Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

[Damane]

the current system is fine:
you can not level sync if your level sync target doesnt gain experience points, going into merit mode means they gain "limit points" ----> no syncing possible. Merits will be accessable like normaly at lvl 75, its just your own call if you change to merit mode or exp mode.
However I see a problem when you lvl new jobs and you reach lvl 75 and want to merit, but there is noone around to merit with because noone can sync to you (because of merit mode). solution is to level sync to someone lower then you, or let level sync work on merit mode, but everyone in the pt only gains limit points, or lets just say fuck meriting and lets reach the cap ¬.¬

[Draylo]

Yeah that is really annoying... They should make some NPCs that scout for the mobs and shout where they are lol. Bigger waves, more than one wave (like 4!) and massive HP would do the trick.

[Shenrien]

Campaign is already sorta layered in a way for this, but it would be nice of them to refine it more.

Normal areas would bring difficulty for players 60-75
Stronghold Areas would bring difficulty for players 75-85
Beaucidine & Xarcabard could cap at 85-90
Zvhal being 90-99

[Rowe]

There has been talk of making it so if you are too far away from the fortification you don't get any reward, exp or allied notes. That needs to happen, but when the cap does hit 99 it will be unbalanced if some sort of corresponding increased in difficulty is not made

[Alkar]

The cap is being raised to make the events easier to complete (in some cases possible) with less people.
Raising the difficulty of the content we have right now goes against this and they've been trying to kill campaign exp for a while, this is probably it.

[Seanr]

I love all this bitching and confusion like the world is coming to an end. : )

[Shenrien]

Well I just thought of something, as imperial standing might still be important in the future of FFXI, when we are all a higher level, how the hell will we get it? Unless we are all Captain, I don't see how anyone would be able to use the runic portal lol.

[Tsuko_Asura]

The same way we get CP and AN

[Narol]

Well I just thought of something, as imperial standing might still be important in the future of FFXI, when we are all a higher level, how the hell will we get it?

Besieged?

[Shenrien]

Besieged?

lol, fuck that :/

[Seanr]

Besieged?

I earned all my ISP there for my turban on BLM before I quit (I didn't even know wtf ISP and a Turban was back then... lol)


This was right when ToAU Came out.. then I quit like a month after

[Malacite]

Simple solution vary the size of waves. Yes, you'll still get assholes tanking entire waves at once, but anyone with any kind of damage-dealing capacity can grab hate off a guy.

Also implement some kind of deaggro/rage/something when you get too far away from the forts. Fuck. Nothing about campaign pisses me off more than some asshole PLD off in the middle of bumfuck nowhere soloing a mob or two to death for 15 minutes after everything else is dead.

Christ I know (and don't steal my expression!) it's so god damned annoying. Battles have been kinda short lately and crappy on EXP, but I absolutely fucking hate it when some greedy little soloing cunt tries to drag it out forever.

Fucking end it already so people can lot drops and move to the next fight. Really aggravating how in the same manner, people absolutely will not engage a Belfry, instead fighting every little minion that pops...

[Priran]

Dr. Hawking: You (start to) get access to non-job-specific merits at LV10. That's why I said "job-specific merits;" presuming that (again) you were talking about implementing a marginally fair system, everyone would lose access to job-specific merits until they were at the new cap, but because general merits don't require you to be at the cap, you would have kept them.

Of course, you could be talking about also removing general merits from everyone (which would be maximally fair to all players under your retarded hypothetical system) until they have at least one LV80 job, and then unlock them under the old scaling system, but that seems unnecessarily complex...

Christ you're stupid.

I never said anything about removing merits from anyone, just the ability to gain limit points. I corrected you the first time and you pretended your original concern was new players not being able to gain any merits, which you're obviously lying about since you mentioned only job-specific merits.

P.S. Trying to shove words into my mouth isn't defensible because you think you're making a "logical conclusion". Your "logical conclusions" are hilariously nonsensical.

...particularly when you consider that your entire f*cking line of argument is easily and permanently solved by ALREADY EXISTING RESTRICTIONS. By design, you cannot sync to someone that is not receiving experience points. Someone that is in merit mode is not receiving experience points. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

Why are you inventing some ridiculous scenario where people sync to 75 permanently? Why are you propping up draconian new rules to solve a problem that won't even exist?

You aren't using a rocket launcher to kill a mosquito; you're using a rocket launcher to kill a fossilized mosquito.

Funfact: This is what people said about farming chigoes from Marids and then SMN burning.

And again, you demonstrate your inability to read and comprehend. I already explained I'm talking about groups of people with jobs they can't be bothered taking to 99 staying in limit mode so they can stay in a given camp permanently, and not about syncing to someone in limit mode, which I said like 3 pages ago I'm pretty sure was impossible.

[Karbuncle]

Christ I know (and don't steal my expression!) it's so god damned annoying. Battles have been kinda short lately and crappy on EXP, but I absolutely fucking hate it when some greedy little soloing cunt tries to drag it out forever.

Fucking end it already so people can lot drops and move to the next fight. Really aggravating how in the same manner, people absolutely will not engage a Belfry, instead fighting every little minion that pops...

I know right

Who doesn't love 500 exp a battle and 1k worth of Synth Mats no one wants and everyone NPCs.

You know, if the battles taking to long, theres this "Performance assessment" button the NPC offers that you can use, get your exp, and warp out.

i mean, OH NOEZ, NO SWAMP ORES, but... it solves the problem, no one forces you to wait for said Douchebag, and complaining like he's holding up your exp is stupid, the only thing he's stopping you from doing is losing a lot on some 1k Synth material.

Its the idiots who blow loads on every mob just to get your stupid union drop that's destroying any kind of decent exp campaign use to give. Now instead of going to a battle, getting a good 2k~6k Exp, and moving on, i get to zone in, hit one mob, watch everything warp, and barely get enough Allied Notes to repay my warp fees.

I don't condone training a mob halfway across the zone to solo it, but there is no good reason to destroy a belfry, if its already there you should milk the exp while you can.

I mean really! its basically an object that dispenses exp! milk it! MILK IT CLEAN!

Spoiler: show

jerks

[Colenzo]

So much debating, its coming out in a week, everyone will know by then.

[seiji]

And again, you demonstrate your inability to read and comprehend. I already explained I'm talking about groups of people with jobs they can't be bothered taking to 99 staying in limit mode so they can stay in a given camp permanently, and not about syncing to someone in limit mode, which I said like 3 pages ago I'm pretty sure was impossible.

why would anybody want to stay permanently in merit, and how will it bother other player

[Priran]

why would anybody want to stay permanently in merit, and how will it bother other player

The person isn't staying permanently in merit mode, a specific job is.

It could bother other players if some 75+ EXP camp gets taken over by merit parties that never leave because everyone is in limit mode and never levels.

[Wulfgang]

Completely agree with Karbuncle; I almost only do dungeon / Beauc / Xarc campaigns now because they last forever and the LV 63 SAM leeches can't survive.

[seiji]

The person isn't staying permanently in merit mode, a specific job is.

It could bother other players if some 75+ EXP camp gets taken over by merit parties that never leave because everyone is in limit mode and never levels.

i dont see how it is diferent than actual lvling new75 VS meripo ( after the first wave of lv cap xping that will be overcamped no matter if people are in xp or merit mode)

[Priran]

i dont see how it is diferent than actual lvling new75 VS meripo ( after the first wave of lv cap xping that will be overcamped no matter if people are in xp or merit mode)

Unless there's a drastic change in how merit parties work, it's an unavoidable fact that it takes way more mobs to sustain a merit party than an EXP party.