Botting Drama in 2010?!

[Nightfyre]

If Melon's is freely distributed, I will be providing unlimited Arenz logins on Leviathan, Diabolos, and Ragnarok.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jj9C-44i7L...0/PDVD_021.BMP

[Luk]

WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW Seriously talking about mules, and that we buy accounts. I myself have 3 accounts one that is a Relic Drk, and last I checked I didnt pay a dime for any of them my GF has the same amount of accounts, and she hasnt paid a dime for any of them. Our friends give us accounts when they quit or stop playing the game for us to use as we see fit. As for Rev seriously complaining about us having 18 people there, and 28 botting. Dont you have the same amount, but you just have 28 people there kinda evens out. In the end the two LS's arent comparable in the least. Please dont come complaining or trying to be big dick over a couple claims Wow 2Fafnirs, and a KB this week check out ourwebsite we have done alot more during the course of the week then camp Free NQ Turtles, and Behemoths?

[GavinBandura]

God, bragging about some HNM claims was fun in what, 2004/2005? Who cares how much you claim and how you have relic mules and take 28 characters to claim. You're wasting your time camping silly kings to be honest.

[bechyni]

Why the fuck is this thread still going?

[Luk]

I camp cause I dont need shit really minus more relics, and I make gil off camping 10mil per 200 Points aint bad at all. So there is incentive.

[Fievel]

Why the fuck is this thread still going?

Because this shit is serious business

[Thorny]

I camp cause I dont need shit really minus more relics, and I make gil off camping 10mil per 200 Points aint bad at all. So there is incentive.

if an hour is a point like most systems you're making 50k/hr, almost on par with farming tree cuttings in boyahda

[Fievel]

Yeah that's pretty awful lol, I know other LS's that are like 5mil for 25points ;x

[Thorny]

200k/hr still sucks

[Renzy]

How can you make a comparison like that when you have no idea of what systems different linkshell's use

[Fievel]

If an hour is a point like most systems you're making 50k/hr, almost on par with farming tree cuttings in boyahda

If

[bechyni]

Farming =/= afking until your bot claims it

[Fievel]

Farming =/= afking until your bot claims it

qft

btw your sig is mesmerizing

[Budonez]

Why the fuck is this thread still going?

This. You guys should feel bad, like seriously.

[Narol]

btw your sig is mesmerizing

I'm amused by how the bird's all "sup?" at the end.

Suffice to say I would not be happy if a bird was shuffling around in my shirt.

[Tharen]

The shells that still camp kings with almost two full alliances, why don't you have that other alliance go farm something else and possibly double your loot? I see these ls sites that have 30+ people at a king camp, shit is crazy.

[Fievel]

The shells that still camp kings with almost two full alliances, why don't you have that other alliance go farm something else and possibly double your loot? I see these ls sites that have 30+ people at a king camp, shit is crazy.

Most of em are probably mules

[AoshiZ]

On that site the Melon provider states the following:

"No amount of obfustication or executable compression can stop the flaws in your code being revealed and protocol emulated."

This is a bold statement and is very intriguing. I would say it would be hard to hack an application that runs its command execution from an interpreted file that is encrypted and only decrypted line by line. Hacking its memory space would be overly difficult with the applications memory not being exposed except line by line. Decompilation from .net reflector or something would be useless on the encrypted file. Decompiling the basic launcher would gain access to basic process that is already being elaborated right now. And the launcher could connect to a server that provides the key encrypted with an asymmetric key pair that is unique to each machine that the product is distributed to. That key could be bound to the physical machine via serial key methods similar to microsoft's activation implementation. Each consecutive line in the interpreted file can be encrypted with intructions from the previous line and a randomized key.

Sure you could read its memory space and expose the initial key. It would be tedious to follow the decryption process of each line to expose the core process of the application. Would probably take you longer to hack this then the application would be of value. Because the key is unique to each machine, wouldn't that be difficult to freely distribute even if you managed to emulate the communication for one machine because the asymmetric server side key used to encrypt the initial unlock is never exposed on the client.

Also, emulating a middleman attack on a TLS (Transport Level Security) communication protocol sounds pretty rough.

Not saying this is done in the Arenz application but I personally would have a difficult time hacking the above implementation. If the melons author or someone else could show a feasible circumvention, I would be very impressed.

[Themutznutz]

I just finished my university semester and I work 5 days a week, so tell me how that puts me on the dole lol.

Well, we know how hard it is for the mentally retarded to find work these days so just kinda guessed......sorry

My LS has never wiped to any Einherjar, so I'd love to hear where that came from (unless you count timing out on a tier 3 as wiping).

Might wanna inform your members of this fact, as they seem to be telling us different information. Even tonight, after we beat Odin, one of your ex-members was telling us about how you guys struggle with even T1's because you cannot bot them. Hell, your LS was sending us /tells saying congratulations after our win, wishing they could get to fight Odin too.

And if you think i rant about missing claims on something as trivial as Fafnir once a week, and the occasional KB then you are highly mistaken.

Well, come on. Be honest. Its a little more than 1 Faf a week now isn't it. KB, Nid, several Faf and Behe etc. And we know just how pissed you were when we got 2 Ridill drops in one week lol. You even went about trying to drag Faf out of our time so you did not have to risk losing another one to us!
Although I have noticed a few "Successes" posted on your LS website on the days we claim lol. You REALLY don't like admitting failure do you Renzy.
And boy do you rant! In /say you give it both barrels lol. And the /tells we get from your members copy/pasting your rants are fricking hilarious.

And, just to clarify something. The last Nidhog pop, Revolution had 23 members in DA. Inferus had 42. On pop, we had 18 casters, Inferus had 40 (that we could verify from chat log). Yes, we will struggle against that force no matter how good we or the bot are.

Revolution LS does a lot more than just Ground Kings HNM scene, which we do for Black Belt items, Abjurations, and the few good items still available from them. We also do Einherjar, Dynamis, ZNM, VNM, Sky, Sea, Limbus, KS99 etc. I doubt Renzy would know what half of that was without first looking it up on Wikipedia.....



Now, if Renzy has taken his pills and gone to bed, we can get back on topic.....

Free Wizbot? BASTARD! I bloody paid for mine!
As for the others? Well, giving any bot away for free is going to destroy the value for the creators of all bots. A bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
And it will likely be a return to the old RMT days with bots at every NM camp, VE, Mee Deggi etc.........which will suck lol coz I still not got those damn MNK hands to drop >.<

[Darkmagi]

lulz. Tried his cracked wizbot on a mule and it fucked up my FPS. Tried to restart but it's still screwed up. Happen to anyone else? If so anyone know a fix?