the beginning of the BigXII-2

[Kirin]

You wouldn't take a job with better pay?

10k/year jumping to 50/60k obviously. But this is not that situation.

If im not happy, content, and able to provide everything my family would ever need and then some on 3 mil/year...then I would question being able to do so on 6 mil/year on top of leaving a area/city/state that I grew up in and a college campus that absolutely adores me.

[FNH]

10k/year jumping to 50/60k obviously. But this is not that situation.

If im not happy, content, and able to provide everything my family would ever need and then some on 3 mil/year...then I would question being able to do so on 6 mil/year on top of leaving a area/city/state that I grew up in and a college campus that absolutely adores me.

people are greedy.

[Mizango]

So he doesn't win a lot then?

HAHAHA

[Kirin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldt4N...layer_embedded

Izzo is the exact opposite definition of greedy. Joe Pa only makes what...400k/year? Im sure other schools have offered him 3 or 4 mil to coach some point in his career. He's still at PSU.

MSU will pay him 6mil/year if he asks. They'll pay him 8, 10, 12. The Big 10 isnt short of football money to help the boosters out in paying his salary. I don't think money is the issue here at all for Izzo.

While I still seriously doubt he's going anywhere, Izzo may be looking at this as his "best NBA option" if he does want to make the jump. It sounds like the Cavs want a coach tomorrow, and Izzo just does not operate like that. But that doesn't mean the man (who spends obscene amounts of time breaking down film for games) isn't gonna learn everything he can about what job they're offering him.

[noblemountain]

So how long before we have Fla State, Miami, Va Tech, and Ga Tech in the SEC? I hope we at least keep it "southeastern" and not be the Pacific 10 conference with a ton of midwest teams.

[Bregor]

So how long before we have Fla State, Miami, Va Tech, and Ga Tech in the SEC? I hope we at least keep it "southeastern" and not be the Pacific 10 conference with a ton of midwest teams.

Virginia Tech's a bit of a stretch if you ask me, but yeah I'd like to see them in before OU.

[noblemountain]

Virginia Tech's a bit of a stretch if you ask me, but yeah I'd like to see them in before OU.

Orangebloods.com is reporting that OU and Texas A&M are wanting in the SEC. This should be an interesting next couple of weeks.

[Ishido]

So how long before we have Fla State, Miami, Va Tech, and Ga Tech in the SEC? I hope we at least keep it "southeastern" and not be the Pacific 10 conference with a ton of midwest teams.

To be fair, none of the colleges reportedly going to the Pac 10 are "midwest." Though they should rename it. The FAC - Fucking Awesome Conference.

[Kirin]

I dont think the SEC is gonna add any teams. Big 10 can jump to 16 and Pac-10 to 20 teams, and the SEC still won't give a shit.

Though if the ACC ever does break, Clemson, Miami, FSU, and VT are the most likely candidates. Ga Tech wont rejoin, because I think UGA can right out veto them...and they left the SEC way back when on their own accord.

[noblemountain]

I dont think the SEC is gonna add any teams. Big 10 can jump to 16 and Pac-10 to 20 teams, and the SEC still won't give a shit.

Though if the ACC ever does break, Clemson, Miami, FSU, and VT are the most likely candidates. Ga Tech wont rejoin, because I think UGA can right out veto them...and they left the SEC way back when on their own accord.

There is no way in hell they will let the pac 10 and big ten get sixteen teams and not upgrade. That would be dumb. The commish has said they will take the "necessary course of action" should the other leagues jump to 16. I hadn't thought about Clemson, although I think S. Carolina might have something to say about that. In that same regard, North Carolina isn't a bad selection. Football is meh, but their basketball program is nice.

I thought UGA said something publicly when this all started about welcoming GaTech back into the SEC? Maybe I misread that or hell, maybe I made it up completely but I could have sworn that I read that.

[Bregor]

In that same regard, North Carolina isn't a bad selection. Football is meh, but their basketball program is nice.

Would be very, very surprised if UNC or Duke ever left the ACC, unless the entire conference collapses. I know basketball has kind of been an afterthought in this realignment scheme, but the SEC just doesn't hold any appeal for a basketball powerhouse. If all hell breaks loose, I could see them both in the Big East with UConn, G'town, 'Cuse, etc. making it a huge basketball draw. But they already have 16 schools with basketball programs, adding any more would just be chaos.

