The OFFICIAL FFXIV Benchmark & Beta Performance Thread

[Katlan]

30-40c idle is average. If your getting lower then that on idle then something is crazy awesome about your cooler. Most coolers barely affect idle temp's anyways. If your getting 18-25c idle then you must have an ancient cpu that doesn't generate a lot of heat.
I think I saw 29c on a few cores when my room place was freezing, on idle

[shaddix]

Cooleko is probably talking about *idle* idle temps, meaning what it says in your bios after 10 minutes of just sitting doing absolutely nothing. But of course idle isn't what we care about, it's the load temps!

My 1055t sits at 32c with chrome, µtorrent, sabnzbd and a few other TSRs in 27.5C ambients with corsair H50 in antec 1200.
And this is right after running an hour of prime95, dunno what it settles on if I leave it alone for a while. But of course the 1055t downclocks to like 1100mhz when idle

[Katlan]

You want to disable that downclocking feature if your CPU is OC'd. It's horrible for an OC'd CPU to underclock itself & fluctuate in that matter. also can cause the OC to to fail / become unstable much easier.

[TStupified]

Just ran Prime95 for about 20hours on blend and my CPU temp never got past 46c, this is with AMD Phenom II X4 965BE paired up with Coolink Corator DS, not OC'd.

I think there's some OC potential here, but I'm a bit hesitated to do so as I haven't really OC'd any CPUs ever. GPUs are much simplier in that aspect. D:

But I wouldn't mind getting more than 18-22fps on packed areas if overclocking the CPU is they key to success.

[Vuitton]

I've posted about this before, either in this thread or another, but I have come equipped with screenshots this time. I wanted to see what people that may be more knowledgeable than me thought about this. Basically the game runs fantastic outside of any city. I step inside town and my FPS plummets. The thing is, my FPS isn't the only thing that drops, my GPU usage is also half as high in city as it is outside. Does that make sense? Is this an issue with my system or something to do with their optimizations? To me it seems like my GPU should be worked just as hard if not harder in town than it is outside.

Big screenshots under the spoiler:

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http://risen.loztblaz.com/avelle/ffx...rformance1.jpg
http://risen.loztblaz.com/avelle/ffx...rformance2.jpg

Should also note I've tried Catalyst 10.7 through 10.9. Running the game "windowed" at 1920x1200, no AA, buffer size at "resolution" shadow detail "highest" AO off, DoF on (this setting doesnt seem to make any difference) Texture Quality on "high" and Texture Filtering "highest" and I scored 5kish on the benchmark on high. Basically just wanting to know if people think this is an optimization thing or if it's going to stay this way forever.

I'll only "spike" to low fps in the 20s and 30s in towns briefly. Usually stabilizes around 35-40. I have the same settings as you but I have the AA turned up to 4x. I read some of the nvidia people experienced increased fps by turning up their AA, so you should give that a shot and see what happens.

[shaddix]

Just ran Prime95 for about 20hours on blend and my CPU temp never got past 46c, this is with AMD Phenom II X4 965BE paired up with Coolink Corator DS, not OC'd.

I think there's some OC potential here, but I'm a bit hesitated to do so as I haven't really OC'd any CPUs ever. GPUs are much simplier in that aspect. D:

But I wouldn't mind getting more than 18-22fps on packed areas if overclocking the CPU is they key to success.

you have a 965 so just go in the bios and crank up the cpu multi!

[Purrrfect]

800mhz is pretty good for the 470 IIRC. How much voltage do you need for 3.8ghz on your 1055t?

800 wasn't really stable, I usually could only run about 750 and not fear lockups. For 3.8 I have the bios set to 1.4V I think, and the cpu-nb is like 1.2V or something, but hwmonitor shows my cpu at 1.47V, so I'm not quite sure which number to trust. Hwmonitor also has shown my core temps down to like 69*F, when my room is never that cold...

