The Walk of Echoes Beckons! (06/15/2010)

[aduidarnenye]

WAR public quests also had a series of objectives the players participating had to complete. It wasn't just "kill all the mobs that are incoming" over and over (although there was a lot of that too). That's also part of the reason that it was more interesting than Campaign in FF11, and part of the reason no one does the attacking Campaigns. Beating on a Fortification point is dumb.

[Shenrien]

Well yay, now I feel great for slacking.

edit - untill they release the final BC which gives a ring that has Acc, STP, STR, ATK, DEX on it.

[Destinye]

The only difference is that Campaign sucks hard because it's unbalanced, extremely limited, and has a horrible horrible horrible reward distribution system.

Idk man, getting easy Allied Notes for gear everyone seems to love (Iron Ram, Cobra Unit (Melee)) doesn't seem that horrible. Unless you mean the newer system introduced much later called Union which most people don't even bother with anymore yeah.

[Aihree]

This isn't the first time that SE has abandoned grand plans whch were going to be for the storyline, instead using the already-created content for something entirely different.

But I suspect that this isn't going to end up as good as that previous time, when 'Lower Promyvion' and 'Ou'Phat Obelisk' were turned into Apollyon and Temenos Limbus respectively.

[dejet]

Even if it is something you can lock in with your linkshell it sounds like none dd will get fucked by drops. Ya you can lot other things off mobs but if you can't attack mobs just like in campaign where you experience will suck for not dding it sounds like drops might suffer unless they add some major boost to healing, brd buffs and such. There are lots of ways to fix it, but se did not do such a great job in campaign with the mage jobs.

[Hyan]

Right but in Dynamis shells people could talk to each other, communicate plans, etc. In this some guy might think he knows best and completely fuck things up and guess what, you can't do anything about it. Sure that guy might not be there the next time you do a run but some other guy probably will be. That's the problem I have with it, there is no real coordination in campaign people just do whatever the fuck they want. Now if my ls is somewhere and we're trying to do things carefully and some random guy just runs in and screws up then what the fuck. I can't see any possible justification for this retarded system. Just make shit fucking instanced.

That is only if this event is "solo friendly" and you can just go in and fuck shit up without thought. Maybe on the first "stage", but I would assume later you'll get hammered by Hydra's and Nidhogg's that a lone warrior will get owned within 2 seconds.

[Shenrien]

That is only if this event is "solo friendly" and you can just go in and fuck shit up without thought. Maybe on the first "stage", but I would assume later you'll get hammered by Hydra's and Nidhogg's that a lone warrior will get owned within 2 seconds.

I'd love to see Several Nidhoggs, Fafnirs, and Hydra's just walking around in the same room together.

[Red Demon Taoist]

For someone like me, someone with a job and a real life life, who essentially doesn't have time to play FFXI anymore, this sounds like it could be a dream.

[ringthree]

I managed to get it to 10% solo before timing out and my friend managed to beat it solo by using Powder Boots to deaggro it. It's definitely duoable.

I didn't say that it wasn't duoable.

[Eldelphia]

I'll wait to see what the reality is but right now this is a major turn off for me. I was looking forward to something more challenging. Let's hope this isn't just Campaign Mark #2. Sure I can pull in a ton of points /nin with Mystic Boon but 'meh' if it's not more interesting.

Wait and see I guess...

[Destinye]

I'll wait to see what the reality is but right now this is a major turn off for me. I was looking forward to something more challenging. Let's hope this isn't just Campaign Mark #2. Sure I can pull in a ton of points /nin with Mystic Boon but 'meh' if it's not more interesting.

Wait and see I guess...

How can you even gauge difficulty of an event without using it? Merely based on the fact it requires easy (read: Dynamis, Salvage, Einherjar, sky) mission progression?

It sounds like campaign yeah, but Einherjar sounded exactly like dynamis and people were 'turned off' because of it yet it's something done regularly.

[Priran]

it can't be too hard if they're letting random people in and even encouraging solo participation (on the french site)

[Spider-Dan]

WAR's system would work much better than our current one because there is still the luck factor playing into it. As long as you can contribute enough to be eligible for the roll you can still get gear over people who have the #1 participation slot if luck is on your side.

How is this a good thing?

Correcting a flawed method of determining participation (one where RDM and PLD come out on top every time) is one thing. But the best items should go to the people who have participated the most. A system that emphasizes luck over work is... not desirable.

[Gwynplaine]

I dunno it's pretty hard to tell what this will wind up being like. Really depends on the drops, or if you can accrue points on your own to earn for items. Will the rewards be enough incentive to draw people in to actually participate? I'm undecided til we see what it's like.

And you lazy mission bastards aren't off the hook yet. You could still be required to be further to access later portions of WoE.

[Rocl]

That guy is provoking an antlion right?

[Toth]

Looks quite promising, especially since I was expected another sky/sea area (though this may be coming with the second part next update).

Man, there is going to be a TON of content with this update: Abyssea, WoE, and who knows what else :D

[Suteru]

Looks like Campaign meets Dynamis meets Einherjar... Not too bad, but doesn't seem this section is supposed to be an LS type event.

[The Blackrose]

That guy is provoking an antlion right?

Looks like it.

[Therin]

doesn't seem this section is supposed to be an LS type event.

Honestly, I'm glad. Linkshells already have too much to do.

As of this update:

Limbus
Dynamis
Einherjar
Salvage
Abyssea
Miscellaneous Events (Sky, Sea, VNMs, ZNMs, SCNMs, force-spawn NMs. . .)

And that's not even counting HNMs. . bring on the casual content, because unless the new "linkshell" content actually makes previous linkshell content completely obsolete, we're out of time as is.

[Laynton]

1 thing i hope doesnt happen is, like in campaign, that we dont have to constantly struggle to maintain a current rank. I dont bother with campaign b/c i just have the time in a day to partisipate in campaign to reap the rewards which are only obtainable my constantly doing campaign. which really sucks for more casual players, like myself, cuz i prob wont be getting allied ring any time soon...more like at all.