The OFFICIAL FFXIV Benchmark & Beta Performance Thread

**Gradius** · 2010-07-11 14:09

My last test with HD3870.

720p:
http://i32.tinypic.com/5ckmx1.png

1080p:
http://i29.tinypic.com/r0cox1.png

As you can see, is the minimum config (GPU at least) to get an acceptable 1080p frame/speed.

In other test I managed to get less than 12K in load time, it seems using Intel AHCI (or diskeeper) slowed the loading test.

Gradius

Gentaro · 2010-07-11 14:24

I could need some help with the PC I'm gonna buy. I can't decide what CPU i should take - my choice is between those 3:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965

- AMD Phenom II X6 1090T

- Intel Core i5-750

The X4 and the i5-750 are about 100€ cheaper than the x6 - 100€ that i could invest in something else and I'm not sure if the x6 is thaaaat much of a change compared to the x4.
The i5-750 shows good results, but replacing it at a later point isn't possible without getting a new mainboard as well.

The rest of the system should look like this:

Radeon HD5870
4GB DDR3-1333
Windows 7 64bit

Opinions?

**Gethsemane** · 2010-07-11 14:29

I know nothing about Intel processors except that they perform slightly better than their AMD counterparts but you pay out of your ass for it. If I were you though I would go with the Phenom II x6 1055. That extra .x something isn't going to make that much of a difference and price wise it doesn't make sense to buy the 1090 chip for only a few more MHz.

Newegg:
1055T 2.8 GHz $199.00 (Let's you spend another $100.00 towards something else)
1090T 3.2 GHz $295.00 (Spending like $20.00 dollars per GHz over the 1055T - It's not priced right)

I believe in paying a fair price for everything that I buy electronically. But I am a number cruncher by heart. I usually divide everything up per MHz, per FSB, per MB/GB to see where I am getting the better deal and being more cost effective. It's great to always buy the BEST stuff. But then I woke up and won't settle for overpriced hardware anymore. Up to you man.

Everything else sounds great though. Intel people can chime in on that i-5 but I've been AMD all my life so I don't know nothing about it

Only exception I ever made to AMD was buying the Dell I have that has a Penitum 4 3.0ghz 630 prescott in it.

Which by the way I spent 3 hours going through Craigslist ads to find a computer similar to mine and all I found are even crappier ones that are overpriced lol or the lowest core 2 duo/dual cores for like 350.00$, again overpriced as most just had the integrated card. I really should get into the computer business, I could be making a lot of money around here.

**Katlan** · 2010-07-11 14:30

I know character creation/select screen was 60fps capped, but I'm getting a little concerned the game may stay 30fps/capped and not allow sli/crossfire in the end. figured it woulda been changed for beta. I know nothing about programing, but these changes would seem rather significant to code or w/e it would take to implement

Gentaro · 2010-07-11 14:32

and what makes the Phenom II x6 1055 the best choice? ^^

**Gethsemane** · 2010-07-11 14:49

Originally Posted by Gentaro

and what makes the Phenom II x6 1055 the best choice? ^^

Cost efficiency. But if you have the money and want to spend $100.00 more instead of putting it towards something that is up to you. I am just telling you the better price.

Newegg:
i-5 750 2.66GHz Quad Core $199.00

Waste of money. Same price as AMD's 6 core. Go with the 1055T if you want to be efficient with your money, or pony up and pay the extra $100.00 for the 1090T.

**GSDragoon** · 2010-07-11 14:51

Originally Posted by akiraokami

You think you know how to work a computer is probably closer to what you really mean.
Sure other people are having the same problem, this doesn't mean it's client side, it can just as easily mean you, and the very few other people who posted having the same problem as you, also have the same problem on your computers.

Anyway,

My computer is a piece of shit, and I was able to run with almost everything on except for Ambient Occlusion and Depth of Field, this seems to be true for several others as well.

Of course it's possible that Ambient Occlusion and/or Depth of Field is broken, turn them off, try again, did it solve your problem? hurray for you, did it not solve your problem? oh well, guess you just gotta shell out more money then or keep complaining about the client.
But seeing as how you had the ability to test this at all, log in to the beta site, then report feedback "Yeah I experienced soandso with soandso setup" you know.. so that SE can actually look into the problem, and have a reason to fix it, instead of believing that you're somehow they're going to read your brain and fix it for absolutely no reason, then again, maybe you did tell them, but I certainly didn't see the post on the feedback forums myself.

