Mexican teenager killed by US border official

[Day]

didn't realize you got silently rocked in spam, thought you didn't read there or something, my bad bro, just remember who quoted who first in this thread so you can continue to prove my point broseph.

[Correction]

http://i49.tinypic.com/301d7ac.jpg

Be less boring and predictable.

That's all I ask of most. My standards for you are even lower.

[Seanr]

In a perfect world, the murdering of stupid people would be so commonplace that it would no longer be newsworthy.

tis why i don't watch/read too much news. It's all reruns anyway.

[Day]

Be less boring and predictable.

That's all I ask of most. My standards for you are even lower.

lol

[Beckwin]

The top four big cities in America with the lowest rates of violent crime are all in border states: San Diego, Phoenix, El Paso and Austin, according to a new FBI report. And an in-house Customs and Border Protection report shows that Border Patrol agents face far less danger than street cops in most U.S. cities.

The Customs and Border Protection study, obtained with a Freedom of Information Act request, shows 3 percent of Border Patrol agents and officers were assaulted last year, mostly when assailants threw rocks at them. That compares with 11 percent of police officers and sheriff's deputies assaulted during the same period, usually with guns or knives.

quoting this again because it ought to pretty much end all discussion.

[Rhinox]

quoting this again because it ought to pretty much end all discussion.

Wonder how many of the deputies and Police officers executed the assailants.

[Beckwin]

The interesting thing is how varied the reactions are between (tenuously) immigration related scenarios and citizen-police scenarios.

A lot of the recent legislative outbursts from AZ stem from border related homicides committed by Mexicans (typically, drug runners or coyotes. not kids playing with rocks by a bridge or parched peasants trekking through the desert). A rancher in southern AZ was killed by cartel thugs, and the reaction was an "immigration" bill that does nothing except create de facto profiling.

Meanwhile, when a cop or citizen is the victim of a homicide committed by an average citizen, there doesn't seem to be the same kind of reaction- black people or white people or asian people killing someone doesn't result in new profiling laws or tough-talking and exaggerated nationalist propaganda. Sometimes you'll get some support for tighter gun restrictions, maybe. Deaths in either case are absolutely tragic, yet the reactions are so different.

Similarly, in cases of police using excessive force, there tends to be more sympathy when it's an average citizen, and as we're seeing here, significantly less when it happens to be border related (with the exception of one poster). Although it must be noted that some armchair authoritarians/tough talkers are consistent.

[Beckwin]

A nice commentary from a Texas journalist that really highlights the absurdity and inhumanity of reaction to this story:

http://www.texasobserver.org/lalinea...mments-section

Some days writing about our southern border really gets me down. Not because I have to read about everything that’s happening out there (at least I try to). The problem is the comments on the stories. I always tell myself I won’t read them, yet I always do … and this is where my heart just sinks. What in the hell is wrong with people? This was my thought last night (well, at least one of the thoughts that can be printed) as I read an Associated Press story about the 15-year old boy from Juarez shot and killed Monday under an international bridge by a Border Patrol agent. The AP story had 2,197 comments last night almost all of them sick, hateful, racist and downright disturbing. Here’s the very first comment from a guy called Jonah:
"Hey, Border Patrol. Keep up the good work. You're doing America a great service by keeping these@#$%roaches out of this Once-great nation. This should also be added to immigration reform: shoot illegals first then ask questions later. Simple and plain."

I always wonder what these people are like in their day-to-day lives? In his spare time Jonah likes to wear a pointy white pillowcase on his head (with large eye holes mind you, so he can see his computer screen) and refer to human beings online as “cockroaches that should be killed.” But hey, he’s a great dad and coaches Little League on the weekend.

Here’s another one:
"No sympathy for a 14 year old who acts like an adult criminal viciously assaulting American law enforcement. This is the beginning of the mexican crime spilling into OUR country. This violent gang member, drug dealing, B A S T A R D deserved to die."



The second commenter like most of the commenters I suspect, didn’t even read the story. This is especially disheartening for journalists. (Not only did they not read the story, now they are going to leave some poisonous comment that has nothing to do with your story.) At least I hope that’s the case, otherwise this person is just delusional. The kid allegedly threw rocks at the Border Patrol officer. And we won’t even be sure he threw rocks until the FBI concludes its investigation. (if he did, does that offense deserve death?) Plus, he was shot and killed on Mexican soil. I didn’t see any reference in the article to the boy being a drug dealer, a violent gang member or a bastard for that matter. Plus, the commenter is saying that a 15-year-old boy deserved to die?!


The immigration stories are the worst. Nothing makes these online bigots more rabid and xenophobic than the notion of “illegal immigrants.” In their eyes, there is no punishment severe enough for “the illegals.” Forget BP, forget Goldman Sachs and our corrupted financial market – all of it is the illegals fault. “WHAT PART OF ‘ILLEGAL’ DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?” They like to write in their hate-filled comments. (Do they not understand that block letters mean they are YELLING at everyone, or is their eyesight just bad?)


I think the turning point for me was last summer when we had the flu outbreak that originated in Mexico. A commenter in a Houston Chronicle story said he hoped that “the flu killed all of the Mexican children.”
The comment just floored me. How can people so disassociate themselves from humanity that they can advocate for the deaths of children, and other commenters encourage this kind of hate-filled diatribe online?


I’m an advocate for free speech. But these hate-filled comments truly make me want to take a rain check on humanity. I was raised to believe that America was a country that encouraged tolerance and racial inclusion. Something like what happened in Germany could never happen here. I tend to think that bloggers over-step the line when they refer to Nazi Germany. So I never do. But in this case—when people are advocating for the deaths of an entire nationality and their children—I don’t think the analogy is off base.


Intolerance, ignorance and racism are alive and well in the good ‘ol USA, folks. If you don’t believe me, just read the comments section.

[eunhye]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...0_at_afgh.html

You fuckers just like talking shit about the US because it's the "cool thing to do" but when a story like this happens? You show no sympathy or for that matter don't give a damn. Just shows you how biased your hearts are truly.

[Kuya]

Did you just bring up the taliban in a thread about a mexican kid getting shot in the US/Mexico border?

[guartz]

was she hot?

[tyven]

Wonder how many of the deputies and Police officers executed the assailants.

rofl execution

[Rhinox]

rofl execution

Roflmao I no rite lmfao

Its not like shooting a kid for thinking he threw a rock at you wasnt totally justified. I mean look he was surrounded he couldnt simply you know move out of the way. He had a less then a minute to decide to not take cover and wait for backup that arrived minutes later.


He had no choice but to go into diehard mode and kill a teenager who he thought was throwing rocks at him.

He was just keeping it real son.

[euph]

Sounds like this mexican.....



Nearly crossed the line.

[Rhinox]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...0_at_afgh.html

You fuckers just like talking shit about the US because it's the "cool thing to do" but when a story like this happens? You show no sympathy or for that matter don't give a damn. Just shows you how biased your hearts are truly.

Who's the bleeding hearts now?

Shit is rough but we're not the goddamned world police

[Rhinox]

Sounds like this mexican.....



Nearly crossed the line.

Few pages too late bud.

[Xno Kappa]

I lol'd.

[Beckwin]

hoooo boy, video released:



Any defense for this now, you pussy ass authoritarian internet-tough guy dipshits? The kids were not in America, and they were across the damn river, looking to be 100 or so feet away.

[Xno Kappa]

"Welcome to the conversation?"

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showp...&postcount=166

[Beckwin]

whoops, missed that.

so any reason why there's still a discussion then? holy shit guys