[noblemountain]

Would be very, very surprised if UNC or Duke ever left the ACC, unless the entire conference collapses. I know basketball has kind of been an afterthought in this realignment scheme, but the SEC just doesn't hold any appeal for a basketball powerhouse. If all hell breaks loose, I could see them both in the Big East with UConn, G'town, 'Cuse, etc. making it a huge basketball draw. But they already have 16 schools with basketball programs, adding any more would just be chaos.

All the signs point to the ACC being fine, but losing a few schools and raiding the Big East to get them back, plus maybe a few extra. Apparently Gene Stallings has a lot to do with Texas A&M wanting to come to the SEC, didn't know he was involved in their program honestly. I am also a little bit surprised that Pitt isn't being pushed into the Big Ten discussion by Penn State. They have wanted to open up that rivalry again for a long time. They don't fit as a Big Ten school, but hell, neither do most of the other teams that are being talked about.

If the Big East does go down...will be interesting to see what happens with Notre Dame. No conference is going to take all their sports except football again, and their other sports need a conference. I would think they would join the Big Ten if that did happen.

[Stiker]

If the Big East does go down...will be interesting to see what happens with Notre Dame. No conference is going to take all their sports except football again, and their other sports need a conference. I would think they would join the Big Ten if that did happen.

That's pretty much the only way you'll see ND move into a conference. Well either that or conferences becoming powerful enough to dissolve the BCS.

[Diamicles]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5276064

Boise St to the Mountain West. MWC preparing to take a few more teams to round its numbers?

[Gregorio]

Joe Schad reporting that Boise to leave WAC and join the MWC. Looks like Boise is counting on the Big 12 falling apart and the MWC absorbing some of their teams so they can have a legit shot at some National Championship Games.

EDIT: CURSES, beaten!

[Diamicles]

Joe Schad reporting that Boise to leave WAC and join the MWC. Looks like Boise is counting on the Big 12 falling apart and the MWC absorbing some of their teams so they can have a legit shot at some National Championship Games.

EDIT: CURSES, beaten!

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

[Arnwulf]

I saw this stat on TV contracts for conferences. I assume it means all sports combined. I figured the Big Ten and SEC would be on top, but not by such a large margin.

Big Ten $242 million
SEC $205 million
Big 12 $78 million
ACC $67 million
Pacific-10 $58 million
Big East $33 million

Also don't forget that is only the Big Ten schools' revenue from TV contracts. Lost in all of this TV revenue for sports is the fact that the Big Ten also has the CIC, which makes the member Universities boatloads of money from research grants and the like.

http://www.cic.net/Home.aspx

[Ishido]

Also don't forget that is only the Big Ten schools' revenue from TV contracts. Lost in all of this TV revenue for sports is the fact that the Big Ten also has the CIC, which makes the member Universities boatloads of money from research grants and the like.

http://www.cic.net/Home.aspx

Pretty sure those revenue numbers are sports-related on purpose, as research grants generally go toward, you know, research.

[Arnwulf]

Doesn't matter though, still lots and lots of additional money that they won't have to use their endowments for. Or waste the manpower on to find and apply for the grants themselves, trust me when I say that this is a BIG deal, almost bigger than the sports side of things.

Just to emphasize the impact of being in the CIC:

Further, the super-conference model also points to gargantuan revenue sharing that even mighty Notre Dame can't turn down. As Corn Nation points out, the Big Ten's Committee on Institutional Cooperation receives 12% of federal research funds, a number that will only increase as the Conference adds additional research based schools. With NotreDame's recent re-dedication to research and graduate education, this is a pool of money that the school would be foolish to turn down because its football team wants an independent schedule. At a certain point, athletics don't matter in this equation, it's the research money that does. A slice of that research money pie may very well dwarf whatever payout a cable or network television contract provides. And just so we're clear, the CIC received $3.5 Billion in federal funding in 2006-2007.

[Kirin]

There is no way in hell they will let the pac 10 and big ten get sixteen teams and not upgrade. That would be dumb. The commish has said they will take the "necessary course of action" should the other leagues jump to 16.

Why would the SEC need to expand at all? The SEC's format and success is prolly party why all this conference expansion started in the first place.

From a football standpoint, the SEC is 99% of the time (as of right now and forseeable future) going to send 2 teams to the BCS, one of them to the title game. A 16 team Pac-10 can at best only do the same, but will almost always be competing with the Big 10 and ACC for that 2nd title spot. The SEC will have only 12 schools to split money amongst while the Pac-10 will have 16.

No reason for the SEC to expand when they'll be just as successful with everyone else expanding as they are right now. No reason to dilute our own schedule by not playing half the opposing division just to add 2-4 teams.