly 50%

And because of that she loses and he wins?

I'm sorry, at what point did she deserve 50k/year for this?

Honestly, she got the kids. That's just a double penalty. First she takes what he wants, then he has to pay for her because she has what he wants. I bet he'd pay twice as much just so he could keep the kids instead of seeing them every other weekend.

[Yuri-G]

that is one thing I have never agreed with about custody and divorce law. "here, you can have the kids, but he has to pay for them." WTF? it's like paying someone to kick you in the ass. I'm sure there are individual cases where it makes sense, maybe the husband was abusive, but for the most part it seems completely unreasonable and infuriating.

[jmc]

Okay she didnt get exactly 50%

And because of that she loses and he wins?

I'm sorry, at what point did she deserve 50k/year for this?

Honestly, she got the kids. That's just a double penalty. First she takes what he wants, then he has to pay for her because she has what he wants. I bet he'd pay twice as much just so he could keep the kids instead of seeing them every other weekend.

Not really trying to say who wins, and who loses........ always seems in divorce, no one wins. I bet she would pay him to have him out of her life as well.

Was just originally trying to prove a point that, here..... divorce is far from equal on either end. Some could see it as woman always make out better, some could see it as men always "losing", by not getting primary custody of the children. (which it seems 99% of the time, the mother will get the children in a divorce)

My example has just been dragged out, pretty badly.


*Edit*

Alot of the equality fighting, is just the way its portrayed by the people. Some could see it as one gender getting more than equal treatment, while others could see it as equal....... while others could see the same gender being less than equal on the same subject.

[Darus Grey]

So here is the breakdown.

I misunderstood, she gets 2k/every 2 weeks. However to be fair, gonna break it down like it was 50k/year or 104k/year.

The house is hers for 1 year after the divorce was settled, once the year has passed her ex sells the house and keeps the money after fully paying off the mortage. She is living in the house, but does not have it......... he does tech.

They filed taxes jointly for years, except he didn't actually file anything with all his stocks and such like he told her he was doing (figured for a lawyer, he would know better). They both got hit really hard from the IRS, due to him not doing taxes.... so he owes the IRS a fuckton of money, and so does she. So that child support is not really 50k-104k/year due to error in both their ways but mostly him.

Once her children hit the age of 18, child support of course stops.

So.......... she gets say, 50k/year or 104k/year. Kicked out of her house, gets her kids 5.5 days out of the week.... and expensive IRS payments.

He still gets 300k-400k a year, the same irs payments........ and a year after divorce a 500-600k house.

So with the whole stereotype of woman get 50%+ from the husband, just doesn't always happen. In her instance...... it didn't.

Oh poor her, she gets tons of free money and has to pay some of it back to the IRS.

I FEEL SO BAD FOR HER, MY HEART CRIES.

"Fair" would be her getting $0, 1/2 of all ACTUAL joint assets(which includes debts), and them splitting the ACTUAL cost of child management.

In the meantime she gets to enjoy holding his children hostage in exchange for payoffs, that's how it actually works.

Edit: You've also proved jack shit, oh boy...a single anecdotal story where the woman ONLY gets 33%...

If you bothered to look at any facts you'd know divorce on average is highly in women's favor, which is why 2/3+ of divorces are initiated BY women.

[Yuri-G]

In the meantime she gets to enjoy holding his children hostage in exchange for payoffs, that's how it actually works.

this is maybe a better way of phrasing what I was trying to say. imagine if we had to pay Iran for the privilege of holding American civilians hostage - not for their return, not to ensure their safety, just for the privilege of depriving us of our loved ones.

fucking nuts.

[jmc]

In the meantime she gets to enjoy holding his children hostage in exchange for payoffs, that's how it actually works.

and what is it called, when one party doesn't want the kid...... is the mother still holding them hostage if the father doesn't want the kids after the divorce?

Would it be a court ordered punishment, if said father had to have the kids he doesn't want to bother with for a weekend?


GTFO with that hostage bullshit.

You want hostage situations, maybe bring up some facts of all the fathers or mothers not happy with the time arrangements for custody of kids....... so they take them to different countries where one party will never see their children again. Cause that ends up being more fair, than one party having children for a extra day or 2 over the other parent.

[Vail]

like numbers said:
http://www.youtube.com/user/manwomanmyth
is great but I'll suggest some more

TheHappyMisogynist
pinegrove33
ArgusEyes

another point not mentioned about the legal system, is how women are universally given shorter prison sentences for almost every minor or serious or violent crimes.

Justice is blind my ass.