The OFFICIAL FFXIV Benchmark & Beta Performance Thread

[Celeras]

Something tells me that this problem of uncapped frames heating GPUs to extreme levels is similar to the Starcraft II's uncapped cutscenes killing graphics cards problem. I would be wary about nuking your cards at these heat levels.

SC2 puts my GPU at 'normal' load levels, like what I would see if I were playing the game.

This shit is putting my GPU at torture-test load levels, as hot as I ever seen it. S'not the same.

[Ferr]

noob question.

If the performance is the same between 1900 res and 1280 res (40-50 in outsides, 20ish in city and below were is crowded) does that mean I have a huge CPU bootleneck (q6600 stock with GTX460). I should have worse performance at higher resolutions but is not the case.

About my temps, it seems like GPU is stable at 60ish (64-66) and CPU at 68

[Jojimbo]

I think you do have a bottleneck with a Q6600 at stock, OC it possible and that will help. (especially those temps, looks like cpu is maxing out and gpu isn't anywhere near)

[Ferr]

yeah I already ordered a new cooler for OCit, problem is I got told my board hates OCs QuadCores and I wont get anything more than 2,7 (a Gigabyte N650i)

[Isla]

Ok, back with some results...

So apparently Cross Fire is wrecking FPS. I have a 5970 using the 10.5 drivers (which are the best for crossfire) and with crossfire enabled I'm getting about 10-20 FPS LOWER as opposed to only using 1 GPU.

I'm playing at 1920x1200 all settings max except no AO and no AA fullscreen and I'm getting about 30-50 FPS.

My specs that matter are i7-920 @ 4GHZ and a 5970 at 900/1225 clocks. Only using 1 GPU currently for those specs.

Let's hope they can get this dual gpu/card thing worked out

[alecrast]

Something tells me that this problem of uncapped frames heating GPUs to extreme levels is similar to the Starcraft II's uncapped cutscenes killing graphics cards problem. I would be wary about nuking your cards at these heat levels.

Let's be clear though, Starcraft II is not killing graphics cards. Crappy engineering is killing graphics cards. If NVIDIA designs a GPU with 250W TDP, then they better be able to dissipate 250W, not simply hope that nothing ever pushes the GPU to that level. That's why I despise software-controlled cooling solutions (e.g. fans) where software can be allowed to override good thermal monitoring. You should be allowed to make your fan run faster, but you should never be allowed to make it run slower than is necessary to keep the GPU operating within spec. I see people blaming Starcraft II and I just want to club them over the head. Is it the fault of the person who unwittingly writes a piece of code that causes a CPU to melt, or the fault of the engineer who designed the CPU, knowing that their CPU could require 150W TDP but only provides a solution capable of dissipating 125W?

[Vuitton]

Let's be clear though, Starcraft II is not killing graphics cards. Crappy engineering is killing graphics cards. If NVIDIA designs a GPU with 250W TDP, then they better be able to dissipate 250W, not simply hope that nothing ever pushes the GPU to that level. That's why I despise software-controlled cooling solutions (e.g. fans) where software can be allowed to override good thermal monitoring. You should be allowed to make your fan run faster, but you should never be allowed to make it run slower than is necessary to keep the GPU operating within spec. I see people blaming Starcraft II and I just want to club them over the head. Is it the fault of the person who unwittingly writes a piece of code that causes a CPU to melt, or the fault of the engineer who designed the CPU, knowing that their CPU could require 150W TDP but only provides a solution capable of dissipating 125W?

Anyway, it was SC2's cut scenes that brought this problem into the limelight.

[Celeras]

That issue isn't even in the same league as this one anyway, SC2 is more of a 'normal load' type dealy when not much is going on... really no big deal at all. Talkin about a 20'C difference between SC2 cutscenes and FFXIV beta3 for me.

[firion]

First off I have to say thank you to all the people at BG, a month ago I'd didn't know my dick from a stick of RAM. Me and a friend of mine put together a rig yesterday.

AMD Phenom 955 3.2Ghz
Zotac GTX 460 1GB
4GB GSkill RAM
Gigabyte 870 motherboard
850W Rosewill PSU
Rosewill challenger case
Green Caviar 500gb HHD
lite-on optical drive


Not to shabby for $731 dollars. My only problem is I cant seem to get the benchmark to run sound. I tried redownloading the benchmark, I believe I have updated all the drivers
and sound works in every other app. So I'm stumped in all my glorious limited computer knowledge. Anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[alecrast]

First off I have to say thank you to all the people at BG, a month ago I'd didn't know my dick from a stick of RAM. Me and a friend of mine put together a rig yesterday.

AMD Phenom 955 3.2Ghz
Zotac GTX 460 1GB
4GB GSkill RAM
Gigabyte 870 motherboard
850W Rosewill PSU
Rosewill challenger case
Green Caviar 500gb HHD
lite-on optical drive


Not to shabby for $731 dollars. My only problem is I cant seem to get the benchmark to run sound. I tried redownloading the benchmark, I believe I have updated all the drivers
and sound works in every other app. So I'm stumped in all my glorious limited computer knowledge. Anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Does it behave any differently if you right click it and "Run as administrator"?

