New Gaming Laptop

[Skie]

lmao Now GF is saying i can build her one if i get help from a guy i work with. I was looking at this build: Am i missing anything? I know i will need a fan if i intend to overclock the processor (which i do). Mainly what i want to know is if something is better, if over paying for one of the following ext. If im missing any Vidal parts like that foil or w/e it is for the processor. Also if possible check to see if they are all compatible like the memory/motherboard, if i do get to build it this will be my first build and im not quite sure how to tell.

Case $159.99:

Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129043

Mother Board $249.99:

ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131365

Processor $298.99:

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115225


Hard Drive $:104.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD10000LSRTL 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136337

Video Card $169.99:

Will Upgrade to 2 later

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-858-_-Product

RAM: $174.99:

Patriot Extreme Performance Gaming Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PGS36G1333ELK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220398


Disk Drive $19.99:

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118039

OS $99.99:

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-752-_-Product

Power Supply $89.99:

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

+ a good monitor/keyboard/speakers

[SaviorSelf]

You need a power supply.

[Skie]

added thank you. not that its important or anything.

[Boyiee]

This is for your girlfriend? You are planning to OC it? Have you ever OC'd before? Foil on the processor?

[SaviorSelf]

Without the PSU, you'll have some very expensive paper weights.

Snarky and indecisive, how cute.

All your stuff will work together. Good on the other hand...eh.

[Skie]

Can you suggest something with a i7, 1tb drive that's good for a bigginer

[Jojimbo]

You also have 32-bit OS in there, you should get 64-bit with that much RAM

[Skie]

Oh didn't even notice. Also what is bad about the parts and why is it bad I wanna learn this right not just throw shit together

[Boyiee]

Just go to ibuypower and pick out the highest end parts and have them ship it to you (like mentioned). Get it watercooled with a temp gauge on the front too. And lots of LED's.

Everyone reading this thread from start to finish will probably agree, it's the best option for your "situation".

[Skie]

Look if you don't wanna offer advice then that's fine but plz cut the crap

[Boyiee]

You've been given advice over and over and over again and have ignored it, so why don't you cut the crap? It's the absolute best advice that you've been given.

[Greatguardian]

I think you're completely misunderstanding a few things about building your actual computer. First off, you don't have to actually install your BIOS at all. Your motherboard will always come with a flashed BIOS. BIOS itself stands for "Basic Input and Output Software", so you kinda... can't do anything, at all, unless one is installed. Now, depending on your Hardware Revision (think First Edition / Second edition, etc with publishers and books), your BIOS may not be the most recent one released for your motherboard. Generally, this is fine. If you do not have any issues with it, do not attempt flashing/updating the BIOS as a beginner.

The hardest part of building a machine is getting over the fact that doing something "stupid" will lose you a nice chunk of money. Unfortunately, buying a pre-built machine is 110% guaranteed to lose you a nice chunk of money unless you buy a cheap-ass machine and ghetto-rig some of the parts with a couple upgrades to make it work like I used to do <_<.

Basically, you need to look out for a few things when you're building. First and foremost, do your parts fit together?

If you have a full ATX, or Extended ATX motherboard, you will need a Full Tower case.

Ensure that your Motherboard chipset and Processor match one another. For example: Phenom II Motherboard and Intel i7 = Bad. LGA 1366 Motherboard and Intel i7 920+ = Good.

Make sure you have enough Power for all of your hard drives, graphics cards, and your processor. If you're going to be running an i7 system with a decent graphics card, I'd recommend 600W minimum. Also make sure you get a good brand when you buy your PSU. I'd recommend Corsair. Offbrands really aren't worth the money, and can put out a lot less power than is advertised.

Make sure your RAM is the right type. Some guy totally fried his computer in an earlier thread because he tried shoving DDR3 RAM into a DDR2 motherboard. Check the statistics for your motherboard to make sure that your RAM type and speed match it. Ie: If your motherboard accepts DDR3 RAM 1066/1333/1600, and you have DDR3 1600 RAM, you are golden.

