The OFFICIAL FFXIV Benchmark & Beta Performance Thread

[naninani]

For that high of an overclock, are you using liquid? Or is that just a normal overclock for that CPU?

Air cooled with a Cooler Master Hyper212
For such a simple design, this thing is fantastic

[Deadgye]

Every 920/930 should be able to hit 3.6+ on air with ease. You only really start hitting trouble around 4.0~

[Cayos]

I'm at 45/50 idle with a V8 on my Q6600... I think I need to reapply my thermal paste. Only overclocked to 3.0 .

[Scary]

I been trying to find out whether or not ff14 will support multicore + hyperthreading methods. Any confirmation/denials? I asked a friend about multicore suuport and he said Tanaka stated it will not support multi-core. Personally, i think he's mistaken, because a game released these days not support multicore seems kinda stupid, even if it has to be ported to the ps3. I could be wrong though.

[ranmas]

I know alot boards that do, because spam bots tend to like to hop on a board, post a image that "gets people cookie info" and or other relevant info to spam you even more, in the long run its more of a protection for you, not against you ;/

can't say that I've seen too much of that. I haven't exactly joined a lot of new boards recently either. I know most Captcha's are fairly easy to beat however and only a few offer any kind of real difficulty to newer bots. They need to implement some kind of reality check, as normal images are too easy to defeat.

[Cayos]

Just got my new GTX 470. I went from this:

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Low
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...markLowNew.png

High
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...CHMARKHIGH.png

To this:

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Low
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...kLowGTX470.png

High
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...HIGHGTX470.png

Was kind of hoping for a bigger increase, I think my CPU is holding me back. GPU usage was mostly at 50-70%, with the occasional 30 second 90-100% spurt.

[bluefan]

I been trying to find out whether or not ff14 will support multicore + hyperthreading methods. Any confirmation/denials? I asked a friend about multicore suuport and he said Tanaka stated it will not support multi-core. Personally, i think he's mistaken, because a game released these days not support multicore seems kinda stupid, even if it has to be ported to the ps3. I could be wrong though.

Well, I'm not in alpha (or beta....yet >.>), but I've monitored the CPU usage while the benchmark runs. I have a quad, and from what I've noticed, it spreads across all my cores pretty nicely. And quad cores are shown and proven to get bigger numbers in the benchmark Low test.

And I think your friend might've rememberd what Tanaka said incorrectly. Tanaka never said it would not support it, just that it didn't at that moment. And he's also said that like Nvidia, they were working closely with Intel, so there's a chance they'll take advantage of hyperthreading and the other instructions exclusive to Intel chips.

I think we'll get a better picture though once people start ripping apart the beta client. Though I think more people are concerned more about SLI/Xfire support.

[Gulkeeva]

yeah its your cpu holding you back.

Your cpu isn't feeding the video card fast enough per say

and E3 mentioned a report by famitsu/eorzeapedia? that they were working with intel to optimize multi processor support for the game, what i want confirmation on is if it will support sli/crossfire now ;/

[Eyedea-Seraph]

K so i am thinking of grabbing my GTX 480 in about 2 weeks and running it with my 260 scc as dedicated Phys-X now my question to you all is will my Ultra LSP 750w PSU be enough to handle both cards ....i am think it might be best that i upgrade to 1000w PSU + but dunno if i am just wasting money, check my sig for other components. I will be also getting a Corsair H50 water block kit to O/C my setup to 4.0ghz and probably gonna just pick up 64mb SSD for my OS + FFXIV and then have my 1TB for everything else.


I understand i dont need all this for FFXIV, so you dont need to tell me about how i dont need to upgrade i really just want to build a dream RIG for myself and so am wondering, TY for your input.

cheer~Eye

[actarus]

I think you'll be ok with your 750W PSU !

[Aurelius]

K so i am thinking of grabbing my GTX 480 in about 2 weeks and running it with my 260 scc as dedicated Phys-X now my question to you all is will my Ultra LSP 750w PSU be enough to handle both cards ....i am think it might be best that i upgrade to 1000w PSU + but dunno if i am just wasting money, check my sig for other components. I will be also getting a Corsair H50 water block kit to O/C my setup to 4.0ghz and probably gonna just pick up 64mb SSD for my OS + FFXIV and then have my 1TB for everything else.


I understand i dont need all this for FFXIV, so you dont need to tell me about how i dont need to upgrade i really just want to build a dream RIG for myself and so am wondering, TY for your input.

cheer~Eye

I think a 480 under load plus another GPU + all the other things that draw power might be a little much for a 750W PSU. XIV on high res would certainly qualify as a heavy load application and I've seen test results showing a GTX 480 pulling 392W all by itself. I just saw a chart putting a GTX 260 at 119W idle under Vista w/o Aero, 270 under load (not sure how much load you'd be putting it under as a dedicated physX processor, but it gives you a ballpark.) So split the difference and call it 200W under load for the 260. That puts you at 500-600W just from your GPUs. Throw in processor, fans, drives, etc. and 750W probably isn't going to cut it.

