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    Yeah you can notice the difference. Colors on armors pop more and textures look really smooth. Remember the first time you saw 2048x2048 back res in FFXI? Thats pretty much what happens.

    I'm almost positive both of those setups can hit 4k with that card... Your answer is probably on the first page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zellot_OG View Post
    (asked this in the hardware req thread, thought I'd get a quicker response here) (copy paste below)

    Stupid question, but I wouldn't ask if I knew the answer.

    Which would get a higher benchmark score: (Hi Res)

    (1) Phenom x4 965 BE (3.4 Ghz) + Ati 5850

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    (2) Phenom x6 1055T (2.8 Ghz) + Ati 5850


    My current setup is, Phenom x3 (2.6 Ghz) + Ati 4890 (Hi Res score of 2400).

    My goal is 4k Hi Res, which setup (above) will get me there?
    I had a 965 + 5850, OCed to 3.6 and no OC on the 5850 got me around 3.8.

    I have a 1090t now (4.0ghz) and a 5850 slightly oced and get 4,255-4,300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Podginator View Post
    I had a 965 + 5850, OCed to 3.6 and no OC on the 5850 got me around 3.8.

    I have a 1090t now (4.0ghz) and a 5850 slightly oced and get 4,255-4,300.
    Wow..... Phenom X6 it is...

    I'm hoping 1055t +5850 gets me 4k Hi Res... that's all I want...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zellot_OG View Post
    Wow..... Phenom X6 it is...

    I'm hoping 1055t +5850 gets me 4k Hi Res... that's all I want...
    If you're not intending to overclock I'd still go with the 965, 3.4 will beat 2.8 and the 965 is a black edition CPU meaning it's all that much easier to overclock it, can easily get 3.8 with stock air and stock voltage with the 965.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Podginator View Post
    If you're not intending to overclock I'd still go with the 965, 3.4 will beat 2.8 and the 965 is a black edition CPU meaning it's all that much easier to overclock it, can easily get 3.8 with stock air and stock voltage with the 965.
    $20 dollar differnce between the two. Might as well future proof my rig with the x6...

    I don't want to get an x6 six months down the line.

    So will a 1055t + 5850 slightly OCed get me near 4k benchmark on high res?

    Ati's are easy to OC, they come with the Overdrive software.

    I OCEd my 4890 last night and got around 50 more points on the benchmark.

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    It's overclocking the CPU that's the problem, the 1050t has a locked multiplier, meaning it's harder to overclock it, not impossible though. The question is how does a 965 (which can be easily oced to 4ghz) compare to a 1050t (stock). If you're not going to overclock the 1050t I'd say that the 965 oced does a lot better. I'd wait to see though, I'm not sure how the extra cores will fare against the higher freq.

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    If you plan on using your CPU at OC all the time the temps increase the wear on your system and you need to worry about over cooling your system which will cost more
    I barley cn OC my system but matters not when I have Fan control thats speed up the DPU fan and 7 case fans to make sure all my parts last as long as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Podginator View Post
    If you're not intending to overclock I'd still go with the 965, 3.4 will beat 2.8 and the 965 is a black edition CPU meaning it's all that much easier to overclock it, can easily get 3.8 with stock air and stock voltage with the 965.
    If you're not overclocking and you're CPU-bound on a game that runs 3-4 threads, the 1055T will still score within ~7% of the 965 BE. With a single-threaded game, the 1055T might very well exceed the 965BE due to AMD's turbo (3.3GHz) and the larger L2 cache. With a game supporting 5+ threads, the 1055T should win due to having more execution cores. The 1055T is more future thinking. The 965BE is easier to overclock. The 1055T will overclock higher.

    If you're running games CPU-bound, then you need to run at a higher resolution. Unless something changes pretty drastically with XIV's engine, you're not going to be running CPU-bound at 1920x1080, and you'll only run CPU-bound at 1280x720 with a sufficiently fast GPU which goes back to my point that you need to be running at a higher resolution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Podginator View Post
    It's overclocking the CPU that's the problem, the 1050t has a locked multiplier, meaning it's harder to overclock it, not impossible though. The question is how does a 965 (which can be easily oced to 4ghz) compare to a 1050t (stock). If you're not going to overclock the 1050t I'd say that the 965 oced does a lot better. I'd wait to see though, I'm not sure how the extra cores will fare against the higher freq.
    I don't understand your comparison of non-overclocked 1055T to 965BE. Not having an unlocked multiplier doesn't make overclocking much more difficult because upping your multiplier only gets you so far on its own. After that, you're still doing the same tweaks that you have to do on a system with a locked multiplier. I'm not trying to be a dick - just trying to understand the fairness of comparing a non-OC to an OC when the OP said he won't OC the CPU, only the GPU. Just to squeeze as many acronyms as possible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zellot_OG View Post
    $20 dollar differnce between the two. Might as well future proof my rig with the x6...

    I don't want to get an x6 six months down the line.

    So will a 1055t + 5850 slightly OCed get me near 4k benchmark on high res?

    Ati's are easy to OC, they come with the Overdrive software.

    I OCEd my 4890 last night and got around 50 more points on the benchmark.

    5850 will net you around 4000 with an Intel processor. There have been multiple posts with people claiming around 4300 - 4700 with OC'd 5850s. With an AMD, you'll probably still get around 3900-4000 with a mild 5850 OC. The benchmark has already demonstrated that it loves a large cache ala the 980X so a 1055T should get you about 4K.