Ensure that you have the proper connections and cables for things. Ie: If your hard drive is Serial ATA (aka SATA), your motherboard needs to have SATA ports. This is not new technology though so it's really not a huge concern. However, if you buy a hard drive which is designed for SATA 6.0Gb/s and only have SATA 3.0Gb/s ports, you'll be losing out on speed. Also ensure that your Graphics card has output which corresponds to your Monitor, and you have the proper cables to connect the two (DO NOT buy these retail. Get your cables at www.monoprice.com or www.cablesforless.com).

Aside from this, you only need to make sure of a couple things when you're putting it all together. First off, do not allow your motherboard to be physically touching your case when you install it. This will cause a short circuit and you could potentially damage it. Instead, most cases are shipped with Risers which you twist into the holes in the case before you place the motherboard on top of them and subsequently screw the motherboard in.

Secondly, make sure all of the connections are secure and fit properly. Do NOT EVER attempt to try forcing something which does not seem to fit right. If it doesn't fit, double check, and triple check that you're trying to plug the right thing in. If everything appears to check out, stay calm, take pictures and ask BG Tech to see if you've missed anything. Installing some parts can occasionally take a bit of force, but you should never be trying to give your motherboard CPR or taking ANY sort of power tools/screwdrivers where they aren't supposed to be.

This board has always been extremely helpful and polite when I needed assistance, and I'm sure if you encounter any problems when attempting to build a machine then they can take a look at them if you ask nicely. Ignoring people's advice isn't really a good idea, though. It rubs people the wrong way, especially since they're going out of their way to go out and do research for you on these things. Please keep that in mind.

Good luck!

[Skie]

Sorry for ignoring any advise, the gf is really in control of the matter. And sry for bad typing on my droid atm. Basicly my gf is geting a new computer. Its her computer. She is paying for it. All decisioons on to build, buyy, ext are hers. Im just providing insight threw these forums. I perfer to build her one but I've never done a full build just upgrades and stuff. I want to build her one personally but ultimally the decision is hers, and she doesn't want me starting on a 2K machine. Atm she has agreed to let me build her one. I would like to drop all that has been said about everything else and go with that. If she changes her mind again then back to square one. Now down to business. I'm not being impulsive this time I want a solid machine for her and I would like anyone willing to help me. Thanks.

For some background.

She wants it to have leds and look cool not plain and borring, its going to be in the middle of the living room so don't want A ugly ass thing. It doesn't have to work as a stroble light, she just doesn't want a boring case.

Its going to be for gaming/internet mainly ffxi, ffiv and graphics are a hugr thing with both of us

Limit is 2k if it will make huge diff can go a little over but perfer not, arround 1.5K range is good

I posted the compentss I was looking at earler. Please tell me what I have choosen porrly on and why. I want to learn not just be told. One person said it would work but probly not well, why and what do I need to change?

[Greatguardian]

I see nothing wrong for a mid-range build in what you posted earlier. However, you're going to need to keep a couple of things in mind if you want to use that build. First off, you do not have access to any SATA 6.0Gb/s or USB 3.0 ports on that Motherboard. For casual gaming and the like, that's probably not going to be an issue at all. Just keep that in mind if you're looking to keep this "state of the art" for 5+ years down the road. Personally, I think you could be overpaying a bit on the motherboard because of this. Generally, something like that can be found for no more than $200, with much more powerful motherboard options starting around $300.

The second thing you may want to look at is your GPU. A Radeon HD5770 is a great consumer card, I run one myself. However, if your girlfriend is primarily concerned with flashy lights and pretty graphics (dont' spend 2 grand on that, maaaan...), a 5770 may not run everything at max settings on very high resolutions on its own. If you're getting 2, however, you should be okay and should be able to run dual monitors on a system like that.

As previously mentioned, do not buy a 32-bit OS for that system. 32-bit OS's cap you at just under 4GB total system RAM, that's RAM + Video card RAM, so you'd get supremely shafted out of your hardware. Also, there is absolutely no performance requirement difference between the different editions of Windows 7, so you may as well get all the features with Win7 Ultimate or at least Professional. This is a viable way to get Win7 free if you're into the whole torrenting deal.

