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  1. #2781
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    That solves that. Guess I can sell the old cards for 50 bucks, heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jak View Post
    Quoting this because it's piqued my interest.

    If I got a 5870 and were able to crossfire it with one of my 4870s I guess my processor would use the more powerful one? 4870 doesn't support DX11 so I'm guessing if I crossfired 5870+4870 (if its possible) then it would support DX11?

    And is paying 500 bucks for a 5870 on newegg really the best? I noticed some 5870s were 500 while others were 300.. will I notice a huge different?
    From what I can recall, Xfire will use the lower card's settings so it'll be like having 2 4870s if you xfire a 5870 and a 4870, I could be wrong though. I know Nvidia GPUs to be able to SLI they must be at least the same family GTX 4xx / 88xx GTS/GTX so it might be the case that you can't even xfire due to GPUs being from different families (58XX vs 48XX).

    The $500 5870 is the 2gb version vs the $300 5870 that is 1gb. From what I understand you'll notice the extra 1gb of ram in high-res gameplay. If you're going to be playing in HD, want to use max settings and can afford it, the 2gb version is the winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jak View Post
    And is paying 500 bucks for a 5870 on newegg really the best? I noticed some 5870s were 500 while others were 300.. will I notice a huge different?
    The differences are probably normal 1gb ram vs vapor-x types vs 2gb ram.

    Vapor-x has a better cooler than normal, and has a slight factory OC.
    2gb version is generally only 2~10% ahead of the 1gb except in a select few games/settings where 2gb ram can be used.

    Should be fine with just getting one of the cheaper models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyfoxx View Post
    If you're not OCing and not using water cooling / multiple GPUs then yeah 650W should be enough.

    Citing the of the GPU comparison post under the Tech section of the forums, written by Celeras, the Nvidia GTX 460 1gb version is a great performing GPU and it costs ~$250.
    nice.

    and if I get more money to spend. like 300~$350
    is there new options?

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    Okay, so this would put my computer at..

    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 2.66GHz (2.67 GHz)
    8 Gigs of Ram (I'll just say generic brand, nothing fancy)
    ATI Radeon 5870 2Gig
    Windows 7 64 Bit

    That's after upgrade. Right now I just have Vista 64 bit and Radeon HD 4870 x2.

    Will this new upgraded system be 10x better? 1x better? Extremely noticeably better and worth my money? Or should I just hold off until FF:XIV comes out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrrfect View Post
    Can anyone enlighten me as to how much the lane speed affects gpu cards? Specifically in sli on something (470x2) running x8/x8 rather than x16?
    Tom's Hardware has you covered:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...8-x4,2696.html

  7. #2787
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    This game heats up the living room too much to play it.

  8. #2788
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    Something tells me that this problem of uncapped frames heating GPUs to extreme levels is similar to the Starcraft II's uncapped cutscenes killing graphics cards problem. I would be wary about nuking your cards at these heat levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuitton View Post
    Something tells me that this problem of uncapped frames heating GPUs to extreme levels is similar to the Starcraft II's uncapped cutscenes killing graphics cards problem. I would be wary about nuking your cards at these heat levels.
    Meh, main issue is the game pushing GPU's to stress test levels. If the GPU is stable then your fine. Though capping the fps at 60 would not hurt the game at all, and, if anything, improve performance since there is a ceiling to hit. Because atm, even w/SLI/CF enabled, its unrealistic to hit 120fps at "enthusiast" levels and thus causing both gpu's to work overtime for no real purpose.

    Or just build a water cooled system and get 2 gtx 480 FTW's lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuitton View Post
    Something tells me that this problem of uncapped frames heating GPUs to extreme levels is similar to the Starcraft II's uncapped cutscenes killing graphics cards problem. I would be wary about nuking your cards at these heat levels.
    SE: That's what you get for hoping to save some money and overclock a 460/470/5850 to top tier levels.

    ATI/NVIDIA: Thanks, SE. Hopefully our high end sales grow a bit.

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    Might be my imagination but I seem to be getting less of a performance hit forcing AA 8x in nvidia CP and leaving the option in ffxiv config turned off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    Meh, main issue is the game pushing GPU's to stress test levels. If the GPU is stable then your fine. Though capping the fps at 60 would not hurt the game at all, and, if anything, improve performance since there is a ceiling to hit. Because atm, even w/SLI/CF enabled, its unrealistic to hit 120fps at "enthusiast" levels and thus causing both gpu's to work overtime for no real purpose
    I was managing 80~100+ FPS when both my 5770s were at 99% usage (they drop to 50% after a couple of min though, bringing me down to 40~60 fps). Hopefully they will have Vsync or FPS caps (They had to do this in STO because the game tried to hit infinite FPS and caused major overheating).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojimbo View Post
    I was managing 80~100+ FPS when both my 5770s were at 99% usage (they drop to 50% after a couple of min though, bringing me down to 40~60 fps). Hopefully they will have Vsync or FPS caps (They had to do this in STO because the game tried to hit infinite FPS and caused major overheating).
    Hm, I have single 5770 and I get 20-25 fps in adventurer's guild no matter what settings I use >_>.. That can't be normal can it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Hm, I have single 5770 and I get 20-25 fps in adventurer's guild no matter what settings I use >_>.. That can't be normal can it?
    Is that at high res? I have the same card and I do not like what you're saying..

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    I just retested (currently using 10.8 beta drivers that were leaked) and I was still getting 50~60 FPS with 99% usage with CF off. If I faced a wall and turned ig options off I could get 120 FPS and 94% usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojimbo View Post
    I just retested (currently using 10.8 beta drivers that were leaked) and I was still getting 50~60 FPS with 99% usage with CF off. If I faced a wall and turned ig options off I could get 120 FPS and 94% usage.
    ur the only person who has CF working that didnt force it via the Control Panel. But even those that force it aren't getting significantly better performance since its only like 10-20% of the 2nd GPU.. and most who force it actually see worse performance since their game is essentially just splitting the load of one gpu across 2. So i don't get why it works for you naturally

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    I'm getting worse performance with CF on now (wasn't like this in p2). Except for the couple of min after I log in when both GPUs are 99%'ed and I'm over 100 FPS (didn't happened when I logged in just now with 10.8 drivers, but happened every time I logged in with 10.7a, at least after I started running fraps to see FPS)

    EDIT:: Just re-enabled CF with 10.8 and spent 1min (timed from screen changing) with 70~110 FPS and 77~88% usage each then they decided it was enough and went back to 50% each ;;

  18. #2798
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    Well, I managed to get a 4691 High, 5686 Low with my new build:

    i7 930 (2.8GHz)
    ATI HD 5870 1GB
    6GB DDR3-1600
    1TB HDD

    No OCing, but I'm interested to see what numbers I could achieve by doing so. Does anyone know what amount you can easily add to your score by doing standard OCing, not stressing the system too much? Also, does tweaking Win7 help at all with the scores? The benchmark was the first thing I ran once I got Win7 and my vcard drivers installed.


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    Should be able to easily get over 7k on low with 5870 and 920 after OCing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolmen View Post
    Well, I managed to get a 4691 High, 5686 Low with my new build:

    i7 930 (2.8GHz)
    ATI HD 5870 1GB
    6GB DDR3-1600
    1TB HDD

    No OCing, but I'm interested to see what numbers I could achieve by doing so. Does anyone know what amount you can easily add to your score by doing standard OCing, not stressing the system too much? Also, does tweaking Win7 help at all with the scores? The benchmark was the first thing I ran once I got Win7 and my vcard drivers installed.
    930 oc to 3.6 will get you approximately 1k more performance on low.

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