The OFFICIAL FFXIV Benchmark & Beta Performance Thread

[Gethsemane]

I am still in awe that I can't play this game on 2009 Mac OSX, it's ridiculous. Nobody should have to upgrade their computer for a video game unless it is like 10 years old.

Like usual, SE is digging themselves a hole and hanging on to their small niche following.

Sorry, I tried to look past this... really tried to stop myself from trolling you but I just can't do it.

Anyone who actually goes out and buys a Macintosh for gaming is fucking ridiculous. Not in 1 million years has Apple ever been about gaming why would you put faith into that company to provide you an awesome game experience when that is not their focus?

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[Questionable]

Sorry to ask this but, so is the game more CPU intensive than video? I have a intel duo 6550, will upgrade possibly to quad or one of the i5 i7 but would need MB.

Does anyone know which is more important to upgrade?

[Gulkeeva]

Sorry to ask this but, so is the game more CPU intensive than video? I have a intel duo 6550, will upgrade possibly to quad or one of the i5 i7 but would need MB.

Does anyone know which is more important to upgrade?

Its somewhat both..

smaller the res you play = more cpu dependent
bigger the res = more gpu dependent

seeing as the benchmark is alot different rom beta.. I'd be leaning toward more gpu dependent for the game now though (especially if you want the game to look good enough to masturbate to)f

[Questionable]

Well unless I get a new LCD (which I probably would) I can't even fit the high res benchmark on my screen. My LCD is old though, it's from 2006 I think, one of the first 19" LCD.. 1440x900 resolution native/max.

[Questionable]

Well, is windows 7 worthwhile upgrade or XP suffice?

[Tonks]

XP will work, but Windows 7 is awesome and you should upgrade if you can.

[Mife]

Hey guys just quick question wanted to ask about and see what you guys thought about it .. Was just curious to see if you run multiple monitors would the Gpu's take advantage of SLi or Crossfire my problem is i went and built my new rig just for FFXIV and i dont think it will support SLI but if it does i wouldnt think twice about keeping them .... So i have a step up plan on my gtx 470's and was curious to know if was worth upgrade to 1 gtx 480 and sell the other one and later down the road get another gtx 480 to have SLI on crysis 2 etc ... Or should i just hold out and see if the game will support multi gpu's because the 470's rock just dislike the fact if it doesnt support sli i want the best GPU i can get to run the game .. Any input would greatly help thanks :D

Also do you think that a gtx 470 would play the game without any lag etc because currently we dont have a card in the market that will max out the benchmark with high res over 8000 hell even hit 8000 so my question to you is what would it take to be maxed out on high res over 8000.. i mean i score 40k on 3Dmarkvantage and still only score 4800 on high res with only 1 gtx470 so again i say what will it take to max it out the next nvidia gpus in 2012 the 500 series or something lol ?

[Buddy]

Sorry to be a pain but I can't post pics yet either. I just got my new PC in and the best graphics card I had to choose from was an ATI HD Radeon 5570 2GB. My low was 1500ish and the high was 951 I think. I have a core i7 930 @2.8ghz. I saw another persons screen shot with a 2.4 ghz and a ati radeon 4800 series and it had way better scores (like 1000 better). I wasn't sure if my graphics card would be a problem. It seems the lower model is out performing mine. Any suggestions?

[ScootSeraph]

Sorry, I tried to look past this... really tried to stop myself from trolling you but I just can't do it.

Anyone who actually goes out and buys a Macintosh for gaming is fucking ridiculous. Not in 1 million years has Apple ever been about gaming why would you put faith into that company to provide you an awesome game experience when that is not their focus?

Are you actually that pretentious that you believe every single person who has interest in playing computer games buys a gaming computer? There are only 2 video games I have any interest in playing: NHL10 (XBOX360), and someday, hopefully FFXIV. Considering the university I attend offered a great deal on Macs and they are practical for everything except gaming, I thought buying a mac would be a smart idea for...oh you know...LIFE.

There is this misconception that everyone that wants to play FFXIV is a gamer that is well equipped. That is not the case, and evidently SE doesn't realize this either. Not all of us are willing to spend thousands of dollars prepping for a single video game. It's not like I am complaining about my 5 year old computer, I'm complaining about my laptop that just a year ago was a top of the line product.

[Questionable]

Is it necessary to get "Ultimate" for windows 7 or the basic one is good enough. I see it's because of some options they have. But charging $100-$150 more..

[Gekii]

I believe the basic 7 "home" edition is good enough if your buying

[Tonks]

It doesn't really matter what version you get, just depends on if you want the features that each provides.

Install the 64 bit version though if you want to use 4GB or ram or higher. The 32 bit version doesn't support that much RAM.

[Darte]

Haven't SE been saying for a while that you're gonna need a beast of a pc just to even play it? Should have been enough of a warning...

I'm not a MAC guy so I dunno the first thing about anything MAC, but I'm under the assumption MAC users need to use a feature, whose name escapes me at the moment, that allows you to boot windows inside the MAC OS (boot camp was it?). Now unless there is a way of just natively running windows without the MAC OS running (which I don't believe there is, but I could be mistakened), you are looking at an even greater consumption of already scarce resources in terms of computing power. On desktops this may be fine but laptops are already behind the curve both in PC and in MACs.


long story short: If you buy a MAC, it better be top of the line just because you would have to run windows to even get XIV running. Last I checked, they aren't making it for MAC anytime soon from the release date S:

[Tavjon]

Hey guys, ran the benchmark and got a 2200 score with GTX 260 and ic2 6600 @ 2.40GHz 2.39GHz

Was looking at the bench boards and was wondering if I needed to get a new proccessor to get better resutlts or would the 9800GT give me the same results? Thanks

[ScootSeraph]

Haven't SE been saying for a while that you're gonna need a beast of a pc just to even play it? Should have been enough of a warning...

