Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

[LD]

Yes, because only "the right jobs" can get xp/merits..

Are you one of those people who merits without a bard or something? IIRC, most people demand at least 2 (or something similar). For early PTs, the set-up is even more strict.

I think you misunderstood what I meant by 'getting the right jobs'. I meant there are staples that every group neds and they aren't always available. No matter how hard you want a PT, you still wont get something you need.

So fuck you, basically. Self-righteous prick. It's not about effort, it's about who you can get and if they even feel like meriting, not the heart of the fucking cards.

[grozny]

So fuck you, basically. Self-righteous prick. It's not about effort, it's about who you can get and if they even feel like meriting, not the heart of the fucking cards.

Ok, let's look cool and argue over the internet. Good job man.

When I am replying to shit like:

jobs who don't get merit invites or any other burn invites will be assed out on leveling

And others saying that its too hard for certain jobs because they just don't get invites. Then yes it is about effort.

I'm not going to argue w/ you about this and keep derailing the thread. Feel free to rack up the cool points though, keep calling me anything you like.

[Laynton]

I hope the current endgame areas dont go by the way side and barely get used one 99 comes around. Kinda like how all the 60, 70, endgame dungeons in WoW barely get used now that theres 80. Which forces new players to either fight long and hard to get a party together to go through one or just skip it and use random gear they find or get off AH. I hope that doesnt happen to ske/sea/ etc.

[Dantrag]

I hope the current endgame areas dont go by the way side and barely get used one 99 comes around. Kinda like how all the 60, 70, endgame dungeons in WoW barely get used now that theres 80. Which forces new players to either fight long and hard to get a party together to go through one or just skip it and use random gear they find or get off AH. I hope that doesnt happen to ske/sea/ etc.

They've been used for 6 years... I think that's enough.

[Acevalefor]

Or maybe there will be a change to Convert as a main job. RDM main gets .5/1 ratio or a shorter recast. That would definitely keep the RDMs happy.

[Amastacia]

And others saying that its too hard for certain jobs because they just don't get invites. Then yes it is about effort.

I'm not going to argue w/ you about this and keep derailing the thread. Feel free to rack up the cool points though, keep calling me anything you like.

All the effort in the world won't help some jobs.

Very few PUPs, for instance, will ever get invites. And if I see one in a party, you can bet your sweet ass their party will be on the top of the "run these bitches out" list if they're monumentally stupid enough to head to any of the camps that actually support decent XP.

Most parties most PUPs make are going to suck equally no matter where they go, so they might as well go somewhere that they're not going to inconvenience anyone else (e.g. trolls).

And for the few PUPs who can hold their own... how likely is it that they'll really be joining a pickup party anyway?

Same for a few other jobs.

[Laynton]

They've been used for 6 years... I think that's enough.

For those who have been playing for 6 years ya maybe so! but what about those who want to level a job to 99 that doesnt share some of the gear they surrently have. RDM and WAR for example. If you take RDM to 99 and get all the new endgame gear then decide to lvl WAR to 99 and you havent bothered with current endagme gear from sky and such its going to be a pain to get....or will the new trend be to similar to WoW where they will just end up getting skipped.

[Dantrag]

I think it was this thread that was talking about tier 2 rolls...

Fuckin' combined rolls.

"Berserker's roll - Increases attack power and Double attack chance" - Requires both DRK and WAR in PT for full effects, otherwise it's like not having them in PT.

"Assassin's roll - Increases accuracy and critical change" - etc

"Something i can't think of's Roll - Regen + Refresh"

[Dantrag]

For those who have been playing for 6 years ya maybe so! but what about those who want to level a job to 99 that doesnt share some of the gear they surrently have. RDM and WAR for example. If you take RDM to 99 and get all the new endgame gear then decide to lvl WAR to 99 and you havent bothered with current endagme gear from sky and such its going to be a pain to get....or will the new trend be to similar to WoW where they will just end up getting skipped.

If you have top tier gear on RDM you'll probably not have an issue getting 3-4 people to rampage through sky to get you gear for your WAR.

There is just no point that 75 gear should be valid at 99. No more than haub should be valid at 75.

