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  1. #2101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    An SSD would not boost performance. You'd load/zone faster, but framerates would be unaffected. You could consider load times a 'performance boost' I guess, just understand what you're spending your money on.

    Yup obviously posted something similar in the tech threads a day or so ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    If your GPU is at 99% the entire time on High, it's safe to say you wouldn't benefit much from a CPU upgrade on those settings since its already working as hard as it can. You could most likely 100% confirm this yourself by backing off your OC and running High once at stock. I may be overestimating the 260, but I don't think you'd still maxed out with your CPU at 2.5ghz.

    From there, you could extrapolate a little and guesstimate what you'll get @ 1680x1050. So like, you're 70% load on low(720p).. and some percentage above 100 high(1080p). If you drop your cpu to 2.5 and get sayyy, something like 80%, then run 3.0. If that gets 99%+ again, you know your 3.5 OC is a good deal faster than your 260 can handle. Whereas if you drop to 3.4ghz and your GPU usage immediately drops, you know you're just barely on the brink of maxing your GPU. Follow?
    Damn, that's some solid advice. Thanks, wouldn't have thought of that.

    I didn't notice before, but there is a scene in the benchmark where my GPU seems to get bottlenecked by the CPU, but it's only that one scene. It occurs on all CPU speeds, I even tried 3.6Ghz briefly. It's the scene where you are "flying" and the camera pans around you and up towards the sky (after you mount the stairs). Let's call it "CPU Scene" for reference.

    At stock (2.5Ghz):
    GPU goes way too often to 88-90% or lower, though there are times that it stays around 99-100%. CPU Scene: GPU as low as 42%.

    3.0/3.25/3.4Ghz:
    Fluctuates between 99-100%, though I noticed every now and then it dropping a few % below 99. CPU Scene: As low as 50/51/55% depending on Ghz. (GPU% goes up slightly while I OC more).

    3.5Ghz:
    Fluctuates between 99-100% and never drops lower. Except in the CPU Scene: GPU% still goes as low as 54%.

    In the end I tried 3.6Ghz (I know it's not stable, but I could run the benchmark without hickups). GPU% went a up bit again, still as low as 57%. So it's definitely a CPU issue. But why only in that scene?

    And are these results conclusive enough to say that the CPU is indeed a bottleneck?

    I'll try to get some more results from the beta.

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    My 5830 only gets to about 50% load max and that's only for a few seconds on both high and low, but usually hovers around 35~40%. It's clear my C2D is the bottleneck, because even when it's at 2.4ghz from 1.83ghz, it's running at 95+% load. Really thinking about just grabbing a C2Q and call it a day, but it seems the benchmark doesn't give a clear outlook on actual performance in the game. If only I had a beta invite so I could see what it really translates into...

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    Asus G73JH owners, how are your FPS both in benchmark and in beta?

    Not much of a FPS freak here since this current laptop only plays XI at 5-12 FPS max and I find that acceptable for myself anyway (though it does get a little annoying at times). Just wondering what kind of FPS I can expect in general...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovian View Post
    Here are my results for my Asus G73jh-A1

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    http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...chmarkhigh.jpg

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    Asus G73JH owners, how are your FPS both in benchmark and in beta?

    Not much of a FPS freak here since this current laptop only plays XI at 5-12 FPS max and I find that acceptable for myself anyway (though it does get a little annoying at times). Just wondering what kind of FPS I can expect in general...
    For FPS on low get 30-70fps, on high get 20-40fps both look very smooth the drop in FPS only happens when scene changes. The big scene with the jellyfish is nice and smooth. From what i have hear about beta on 720p it runs smooth with medium settings and DoF and AO on. LL stutters i believe however its more a 5800 issue than the laptop not handling the game. All in all the laptop is a beast and better priced than a custom build or alienware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovian View Post
    For FPS on low get 30-70fps, on high get 20-40fps both look very smooth the drop in FPS only happens when scene changes. The big scene with the jellyfish is nice and smooth. From what i have hear about beta on 720p it runs smooth with medium settings and DoF and AO on. LL stutters i believe however its more a 5800 issue than the laptop not handling the game. All in all the laptop is a beast and better priced than a custom build or alienware.
    Sweet, I've been used to <10FPS thanks to FFXI for more than I care to admit. Would be nice to actually see characters moving rather than fluctuating around S:

  8. #2108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Part of the ATI problem in the beta is down to texture streaming, I have transfered my beta folder to a second HDD and its seen an improvement.