[shaddix]

800 wasn't really stable, I usually could only run about 750 and not fear lockups. For 3.8 I have the bios set to 1.4V I think, and the cpu-nb is like 1.2V or something, but hwmonitor shows my cpu at 1.47V, so I'm not quite sure which number to trust. Hwmonitor also has shown my core temps down to like 69*F, when my room is never that cold...

1055t temp sensor is messed up, you need to add ~13C to the reported core temp. Or use your motherboards socket temp sensor instead. I don't have answer for you about hwmonitor voltage display, but 1.4v for 3.8 is pretty good. What are your load temps? You could probably squeeze 4ghz out of it.(I run 1.5v for 4ghz)

[avelle]

I'll only "spike" to low fps in the 20s and 30s in towns briefly. Usually stabilizes around 35-40. I have the same settings as you but I have the AA turned up to 4x. I read some of the nvidia people experienced increased fps by turning up their AA, so you should give that a shot and see what happens.

Turning up the game to 4x AA doesn't seem to be yielding any better results. On the other hand it doesn't seem to be negatively affecting my fps either. I'd really expect some kind of performance hit here, this seems kinda fishy. My catalyst profile is set to use application settings for AA so I think we're all good there. Maybe I'll continue to play with the settings a bit more and see what happens. Thanks for the ideas.

edit: And I guess I'm a little confused here. Is my cpu really the big bottleneck here? I mean I guess I can buy an aftermarket cooler and work on overclocking but if I get this kind of performance in town with an i7 920 and 5870, I feel really bad for the people out there running anything less...

edit edit: I guess I may have spoke too soon. Adventurer's guild still nets me around 25 fps, but running around town I'm seeing anywhere from 25-45 fps. Mostly in the 30s to 40s though. GPU usage is up from 45% to 55% in town using 8x AA. Think it was around the same percentage when I was running 4x...

[shaddix]

edit: And I guess I'm a little confused here. Is my cpu really the big bottleneck here? I mean I guess I can buy an aftermarket cooler and work on overclocking but if I get this kind of performance in town with an i7 920 and 5870, I feel really bad for the people out there running anything less...

underclock it and test, just need to drop your multi down in the bios. I'm betting that is the problem in town though, I tested multicore performance with my 6core a while back. At 2.8ghz, I saw performance improvements all the way up to 6 cores. At 4ghz, I was capped 60 fps with 4 cores in my chosen test area(below deck on boat at start of LL). This game needs a shitload of cpu horsepower. It uses multicore better than most games, but it still likes high clock speed.

[Ferr]

edit edit: I guess I may have spoke too soon. Adventurer's guild still nets me around 25 fps, but running around town I'm seeing anywhere from 25-45 fps. Mostly in the 30s to 40s though. GPU usage is up from 45% to 55% in town using 8x AA. Think it was around the same percentage when I was running 4x...

yeah, in outsides I get 60% GPU usage but in cities it drops to half. I think is a normal game problem (im with a GTX 460 here).

About the temps, I was looking into it and I have the feeling that my temps just sucks.
With a Hyper Cooler Master 212+ and a case with 2 fans, I get 40 ºc in idle with my 955 BE.
Playing FFXIV gets me to 50 ºC (with 70% CPU usage), never tried Prime95.
I see a lot of people on the net with similar setups and lower temps :/
it makes me scared to OC much my CPU (I have it at 3,5, but I think I would need to raise voltage for more).

[avelle]

If I wasn't such a chicken shit I would try a mild overclock of my 920 on stock cooling and see if I saw any noticeable increase in fps in town. I bought this setup a year ago with every intention of overclocking but then I didn't buy an aftermarket cooler at the time and now it sounds like a big hassle, especially with being completely inexperienced with overclocking.

[shaddix]

If I wasn't such a chicken shit I would try a mild overclock of my 920 on stock cooling and see if I saw any noticeable increase in fps in town. I bought this setup a year ago with every intention of overclocking but then I didn't buy an aftermarket cooler at the time and now it sounds like a big hassle, especially with being completely inexperienced with overclocking.

I found my corsair H50 extremely easy to install, much better than my experiences with big air coolers.

