Deus Ex: Human Revolution

[Yousir]

Lots of celebrating.

[Cephius]

So, general consensus on this game? Worth my $60? Never played the first Deus Ex, if that matters at all.

It's a fantastic game, IMO. If you've never played the original, it sort of reminds me like an RPG version of splinter cell. The game encourages being stealthy and gives you multiple ways to complete your objective. DEHR doesn't discourage barging in the front door the way splinter cell does, but I think the game is a lot more rewarding if you play it stealthy.

[Colenzo]

such a great game, im loving this shit

[Hank]

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because she didn't die

Fuck, I assumed it was scripted.

[Isiolia]

Finally finished it following a roundabout, no-kill kind of run. I was kinda disappointed with the apparent lack of...ambition, I guess, when it came to the ending(s). All of them accessible just for hitting a couple secondary objectives right near the end, and not (apparently) dependent on how you played the rest of the game at all. Plus the generic monologue supporting whichever one you pick, without seeing what actually results from it.

Unless my impression of that is wrong? I assume I pretty well saw what there is to see there, since the game gave me the trophy for seeing all the endings.

Other parts of the game I'd have to play through it again a different way to get an opinion on, see if things happen differently or other paths open with different actions...I just assume the endings are pretty well set (except maybe the exact monologue, since the ones given did mention trying not to harm others) due to the trophy.

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Fuck, I assumed it was scripted.

While I suspected it might not be a given, what I sort of wonder is if you need to be augmented/armed to fend off the attack. Or just willing to kill (maybe you can hack the robot?). I tried shooting a couple of 'em with tranquilizers, but moved on when it felt like I'd need something a lot more substantial to succeed in the short time you seemed to have.

[Hank]

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While I suspected it might not be a given, what I sort of wonder is if you need to be augmented/armed to fend off the attack. Or just willing to kill (maybe you can hack the robot?). I tried shooting a couple of 'em with tranquilizers, but moved on when it felt like I'd need something a lot more substantial to succeed in the short time you seemed to have.

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IGN has a video on how to do it without killing anyone, or so I've heard.

[warc]

tranq rifle and emp grenades work wonders. I said fuck it to the no kills run for my first time and just used a sniper rifle to pick everyone off. Oh also, to whoever said theres no ADS..... middle click the mouse button for aiming down sights. I went like 75% of the game without knowing that until I finally picked up a sniper rifle. It helps to check out the control options lol

[Zetanio]

I'm going rambo. I just upgraded the piss out my weapons and am blowing everyone apart.

[The Blackrose]

Finally finished it following a roundabout, no-kill kind of run. I was kinda disappointed with the apparent lack of...ambition, I guess, when it came to the ending(s). All of them accessible just for hitting a couple secondary objectives right near the end, and not (apparently) dependent on how you played the rest of the game at all. Plus the generic monologue supporting whichever one you pick, without seeing what actually results from it.

Unless my impression of that is wrong? I assume I pretty well saw what there is to see there, since the game gave me the trophy for seeing all the endings.

Other parts of the game I'd have to play through it again a different way to get an opinion on, see if things happen differently or other paths open with different actions...I just assume the endings are pretty well set (except maybe the exact monologue, since the ones given did mention trying not to harm others) due to the trophy.

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Did you watch all the way through the credits to unlock The D Project? Because it's leads into the original Deus Ex.

I understand why the developers did the endings the way they did - they tried to keep the original feel of the endings while kept them as ambiguous as possible because it has to lead into the first game. And just like they did for Invisible War, they can pick from each of the different endings. You expose the Illuminati? Gives room for Bob Page to kickstart Majestic 12, Project D and nanoaugmentation. Expose the biochip? People get suspicious of mechanical augmentations, leading to the downfall of Sarif Industries and other mech-aug corporations. Blow up Panchea? I think that was the most vague ending, because you have no idea where it can go from there.

[Isiolia]

Entering spoiler territory for a reason:

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Did you watch all the way through the credits to unlock The D Project? Because it's leads into the original Deus Ex.

I understand why the developers did the endings the way they did - they tried to keep the original feel of the endings while kept them as ambiguous as possible because it has to lead into the first game. And just like they did for Invisible War, they can pick from each of the different endings. You expose the Illuminati? Gives room for Bob Page to kickstart Majestic 12, Project D and nanoaugmentation. Expose the biochip? People get suspicious of mechanical augmentations, leading to the downfall of Sarif Industries and other mech-aug corporations. Blow up Panchea? I think that was the most vague ending, because you have no idea where it can go from there.