You are also missing a Heat Sink / Thermal Alternative. If you plan to overclock that processor at all (Not hard at all with that particular processor. I believe that's one of the models with unlocked multipliers) you are going to want third party cooling. The stock i7-930 heat sink is shit, as I recently discovered myself resulting in an earlier thread.

On a more personal note, I would never spend 2 grand on shiny LEDs and pretty graphics for a non-enthusiast. I already give my girl constant shit over her spending $1500 on a macbook pro. Tell her to build a nice, functional mid-range gaming PC for under 1 grand and spend the other grand taking you out on a cruise man.

[Skie]

Lmao were going on a 5 day cruise to the bahamas on aug 23. But anyway I would love to keep it state of the art. I know absolutly nothing about motherboards though. I just choose somethiing that I thought was i7 compatable and hoped for futher input. Ill look for a usb 3.0 when I get home. Also I fully intend to go with a 64 bit. Although how big of a pain is it to install the torrent on a clean install? I was just going to buy for ease but I I can upgrade the mother board and drop legit version ill gladly do so. With the gpu I do intend to use 2 at one point but if you can offer a more powerfiull alternative ill gladly consider it. I do intend to over clock but want sure what kind of heat sinc to look for all I could find were either noise or rated bad.

Thanks for help

[Greatguardian]

Haha, okay, already getting a cruise. Damn. Well, you're right that motherboard is compatible with an i7. You're basically just going to want to make sure you have something which is LGA1366 slot (i7), and runs your speed RAM (DDR3 1333). I recently bought a GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R off Newegg on a Memorial Day combo deal and I absolutely love it. Motherboard is easily worth 300 on its own, and I got it and 6GB of 1600 DDR3 RAM for 300 total. The Computer parts/Deals sticky here is amazing.

Installing torrented Win7 is not much different from normal Win7 at all. You download the .ISO, burn it to a disk, and boot from the disk to go through Win7 setup as it you had reformatted your hard drive. Now, keep in mind that that particular method for getting free Win7 requires you to use a program called a Loader to Activate your copy of Windows 7 with an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) Serial Key. This is basically the mass key that computer manufacturers like Dell and HP use to activate their pre-built machines. That link to the Official Windows 7 Repository explains all of this in great detail, and I highly suggest reading over it a couple times. If you have any trouble understanding it beyond that point, just ask and either myself or someone else would be glad to help.

The Radeon HD5870 is a pretty powerful card in its own right, and about the same price as 2 HD5770s. If you're only going to be running 1 monitor, and really want to go balls to the wall on graphics and max settings for future-proof technology, I'd go with the HD5870.

I don't have any personal experience with third party heat sinks, and actually asked the same question a week ago in a different thread, haha. But, the answer I got was to look for a heat sink that's mostly or all Copper, because it will conduct heat better. Also, I was told to look for a heat sink with a ball bearing fan instead of a sleeve fan to improve it's lifetime. Newegg should have a pretty nice selection.

[Skie]

I want dual monitors and max settings so I would like something able to handle that. I will search for a good heat sync described and mb when I get home, thanks

[Boyiee]

I want dual monitors and max settings so I would like something able to handle that. I will search for a good heat sync described and mb when I get home, thanks

Hope you enjoy a 90+ degree computer room =/ I don't

[Skie]

Depends if its winter or summer. Could use a little help with the heating in the winter! But are you saying that because if i dual monitor with max settings it going to be a sonia or are you saying it because of the heat sinc?

[The_OG_Nelta]

basic basic

i7
nvidia 2 something series / dual graphics card if you want. since you have a billion dollars to spend.
however much ran you want, 6gb+
1tb+++++++++++ HD
a good enough PSU to run it all

and a compatible Mobo.

Don't act like dual monitoring is the hardest thing to do in the world, because its not. If you are getting a top notch computer, you will get a expensive ass graphics card which will have at least 2 outputs, i think the newer ones have more. Not sure about that though.