[Jojimbo]

I think (almost) everyones GPU usage drops in cities, along with CPU usage going up.

EDIT:: lol, page late

[Ferr]

my CPU usage doesnt really go much higher in cities, maybe from 50-60 to 70ish, but is sure not capped.

[Cooleko]

If you were able to build your own PC by connecting the dots and filling in the holes with the correct shapes you are fine for OCing as well. Do not be afraid to overclock the i7 series as they are easily overclocked and do most of the work for you. Of course if you are overclocking you need to get a cooler. This is less than 100 and if you built your pc in the first place you should not have concerns about placing a cooler over your processor. As always I would recommend the Corsair H50 or H70, I have used both and they are very nice.

Idle temps are the temperatures of your computer when it is not doing anything. They are barely above room temps if you have a good cooler and if you are seeing too high of temps there is something wrong with the cooler (usually the thermal paste application).

Load temps are when the CPU is at 100% load and has been for a significant period of time, You really do not want an I7 at load temps greater than 85c. Running at 80c+ is not healthy for your system but the odds are you will not be using your PC at 100% usage so if a stress test hits 80c+ (but never greater than 85) your gaming typically wont.

If your CPU can boil water your doing something wrong and need to stop.

[TStupified]

Has anyone else seen higher temps after installing the 260.63 drivers? Personally using Gigabyte GTX460 1gb OC model.

Before installing those I had my GPU running at 775MHz CC (715 default), 1550MHz SC (1430 default) and memory at 1900Mhz (1800 default), fan speed being at 60% all time. And my GPU temps never got past 67c in FFXIV.

Now with the new drivers, GPU tuned town to 730/1430/1800, I've gotten max temp of 74c in FFXIV.. with the same ingame settings I was using before. So is this normal or is there something fishy going on?

The thing is, I installed those drivers 2 days ago and my system went sort of nuts later that day and I thought my mobo had died on me, because the PC just totally froze, even in BIOS after like 2mins of starting the comp. Yesterday though, I removed all the cords going to the mobo, as well as ram, put them all back on and voila, the system worked again. Also ran prime95 for like 20hours without any errors. So I started wondering, it probably wasn't the mobo after all since the comp is working normally now, usually when you lose a mobo it's gone for good, so maybe it was the GPU after all..?

Though I know from experience, that if your GPU is starting to die, it's usually not completely jamming your system, but causing artifacts and shit like that on your screen. But then some people say that if the GPU isn't working properly, it can very well jam your shit pretty badly.

So as you can probably understand, I'm currently being quite sceptical here, because the problem that seemed huge first, was gone the next day without really doing anything.. and now that I've seen my GPU temps being like 8c higher than they were before, I've started to worry. So any ideas, are the new drivers causing the higher temps or is it, at worst, a sign of maybe the GPU not working correctly?

I know the crashes I had before can't be caused by drivers though, at least not all of them, cause I crashed in BIOS and Windows hasn't even loaded the drivers at that point.. so I'm fucking clueless.

[shaddix]

my CPU usage doesnt really go much higher in cities, maybe from 50-60 to 70ish, but is sure not capped.

Cpu usage doesn't need to be capped for that to be the bottleneck, if you were using a dual or triple core processor your cpu usage would likely be capped in cities. FFXIV can't make 100% use of 4+ cores, even though it does use some amount of up to 6 cores(from my testing, it might use more).

@TStupified: I haven't played it since the new drivers came out lol

[TStupified]

@TStupified: I haven't played it since the new drivers came out lol

Ease my pain and go test it then! D:

[Ferr]

Cpu usage doesn't need to be capped for that to be the bottleneck, if you were using a dual or triple core processor your cpu usage would likely be capped in cities. FFXIV can't make 100% use of 4+ cores, even though it does use some amount of up to 6 cores(from my testing, it might use more).

godamnit youre making me hate the game even more xd

Has anyone else seen higher temps after installing the 260.63 drivers? Personally using Gigabyte GTX460 1gb OC model.

I have the same card and I get the same temps as always with the new drivers :/