Final Fantasy XIV at E3 2010

[Alok]

When is SE going to answer the fan powered Q & A they set up on their virtual booth?

[Edgie]

Fucking subligar again.

[Urza]

after watching that video of combat, do not want to play, another slow paced combat game just like ffxi. fucking awful

The videos do not show the reality. Even alpha CAN be as fast as most skills in other MMOs. Videos however are usually done by people trying to show stuff off and they take longer doing it. Having played, its way different speed from what the videos tend to make it out to be. At least if you're not playing with broken hands.

[Hyan]

The videos do not show the reality. Even alpha CAN be as fast as most skills in other MMOs. Videos however are usually done by people trying to show stuff off and they take longer doing it. Having played, its way different speed from what the videos tend to make it out to be. At least if you're not playing with broken hands.

You're not convincing him. Haters gonna hate. If he hates slow combat, he hates the combat in XIV. Why is he here then? Idk, likes to troll perhaps. Don't feed him.

[Spira]

Seems like the new action bar thing is similar to XIIIs ATB except that you cannot queue commands

[GRT]

seems like rogue's energy mechanic, is this gonna be for every class?

[Freelancer]

The new action bar thing is too fast, I don't like it.

I kid, I kid its pretty awesome.

[Agito]

I'm just glad that damned thing is gone..
http://www.zam.com/Im/Image/162533.jpg
This is the damned thing and it's very horrible!

[plue]

I'm just hoping I'll be able to keep up with the fast paced combat, I'm usually drunk or trying to relax while playing.

Also, I'm not sure what the big deal with the horned kid is. I know it could be a new race, but it's one ugly ass race IMO.

[Ramsey]

seems like rogue's energy mechanic, is this gonna be for every class?

Just like Chocobo Whistles are exactly like mounts in WoW? Wtf is with this ass-tard logic that everyone who plays WoW seems to use on the internet?

I'm not really trying to be a wanker here, or to rag on you specifically, but come on a fucking action gauge that fills up over time? YOU MEAN LIKE AN ACTIVE TIME BATTLE GAUGE!?

Like the one in FINAL FANTASY IV? Release in oh I don't know, the early 90s for the SUPER NINTENDO? Yeah, so it's totally like WoW's Rouge energy bar, exactly like that.

Ugh, it's infuriating, WoW didn't invent bars that fill up over time, or mounts, or swords, or dragons. I'm getting tired of everyone comparing them. You probably didn't mean it in such a literal way but why is everything referenced back to WoW, even when the damn series the game came from had that system in place beforehand.

Games have long had bars that fill up over time, let's just please not reference them to Rouge's energy meter, please. /insanetantrumend

I don't even dislike WoW, I've played it, I'm just really sick of everyone benchmarking every single system in a game "as it relates to wow."


Edit:

Sorry for the crazy rant, blowing off some steam. Going back on topic, it's very unlike WoW's energy bar, because all your actions use this bar, even regular old attacks, or spells etc. So it's really an ATB bar if anything, it controls all the commands in the game, and how many you can string together, and how fast etc. It's definitely something that is not unique to a class, it's how the entire game's ability system is controlled in terms of combat pacing!

[Kuya]

WoW is better than FFXIV.

[Omniyoji]

Alok, you should get that sig animated!

[Maguspk]

I love it when people rage at the mention of WoW, it's so sad yet delicious.

Combat looks slow still but I prefer it over that little bubble thing, having not played either though I think it's not too huge a change.

[Olo401]

WoW is better than FFXIV.

http://hippiekiller.files.wordpress....8/09/troll.jpg

[Kalisa]

I love it when people rage at the mention of WoW, it's so sad yet delicious.

Totally agree there. That said, yes, it's an ATB and WoW did not invent ATBs. However, the concept of an energy/stamina/wtfever gauge that fills continuously over time while using attacks that generally don't deplete the whole thing is not nearly as widespread. The only examples that come to mind for me are WoW Rogues and Guild Wars. It's a subtle difference, but it's different enough that it's a specific kind of ATB, not just the general sort we're all used to.

People really need to calm the fuck down.

Also:

cary elwes confirmed for XIV

Damn you, you actually got my hopes up before I realized you were just making a Dread Pirate Roberts crack at the picture. I loved that movie.

[Toxictaru]

Just like Chocobo Whistles are exactly like mounts in WoW? Wtf is with this ass-tard logic that everyone who plays WoW seems to use on the internet?

I'm not really trying to be a wanker here, or to rag on you specifically, but come on a fucking action gauge that fills up over time? YOU MEAN LIKE AN ACTIVE TIME BATTLE GAUGE!?

Like the one in FINAL FANTASY IV? Release in oh I don't know, the early 90s for the SUPER NINTENDO? Yeah, so it's totally like WoW's Rouge energy bar, exactly like that.

Ugh, it's infuriating, WoW didn't invent bars that fill up over time, or mounts, or swords, or dragons. I'm getting tired of everyone comparing them. You probably didn't mean it in such a literal way but why is everything referenced back to WoW, even when the damn series the game came from had that system in place beforehand.

Games have long had bars that fill up over time, let's just please not reference them to Rouge's energy meter, please. /insanetantrumend

I don't even dislike WoW, I've played it, I'm just really sick of everyone benchmarking every single system in a game "as it relates to wow."


Edit:

Sorry for the crazy rant, blowing off some steam. Going back on topic, it's very unlike WoW's energy bar, because all your actions use this bar, even regular old attacks, or spells etc. So it's really an ATB bar if anything, it controls all the commands in the game, and how many you can string together, and how fast etc. It's definitely something that is not unique to a class, it's how the entire game's ability system is controlled in terms of combat pacing!

Its more similar to a rogue energy bar than it is to ATB.

Lets break it down for a second.

ATB, fills up over time (hence the name). Resets to 0 whenever your turn is up.
Rogue Energy Bar. Fills gradually over time, depletes based on attacks/abilities.
FFXIV Stam Bar. Fills gradually over time, depletes based on attacks/abilities.

Oh wait.

No really though, WoW didn't invent it, but certainly an MMO, or a game really, of that size and popularity is certainly going to have comparisons drawn to it. And iirc, FFXIV devs have said in the past that FFXIV was certainly going to be drawing some influence from other games, this might be one of those.

Still though, this stam bar is much more similar to a rogue energy bar than it is to an ATB bar.

[Hyan]

While I'm sure SE took ideas from WoW, I don't think this is one of them.

Far more likely is that it's taken from XIII than from Rogue Energy Bar. IMO anyway!

Who cares though!? WoW > FFXIV after all~

[Loaar]

Not that I want to feed the debate, but its also like the Action Points bar in WAR.

Every ability costs AP, AP refills constantly at a set rate.

The fact that skills have a minimum stamina you have to have remaining (that's more then the cost of the skill) is an interesting design choice.

I personally like what I've seen so far, looking forward to seeing it in action.

[Toxictaru]

While I'm sure SE took ideas from WoW, I don't think this is one of them.

Far more likely is that it's taken from XIII than from Rogue Energy Bar. IMO anyway!

Who cares though!? WoW > FFXIV after all~

Regardless, the point is that it has less in common with the ATB and more in common with other MMOs. It really isn't that hard to compare it to wow

[BRP]

So how exactly does this thing work. How has the Effort bar effect been shaped into the action bar? (I kind of liked the concept of the effort bar, it just needed to be faster)