Did you install the Realtek HD audio driver or are you using the driver that Windows provides? Realtek drivers can be downloaded from: http://www.realtek.com/downloads/dow...&GetDown=false

Is your sound set to 5.1? If not, does it make a difference when you set it to 5.1 and try to run the benchmark?

[Katlan]

How is this a media topic? If anything should be tech

[firion]

thanks for the help. I tried all you said and still got nothing, gonna try to reinstall benchmark.

[Celeras]

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3981/17483097.gif

Hard to get comparison shots with the sun/weather constantly fking changing x.x You can still tell if you just focus on the character

[disland]

He seems to get angrier as you increase the AA

[Raffy]

Hello ladies and gentlemen,

If I could get a quick glance from someone who knows a bit about computers it would be appreciated.

Here are the computer's stats that I'm looking at ordering:

Sony Vaio VPCZ1290X

Intel Core i7-620M processor (2.66GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 3.33GHz
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
256GB Solid State Drive with RAID 0 Technology
6GB (4GBx1 + 2GBx1) DDR3-SDRAM-1066

The total cost of the computer with various other things such as the Adobe package and Microsoft Office package is at $3,519.00

Ultimately I'd like to get the price down to around $3,000 while still buying the general programs that I need for school AND while maintaining the integrity of whatever the computer needs to run FFXIV as best possible. Please let me know if you have another other suggestions.

[Katlan]

unless im missing something... it doesnt have a gpu?

[Skyfoxx]

Ok so I think I'm ready for FFXIV, it's a moderate system that i built ~1yr ago, upgraded the GPU and the CPU cooling for OCing.

Mobo: Asus P5ql Pro.
CPU: Q9400 R0 @ 3.33Ghz + Corsair H50 w/ 2x Gentletyphoon 15 P/P.
Ram: Corsair 4GB PC8500 C5.
GPU: GTX465 Step-up from a SC GTX260 (I was being cheap ).
PSU: Corsair 650W-TX.

GPU@ stock clocks, AA4. for both high and low settings
Low:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u.../Benchmark.jpg

High:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...High-Bench.jpg

Since I started OCing I've noticed 2 changes, that if anyone has an idea on what could be causing them I would greatly appreciate it.

1. Resets by software (selecting restart from the start-menu, etc. ) don't work on my PC while in OC mode (PC won't POST unless I do a hard reset), I've been searching the web and can't find anything regarding this.

2. The voices in the benchmark no longer work, all the ambient noise (thunder, rain, etc.) are still there but the actual dialog of the C/S is no longer present (tried running in Admin, changing permissions / re downloading the benchmark and it doesn't work).

[Katlan]

thinking about turning my fan to 100% for XIV, just so the gpu stays under 90c lol

[Kylewhataru]

Wouldn't 100+ fps on a 60hz LCD have massive screen tearing? Or maybe you guys have those expensive ass 120hz lcds.

Skyfoxx - I've seen unstable CPU OC's cause all kinds of weird problems, does it go back to normal when you clock the cpu back to stocks? Did you run a stress test on the CPU to see if it actually is stable? Run some prime95 stress tests. If it's fucking with your ability to even restart from windows it's probably gonna crash in prime95.

Oh, and did you replace the thermal compound that's on the H50? People say it's pretty good compound but some of those units have been setting in shelves forever and that shit tends to dry out, on my H50 the paste was so dry it was nasty, when I replaced the thermal compound my temps dropped by like 15%, that drop in temp may be enough to stabilize your OC.

When my OC was unstable I had weird issues, the most annoying one was I would be playing mass effect 2 (or any game really) for hours, with no problems, then I alt-tab out, and I can't click on anything on my desktop, my mouse still moves and all but when I double click something it just doesn't do anything, lowered the clocks on my CPU a bit and that went away.

[Cooleko]

Since I started OCing I've noticed 2 changes, that if anyone has an idea on what could be causing them I would greatly appreciate it.

1. Resets by software (selecting restart from the start-menu, etc. ) don't work on my PC while in OC mode (PC won't POST unless I do a hard reset), I've been searching the web and can't find anything regarding this.

2. The voices in the benchmark no longer work, all the ambient noise (thunder, rain, etc.) are still there but the actual dialog of the C/S is no longer present (tried running in Admin, changing permissions / re downloading the benchmark and it doesn't work).

General overview of issues from OC. Overclocking is an art that takes patience and a ton of trial and error to get right. Some times you can just take another person's values and it will work for your pc; however, it is not guaranteed to be compatible with your system. To address your concerns...

1) Sounds like a bad OC. lower your multiplier/check your ratios or raise your voltages (dont do this unless you know what you are doing!)

2) Reinstall your sound drivers and your directx drivers the OC wont affect this so the problem lies elsewhere. your pc could have corrupted one of the drivers so reinstalling all of them is a safe start.