    So I'm sure an SSD will have some impact on the game, depending how optimised their data streaming is.
    And it's exactly why I'll be monitoring my HDD usage in the next beta. And from what I played in the beta, there was quite a number of times I used the teleport function. Most of the times it will probably be negligible, but I'm expecting some heavy loading, especially in the higher population areas.

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    An SSD would not boost performance. You'd load/zone faster, but framerates would be unaffected. You could consider load times a 'performance boost' I guess, just understand what you're spending your money on.
    All the character models and textures and etc will be loading from your HDD, so a SSD will increase performance there. Unless that's what you meant by "load" times, in which case I'm just clarifying it for other people. :3

  10. #2110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    All the character models and textures and etc will be loading from your HDD, so a SSD will increase performance there. Unless that's what you meant by "load" times, in which case I'm just clarifying it for other people. :3
    Performance isn't the word I would use in this scenario...maybe something like "overall gaming experience" is the right phrase.

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    I could use a CPU upgrade, but waiting until Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimes View Post
    Damn, that's some solid advice. Thanks, wouldn't have thought of that.

    I didn't notice before, but there is a scene in the benchmark where my GPU seems to get bottlenecked by the CPU, but it's only that one scene. It occurs on all CPU speeds, I even tried 3.6Ghz briefly. It's the scene where you are "flying" and the camera pans around you and up towards the sky (after you mount the stairs). Let's call it "CPU Scene" for reference.

    At stock (2.5Ghz):
    GPU goes way too often to 88-90% or lower, though there are times that it stays around 99-100%. CPU Scene: GPU as low as 42%.

    3.0/3.25/3.4Ghz:
    Fluctuates between 99-100%, though I noticed every now and then it dropping a few % below 99. CPU Scene: As low as 50/51/55% depending on Ghz. (GPU% goes up slightly while I OC more).

    3.5Ghz:
    Fluctuates between 99-100% and never drops lower. Except in the CPU Scene: GPU% still goes as low as 54%.

    In the end I tried 3.6Ghz (I know it's not stable, but I could run the benchmark without hickups). GPU% went a up bit again, still as low as 57%. So it's definitely a CPU issue. But why only in that scene?

    And are these results conclusive enough to say that the CPU is indeed a bottleneck?

    I'll try to get some more results from the beta.
    It'll bottleneck low res's, but you'll probably be fine at 1680x1050 even if its still there slightly. Don't sweat the meteor scene, thats unavoidable. My shit drops to the 20s during that part.

  13. #2113
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    I build a new PC primarily for FFXIV.

    I got a core i7-860 with 2.8 Ghz 4 GB RAM@1333 Mhz and an ATI 5870. Nothing OCed. 64 Bit- Windows 7 Professional.

    Low resultion: 5548
    High resolution: 4655

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    Low: 9089
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    High: 9100
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    Sorry for the bad quality photos, took them with my iPhone.

    Core i7 980x 6 Core OC @ 4.405 GHz (not sure why it still says 3.3 on the screen)

    CrossfireX Sapphire 5970 (Which is Quad 5850's) - Not overclocked as I'm waiting on some Arctic Cooling Accelero Coolers. Since I'm not running a true watercooled system. (CPU Cooler is Corsair H50)

    6GB Corsair Dominater RAM - 8-8-8-24
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    Im running on Catalyst 10.3 I will retry again at 10.5 and 10.6 and maybe 10.7 when it's released next week. There are some issues with 10.6 in CFx. Especially with 5970's. I find 10.3 to be the most stable. With these scores so similar from Low and High, there has to be a bottleneck somewhere. My guess is the CPU since 980X's have a huge potential. Scores are great anyways, I dont care about overclocking more.

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    That's a crazy score, and 2x 5970 is crazy

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    moved

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    I was just curious as to how I will run the game with this rig I'm putting together.

    Windows 7 64 bit premium
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    Im curious as to how this rig will preform. I am not interested in running the game in low res mode, call it picky. I'd like high ress mode as good as I can manage within reason.

    I am thinking of upping my vid card to the Radeon 5850 and that is about as much as I can afford, the reg is going to cost about $1184 Canadian with the 5770 and add 150 to that if I switch to the 5850.

    Any advice? Any nerds out there know their stuff? Will this rig preform well? Bench score? I dont have a computer to run the benchmark on yet I am building it myself.

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    @Kuma: 5970s use underclocked 5870s, not 5850s. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumaeru View Post
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    Low: 9089
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    real benchmark doesnt allow sli/cf so rly those results dont mean anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    real benchmark doesnt allow sli/cf so rly those results dont mean anything
    It takes advantage of it, just takes a little bit of working around. If the score didn't change, that would show that it doesn't allow SLI/CF

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