    I do not have a 1055T in front of me to benchmark but you can expect to come in a little below Celeras with his 1055T and GTX470 (I think he scored somehwere around 4300 if I remember correctly).

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    Getting around to building a new rig, but for the time being I thought I'd pick up the nvidia 480 and pop her in my current rig to see the improvement.

    With the 9800
    http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...01-01-92-1.jpg


    With the 480
    http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...8-07-16-92.jpg

    Pretty happy overall. Only 4G of ram on this system(motherboard is kinda cheap and only supports 4). CPU not OC'd due to just having the stock fan and I'm afraid of an overheat with the 480 in there.

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    Put a new cooler($30-50) in there and OC your CPU, I get just 60 points shy if your setup with a dual core at 3.5ghz and a GTX 460 OC'd to 900mhz.

    Hopefully SE will scrap this bench and come out with something new

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaddix View Post
    Put a new cooler($30-50) in there and OC your CPU, I get just 60 points shy if your setup with a dual core at 3.5ghz and a GTX 460 OC'd to 900mhz.

    Hopefully SE will scrap this bench and come out with something new
    I believe there were 3 different iterations of the FFXI benchmark so i think you might be right and we will see others appear in the future.

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    I'm thinking of getting the i7 860 on 1156 socket. Think this paired with ATI 5850 would hit 4000's in high bench? Probably using 6GB of ddr3.

    Second system, Probably Q8400 or some variant with a 5770, 6GB DDR2 ram. 3000's possible? Might possibly get 5830 on this system if 5770 isn't enough. Not sure if I can OC any of these cpu's or GPU ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questionable View Post
    I'm thinking of getting the i7 860 on 1156 socket. Think this paired with ATI 5850 would hit 4000's in high bench? Probably using 6GB of ddr3.

    Second system, Probably Q8400 or some variant with a 5770, 6GB DDR2 ram. 3000's possible? Might possibly get 5830 on this system if 5770 isn't enough. Not sure if I can OC any of these cpu's or GPU ?
    That's my setup (4 gigs ram here), gets between 4000-4100.

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    That's great news. I think that should be enough to play. I don't think the i7 can be OC right? It has it's own "turbo mode" built in. Maybe can OC the 5850 a bit.. I have a NZXT case that's pretty good with air flow if anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamison View Post
    That's my setup (4 gigs ram here), gets between 4000-4100.

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    Q9550 @ 3.4 Ghz
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    1080p: 3093
    720p: 4535

    Need to get a 5850. The benchmark would stutter every 3-4 seconds for me. Anyone wanna buy my cards? 60 a piece, 100 for both? ;D

    Update with 10.7 and Q9550 @ 3.8 Ghz.

    1080p: 3435.
    720p: 5323.

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    Re posting due to a misunderstanding.

    When running the FF XIV benchmark I get a score of 1900 +/- on low res and a score of 1100 +/- on high res.

    Here are my system specs:
    - Intel Quad Core i7 720 QM
    - 8 Gigabytes of DDR3 Ram
    - ATI Radeon Mobility 5730 - 1 Gig
    - Windows 7 Premium - 64 bit

    Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about, but does anyone know why I am getting such low scores? I know that my video card is mid table for laptops but seriously, only 1900 on low res?

    Somebody mentioned overclocking? I am not Mr. Computer but can you even overclock a laptop? Also somebody mentioned what is my bottlekneck? Well I am assuming they mean what is slowing my laptop down. That is exactly what I am trying to figure out.

    Any ideas, comments or help would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questionable View Post
    That's great news. I think that should be enough to play. I don't think the i7 can be OC right? It has it's own "turbo mode" built in. Maybe can OC the 5850 a bit.. I have a NZXT case that's pretty good with air flow if anything.
    Yes you can, and potentially in some situations may want, to still overclock an i7. Turbo mode only kicks in when a single core is in use. To simplify, it shuts off the other cores so it can run the remaining core faster. However, if more than one core is in use (either through other programs, or if FFXIV itself uses multiple cores) then it won't use Turbo Mode.

    All that being said, you'll probably be pushing the 5850 as close to 100% as is possible, and I don't believe you'd see much performance increase from OC'ing the CPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noobfl View Post
    Re posting due to a misunderstanding.

    When running the FF XIV benchmark I get a score of 1900 +/- on low res and a score of 1100 +/- on high res.

    Here are my system specs:
    - Intel Quad Core i7 720 QM
    - 8 Gigabytes of DDR3 Ram
    - ATI Radeon Mobility 5730 - 1 Gig
    - Windows 7 Premium - 64 bit

    Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about, but does anyone know why I am getting such low scores? I know that my video card is mid table for laptops but seriously, only 1900 on low res?

    Somebody mentioned overclocking? I am not Mr. Computer but can you even overclock a laptop? Also somebody mentioned what is my bottlekneck? Well I am assuming they mean what is slowing my laptop down. That is exactly what I am trying to figure out.

    Any ideas, comments or help would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers
    Video card drivers updated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questionable View Post
    That's great news. I think that should be enough to play. I don't think the i7 can be OC right? It has it's own "turbo mode" built in. Maybe can OC the 5850 a bit.. I have a NZXT case that's pretty good with air flow if anything.
    i7 can easily be overclocked. I have 2 i7 930s (one in my fiancee's computer and one in mine) running stable and under 70c during stress at 4.0 ghz (up from 2.66 stock) and 4.2 ghz. During normal use these barely ever break 55c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levish View Post
    Video card drivers updated?
    Yeah. All the drivers are updated! I am pretty dumbfounded about this but maybe my score is typical for my specs...

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