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Not originally, since I was figuring on watching all the endings and the credits have that Esc/Skip button that I figured would skip me to any post-credits stuff (since you can play the credits from the title). Apparently not. Still, went watched it for two of them after you mentioned it and it seems to be the same for all. Doesn't really add -too- much, but it's a nice touch.

I'd be more inclined to think that Eidos didn't want to completely tie things directly together just yet, given that the games are separated by 25 years. They could set quite a number of sequels in the years between, and this approach leaves a lot of flexibility to do so. Can't blame 'em for that...but I still think they had a little room to show character reactions or something.

That said, the bigger angle on that to me was the lack of actual role play in determining the end. Four buttons (provided you did the two secondary objectives), pick one. Granted, the original game was much the same, but I was hoping they'd try to improve on that. Or, like I mentioned, I could easily be missing something and a different style of play, different conversation results earlier, etc would deny you access to some of them.

[Ghostsix.Midgard]

I'm going rambo. I just upgraded the piss out my weapons and am blowing everyone apart.

haha I started a new game for this purpose and I'm not having as much fun as sneaking around, sadly. The AI aim is ridiculous..
I never asked for this

[Zetanio]

Upgrade your stealth. Pop out, kill/wound one then hit stealth and flank. I played it similar to Crysis 2. Lots of baiting and hard angle shots.

[Uzor]

Fully upgraded stealth with fully upgraded energy and a lot of energy bars is seriously overpowered, lol. You don't need to hide, can run through an entire room in under a second with the increased sprint time and the no-sound-from-sprinting ability. Makes it way too easy to avoid enemies.

Makes Takedowns so easy. With Stealth augmentation it's impossible to NOT get Ghost and Smooth Operator exp bonuses... Hell, with Stealth upgrade and a bunch of Snack bars you can run through an entire area in stealth and just knock everyone out without ever dropping out of Stealth and STILL get the Ghost bonus. It makes the game boringly easy.

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by Picus I had 20 1 energy snack bars, 20 2 energy snack bars and 2 3 energy snack bars. Made the area laughably easy

I love the game so far, my only regret is that I didn't play it on Hard. It's way too easy on Medium; I've more ammo then I know what to do with- especially since I don't even use it on anything but bosses. I chose to go with Tranquil gun at the start, but it's rather pointless once enemies are armored and immune to it. Next playthrough I'm going offensive weapons and stealth I think; offensive weapons to kill bosses easier, as those are the only things I have a problem with since I went hacking/stealth. I have that achievement now though, so no reason to hack next playthrough.

[avelle]

So ran into a side quest at The Hive and ...

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came across a part of the quest where I had to hack a console that was in plain sight of one of the bouncers. Couldn't complete the hack before he finished warning me to piss off. After loading the game I decided to put that particular bouncer in a choke hold and see if I could drag him away before any other guards noticed. That didn't work and after several attempts of trying to figure out how to finish this particular part of the quest, this was the result:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/57...9F421E337B4D1/

I bet they let me hack the fucking console next time! Anyone else run into this issue? What were other solutions people used?

[Qalbert]

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if you have invisibility and enough cells you can hack it real fast. alternatively, knock out the bouncer and hide somewhere (behind the bar usually works) until no longer alarmed

[avelle]

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if you have invisibility and enough cells you can hack it real fast. alternatively, knock out the bouncer and hide somewhere (behind the bar usually works) until no longer alarmed

Those harvester guys had it coming anyways. :3

[Colenzo]

Fucking just beat this sexy game, GOOD TIMES! I was pretty pleased by the length and girth of this game.

[Qalbert]

[Karbuncle]

I laughed entirely too hard

[Uzor]

So ran into a side quest at The Hive and ...

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came across a part of the quest where I had to hack a console that was in plain sight of one of the bouncers. Couldn't complete the hack before he finished warning me to piss off. After loading the game I decided to put that particular bouncer in a choke hold and see if I could drag him away before any other guards noticed. That didn't work and after several attempts of trying to figure out how to finish this particular part of the quest, this was the result:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/57...9F421E337B4D1/

I bet they let me hack the fucking console next time! Anyone else run into this issue? What were other solutions people used?

I didn't run in to that problem; I went around and opened it from behind.

And HOLY FUCK at that video. I so did not expect that. Wow, I laughed way more than I should have.