I didn't notice any difference running the benchmark from my SSD as opposed to HDD, but hell...SSDs are neat. You know the little Windows song that plays when you load Win7 and it arrives at the desktop? It takes about the full duration of that little song for my rig to finish loading at that point. Zippy SSDs are zippy.

Water cooling is also neat. Just keep in mind if you're overvolting that your VREG is going to be the bottleneck. My VREG, overvolted to support a 4ghz OC, was idling at 78C with stock heat sink and hit 98C after a couple of minutes of IBT torture testing. Just something to watch for as you tweak and fiddle.

[Eyedea-Seraph]

I think a 480 under load plus another GPU + all the other things that draw power might be a little much for a 750W PSU. XIV on high res would certainly qualify as a heavy load application and I've seen test results showing a GTX 480 pulling 392W all by itself. I just saw a chart putting a GTX 260 at 119W idle under Vista w/o Aero, 270 under load (not sure how much load you'd be putting it under as a dedicated physX processor, but it gives you a ballpark.) So split the difference and call it 200W under load for the 260. That puts you at 500-600W just from your GPUs. Throw in processor, fans, drives, etc. and 750W probably isn't going to cut it.

I didn't notice any difference running the benchmark from my SSD as opposed to HDD, but hell...SSDs are neat. You know the little Windows song that plays when you load Win7 and it arrives at the desktop? It takes about the full duration of that little song for my rig to finish loading at that point. Zippy SSDs are zippy.

Water cooling is also neat. Just keep in mind if you're overvolting that your VREG is going to be the bottleneck. My VREG, overvolted to support a 4ghz OC, was idling at 78C with stock heat sink and hit 98C after a couple of minutes of IBT torture testing. Just something to watch for as you tweak and fiddle.

Ty Aurelius just what i wanted to know, but looks like my buddy is buying my Antec 900,GTX260 and my PSU for 300$ not a bad deal for either of us really, so i would be ok....the phy-x thing was because i didn't want to lose a shit ton on my vid card as i sold it so i figured meh maybe just keep it ...but in the end i will just use the GTX480 and call it a day!

[bluefan]

I think a 480 under load plus another GPU + all the other things that draw power might be a little much for a 750W PSU. XIV on high res would certainly qualify as a heavy load application and I've seen test results showing a GTX 480 pulling 392W all by itself. I just saw a chart putting a GTX 260 at 119W idle under Vista w/o Aero, 270 under load (not sure how much load you'd be putting it under as a dedicated physX processor, but it gives you a ballpark.) So split the difference and call it 200W under load for the 260. That puts you at 500-600W just from your GPUs. Throw in processor, fans, drives, etc. and 750W probably isn't going to cut it.

I didn't notice any difference running the benchmark from my SSD as opposed to HDD, but hell...SSDs are neat. You know the little Windows song that plays when you load Win7 and it arrives at the desktop? It takes about the full duration of that little song for my rig to finish loading at that point. Zippy SSDs are zippy.

Water cooling is also neat. Just keep in mind if you're overvolting that your VREG is going to be the bottleneck. My VREG, overvolted to support a 4ghz OC, was idling at 78C with stock heat sink and hit 98C after a couple of minutes of IBT torture testing. Just something to watch for as you tweak and fiddle.

What?! Are you certain about that wattage usage bit? I'm fairly certain there is a standard on how much wattage a single component is allowed to draw, for it to be released onto the market. And that TDP is 300w.

And from the benches I've seen, a full system with a quad core, it's under 500w. Where did you get 392w from?

Though I do agree 750w won't be enough for a GTX 480 + GTX 2xx GPU system. 850w minimum IMO.

[Deadgye]

There's at minimum a 250-300 watt difference between idle and full load for a 480. It's safe to say they went over 300w.

[actarus]

3500 is damn good for a 4850...

and it's the fanless version with dd3 ( not ddr5 ) ...

[Aurelius]

What?! Are you certain about that wattage usage bit? I'm fairly certain there is a standard on how much wattage a single component is allowed to draw, for it to be released onto the market. And that TDP is 300w.

And from the benches I've seen, a full system with a quad core, it's under 500w. Where did you get 392w from?

Though I do agree 750w won't be enough for a GTX 480 + GTX 2xx GPU system. 850w minimum IMO.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...0_sli_review/7

Second video down shows the card peaking at 485W at 95C under Furmark.