[Spider-Dan]

I really think the arguments about who will and won't be able to get into level-up/merit parties after the update is an epic waste of time. This is a explicitly designated battle expansion with zero-to-very-little new zones added. I don't think it's any great leap of logic to say that the days of fighting over XP camps are going to be over.

I expect something like a MMM/Assault-style system, where you can simply enter an instanced zone of mobs that range from 80-83, 84-87, 88-91, etc. and chain until timeout. If we're lucky, they'll institute something similar even further down the scales, for those who now need to level from 37-49.

[Laynton]

If you have top tier gear on RDM you'll probably not have an issue getting 3-4 people to rampage through sky to get you gear for your WAR.

There is just no point that 75 gear should be valid at 99. No more than haub should be valid at 75.

Oh ya I agree! I'm not trying to say we should keep doing sky/etc with a full LS of 99 or that 75 gear will still be needed at 99. Its the 76-98 levels that I'm wondering about and 1-75 now that the whole game is going to go through a dramatic change.

I can't wait to get my RDM geard and 99 and go trashn through sky w/ a couple friends! I'll probably do that a ton lol

[Malacite]

Absorb-STR and Absorb-TP will be sexy for a DRK/SCH in campaign. Oh and Absorb-INT for SCH/DRK.

Yes and then you promptly get raped for casting on multiple mobs >_>

[Gergall]

Yes and then you promptly get raped for casting on multiple mobs >_>

Well, it remains to be seen how much easier the mobs are with an extra 5 levels.

By 99, casting on multiple mobs and having them all rush at you will surely be desirable.

[Malacite]

80? Not that much. However I suspect that by 99 you will see people soloing Besieged NMs and shit like that.

Man I can not wait to see what kind of epic bullshit a 99 BST can do...

Things I'm hoping to see in the update;

- Automatons getting Thunder IV
- Stone V for BLM
- At least a few new BPs
- New Jugs
- New Wyvern Breath (for the love of God there are still 2 unused animations.)
- Decent new WS (they better not all be elemental, and if they are they better not suck)
- AF3 with set bonuses that are worth equipping the set for


I got more, but I just wanna rant about that last point... I can't be the only one who's royally pissed at how awesome some sets look, but the stats either suck or there's much better items for particular slots so you end up looking like a complete douche with your mix & match get up (yay run on sentence!) Why do style and performance have to be mutually exclusive 90% of the time?

[Kyte]

If you have top tier gear on RDM you'll probably not have an issue getting 3-4 people to rampage through sky to get you gear for your WAR.

There is just no point that 75 gear should be valid at 99. No more than haub should be valid at 75.

Wait, wut? Haub is still valid at 75 lol

[Laynton]

- AF3 with set bonuses that are worth equipping the set for

omg I so hope they are actually worth it! I would love to have the AF3 have set bonuses that make them worth wearing and look amazing to boot! (not getting hopes up though)

Couple of friends and I were talking about how cool it would be to have AF3 have base stats and then be able to augment what stats, skills, etc. on to them to suite your personal syle of play better. i.e. RDM melee set or RDM mage set.

[Thiefami]

omg I so hope they are actually worth it! I would love to have the AF3 have set bonuses that make them worth wearing and look amazing to boot! (not getting hopes up though)

Couple of friends and I were talking about how cool it would be to have AF3 have base stats and then be able to augment what stats, skills, etc. on to them to suite your personal syle of play better. i.e. RDM melee set or RDM mage set.

I hope they add selectable augments to them as well in a limbus af+1 meets miniexpac sort of way

[Samonez]

omg I so hope they are actually worth it! I would love to have the AF3 have set bonuses that make them worth wearing and look amazing to boot! (not getting hopes up though)

Couple of friends and I were talking about how cool it would be to have AF3 have base stats and then be able to augment what stats, skills, etc. on to them to suite your personal syle of play better. i.e. RDM melee set or RDM mage set.

I would love to see set bonuses on AF3 that are worth a damn.

[Not Kuno]

Yes and then you promptly get raped for casting on multiple mobs >_>

Fuck that, AoE drain 2 and get fifty bajillionty HP.

[Shenrien]

Fuck that, AoE drain 2 and get fifty bajillionty HP.

is /SCH even any good at this point in the game? if not, what will make it any good to use after the update.. manifestation cannot simply be that great to take away from /whm and /rdm's benefits.