I'm not a MAC guy so I dunno the first thing about anything MAC, but I'm under the assumption MAC users need to use a feature, whose name escapes me at the moment, that allows you to boot windows inside the MAC OS (boot camp was it?). Now unless there is a way of just natively running windows without the MAC OS running (which I don't believe there is, but I could be mistakened), you are looking at an even greater consumption of already scarce resources in terms of computing power. On desktops this may be fine but laptops are already behind the curve both in PC and in MACs.


long story short: If you buy a MAC, it better be top of the line just because you would have to run windows to even get XIV running. Last I checked, they aren't making it for MAC anytime soon from the release date S:

Thank you for the sensible response.

The problem is that my Mac can handle every other game out there, and run it comfortably. I have a friend with the exact same model (tons of schools offer these packages) and he has tried nearly every MMORPG out there, and they work. Now fast forward to FFXIV, and the games scores 1000 on the benchmark. That is a serious problem that was poorly contested by SE.

Nobody else finds it to be a problem that there are more posts/threads about buying new computers then actual game content? This isn't some underground game by an unknown company trying to garner notoriety, this is a game that is being advertised out the ass at gaming conventions, by arguably the most famous game developing company in the East. Hundreds of thousands of people are either going to be unable to afford buying a new computer, or are going to say "fuck it".

Most of the people that follow this game religiously on websites like this are preparing or are already prepared for this game. What about the people that aren't? What happens when SE realizes their game can only be handled by 25% of their expected customers. They will lose money, a lot of money.

[Amele]

Haven't SE been saying for a while that you're gonna need a beast of a pc just to even play it? Should have been enough of a warning...

I'm not a MAC guy so I dunno the first thing about anything MAC, but I'm under the assumption MAC users need to use a feature, whose name escapes me at the moment, that allows you to boot windows inside the MAC OS (boot camp was it?). Now unless there is a way of just natively running windows without the MAC OS running (which I don't believe there is, but I could be mistakened), you are looking at an even greater consumption of already scarce resources in terms of computing power. On desktops this may be fine but laptops are already behind the curve both in PC and in MACs.


long story short: If you buy a MAC, it better be top of the line just because you would have to run windows to even get XIV running. Last I checked, they aren't making it for MAC anytime soon from the release date S:

for several years now all 'new' mac desktops and laptops have used intel core2 series processors and are IBM compatible machines. They can run windows (or linux, or unix, or any other IBM compatible OS...) natively.

boot camp exists, it's a dual OS boot loader that allows you to pick which of your multiple installed oses you will run, and includes hardware drivers for the target OS platform. - in fact, depending on sales, refurb, student discount deals, etc, when you buy, sometimes the mac is the cheaper windows laptop at the same performance level.*



*this was the case for me about 2 years ago, between a student discount that applied on their refurbs and a general back to school sale through the university store on top of the discount, I was able to snag a 2600$ mbp for about 1800$, where the comparable HP/Dell etc, hovered around 1900-2100, which is why I have a MBP.

**further disclaimer: I also have a desktop and won't be playing FFXIV on the mac except maybe to do AH or crafting stuff if I'm traveling. edit: assuming the AH actually exists and isn't a cluster of retainers in 8 zones where you have to load thousands of models at once....


another edit: the benchmark isn't close to optimized. just because someone's 3 year old rig is pulling 1k marks on the bench does not mean the game won't be playable. it's a fucking benchmark.. the actual beta is capped at 30fps right now anyway.

1280x720 (a resolution your grandmother's computer can probably handle) and 30fps cap? if you built/bought your machine sometime after the advent of DX10 and spent more than a couple hundred bucks on it you will be able to handle this game at low settings.

[Izzy]

Hopefully the 10.7 drivers that come out tomorrow fix the little microstuttering problem I have in FFXI.

The last beta update fixed all my FFXIV problems.

[Celeras]

Microstutering is not fixable via drivers, its inherent in all dual gpu sytems. So unless you're referring to something else and used a poor term to describe it, it won't be fixed.

[kelvinblade]

will this run ffxi 1080p ok? can i get some feedback? thx.


Intel Core i5 760 (2.8GHz) CPU/8M [Socket 1156] BOX
A-DATA DDR-3 1333MHz 2G Ram AD2GD31333N X 2
Asus P7P55D-E LX
Gigabyte GV-N460OC-1GI GTX460 1GB DDR5
Samsung 500GB HD502HJ SATA II/7200R/16MB HDD
LG GH-22NS50 22X DVD Writer /SATA/
CORSAIR VX550W CMPSU-550VXUK 550W 80Plus
LanCool Dragonlord PC-K62 ATX CASE

[BlackheartX]

The hypertransport link will slow down past 2200MHz, and you're running at over 2600. Just thought I'd point that out..

This advice is rated 4/5 HOLLERS!!! and this is the result so far without tweaks..

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