Also, chart here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2585-15.html

Shows 116W idle consumption peaking at 450W.

YMMV, but it's just something to be aware of for potential buyers that beefy PSUs are needed to drive cutting edge gaming rigs. Also, if you go for some the higher end PSUs, some of them come with racing stripes, which we all know makes everything faster ;D

[Aurelius]

I guess this is relevant and is a suitable follow-up from my previous (useless) attempt at helping folks get their SLI/Crossfire rigs working better.

ATI CrossFireX™ technology is only supported for full screen Direct3D or OpenGL accelerated applications on compatible ATI Radeon™ graphics accelerators. Windowed or cloned applications will only be accelerated by single GPU ATI Radeon™ graphics accelerators.

And since both resolution offerings under the benchmark are windowed, that explains why Crossfire isn't working. And it also helps to alleviate any concerns that it won't be working for release. (Personally, I was confident that it would be working for release, but if you've got extra coin tied up in a second GPU already I could see how some folks might be a ltitle nervous ;D)

[Emirii]

Hey guys, Well I decided to go ahead and upgrade anyway because newegg has some good deals and no interest as well, and I want something new to help the pain of a breakup (what better way than go internet shopping?) Please let me know if these things are worth it?

Total 260$ (enough for no interest/payments for 6 months)
AMD Athlon II X2 260 Regor 3.2GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Model ADX260OCGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103873

GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128419

OCZ Special Ops Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3SOE1600LV4GK

My only concern is my power supply, it is a 585W, these are "low wattage" items so I think I'll be fine. This will be a huge upgrade to what I have now (quad 2.2GHz, slow ass MOBO). I have a Radeon 5670 1GB DDR5, 3 HDDs, 2 USB 2.0, 1 CD rom, and a few molex connected fans. I should be alright with this power supply?

Spec
Type ATX12V
Maximum Power 585W
Fans 2 x 8 cm DC Fan
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails 2
PCI-Express Connector 1 x 6-Pin
SATA Power Connector 3
SLI No
CrossFire No
Modular No
Power Good Signal 100-500ms
Hold-up Time 16.6ms min.
Efficiency > 75%
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Overload Protection Yes
Input Voltage 90-130V or 180-264V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Output +3.3V@36A, +5V@36A, +12V1@19A, +12V2@20A, -12V@1A, [email protected]

I am completely perplexed on power supply specs and how much you need, i found a chart and added up all the points and only got a 360W that I supposedly "need" but really, i don't know.

Also I just saw that my motherboard specs on the memory is DDR3 1866(OC)/1333/1066 MHz, but the memory i'm thinking about purchasing is 1600, will it be compatible?

[Purrrfect]

Hey guys, Well I decided to go ahead and upgrade anyway because newegg has some good deals and no interest as well, and I want something new to help the pain of a breakup (what better way than go internet shopping?) Please let me know if these things are worth it?

Total 260$ (enough for no interest/payments for 6 months)
AMD Athlon II X2 260 Regor 3.2GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Model ADX260OCGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103873

GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128419

OCZ Special Ops Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3SOE1600LV4GK

My only concern is my power supply, it is a 585W, these are "low wattage" items so I think I'll be fine. This will be a huge upgrade to what I have now (quad 2.2GHz, slow ass MOBO). I have a Radeon 5670 1GB DDR5, 3 HDDs, 2 USB 2.0, 1 CD rom, and a few molex connected fans. I should be alright with this power supply?

Spec
Type ATX12V
Maximum Power 585W
Fans 2 x 8 cm DC Fan
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails 2
PCI-Express Connector 1 x 6-Pin
SATA Power Connector 3
SLI No
CrossFire No
Modular No
Power Good Signal 100-500ms
Hold-up Time 16.6ms min.
Efficiency > 75%
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Overload Protection Yes
Input Voltage 90-130V or 180-264V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Output +3.3V@36A, +5V@36A, +12V1@19A, +12V2@20A, -12V@1A, [email protected]

I am completely perplexed on power supply specs and how much you need, i found a chart and added up all the points and only got a 360W that I supposedly "need" but really, i don't know.

Also I just saw that my motherboard specs on the memory is DDR3 1866(OC)/1333/1066 MHz, but the memory i'm thinking about purchasing is 1600, will it be compatible?

Not sure about the cpu, I think I saw some charts where it looked mid-road level. I just got that same motherboard though, plan on installing tonight or tomorrow. I dunno about the psu, but it doesn't look like you have any big power hungry devices.

[Emirii]

Thanks for the input, right now my quad core is taking up more wattage than the one i'm thinking about buying, and runs fine. I think i'll be fine, i'm probably going to look for a new memory that is a 1333 though, might be a few bucks cheaper anyway. Thanks!