Unless it's happening to everyone there has to be something with his setup that's causing this. A particular hardware/software/driver setup could be causing this. If SE's QA department doesn't have this setup, then the only way to get this addressed to to post it in the beta forums. This is part of what beta testing is about. Introduce the game to different setups that they normally don't use.

**Gethsemane** · 2010-07-11 15:02

Okay so I found this gem for about $80.00 what do you guys think?

HP xw4400 Workstation. I don't think it has PCI-E 2.0 which I kind of need but it does have a core 2 duo which may up my fps over my Pentium 4 3.0 GHz but it's only 2.4 GHz core 2 duo... hmm.

Advantages: Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz 4MB LS Cache(Old has Pentium 4 3.0 GHz 2MB LS Cache, 1066 MHz Bus (Old has 800MHz) Upgradeable to 8GB Memory (Old only goes up to 4GB same type ddr2 667MHz) and if I am reading this correctly on that site it has 2 PCI-E x16 slots... could mean 2.0 or at least crossfire 5770 capability.

**sruon** · 2010-07-11 15:03

Originally Posted by Katlan

I know character creation/select screen was 60fps capped, but I'm getting a little concerned the game may stay 30fps/capped and not allow sli/crossfire in the end. figured it woulda been changed for beta. I know nothing about programing, but these changes would seem rather significant to code or w/e it would take to implement

As I said multiple times, and I don't claim to know anything but I believe strongly they can't do 3D with 30 fps, they keep claiming we'll be able to get 3D with Nvidia equipement, and if it's the one I believe it is, it is strictly 120 fps (60 fps both eyes), now I don't know if they made some fucked up deal with Nvidia to do 60 fps (30 fps both eyes).

Again I don't claim to know anything, just saying.

**Jojimbo** · 2010-07-11 15:13

Just because it has 2 PCI-E slots doesn't mean that CF will be any good, both slots need to be able to run at x16 during CF. If one drops down to x4/x8 then you will either have no gain or lose performance.

Also, I think it's been said, but 1055T = 1090T except 1090 is clocked higher by default.

Beta supports CF when running fullscreen btw.

**BlackheartX** · 2010-07-11 15:18

Originally Posted by Jojimbo

Just because it has 2 PCI-E slots doesn't mean that CF will be any good, both slots need to be able to run at x16 during CF. If one drops down to x4/x8 then you will either have no gain or lose performance.

Also, I think it's been said, but 1055T = 1090T except 1090 is clocked higher by default.

Beta supports CF when running fullscreen btw.

1090T is just easier to overclock and has an unlocked multiplier.

**akiraokami** · 2010-07-11 15:24

Originally Posted by GSDragoon

Unless it's happening to everyone there has to be something with his setup that's causing this. A particular hardware/software/driver setup could be causing this. If SE's QA department doesn't have this setup, then the only way to get this addressed to to post it in the beta forums. This is part of what beta testing is about. Introduce the game to different setups that they normally don't use.

He's quite insistant it's not his setup though, and that the client is entirely at fault.
Which brings me to my point, if he doesn't post it in the beta forums, SE will not know about the problem, and will therefor do absolutely nothing to fix it.
Afterall, how can they fix something they don't know is broken?
Nothing wrong with posting it to other forums afterwards though, but first step, inform SE so that can do something about it, second step, inform the masses/get informed that your setup isn't as awesome as you might think.

But maybe I'm wrong and he did post it to SE, and that he just happens to be a different region than me and thus I can't see the post (at least as far as I can tell, they've made it so we can't see other regions posts).

**Gradius** · 2010-07-11 15:27

They need to support Crossfire/SLI if they really wants 3 monitors and go 3D.

Since they already showed a demo running on that config, the programming part must be there, is just not available on this benchmark.

**Katlan** · 2010-07-11 15:33

Originally Posted by Jojimbo

Just because it has 2 PCI-E slots doesn't mean that CF will be any good, both slots need to be able to run at x16 during CF. If one drops down to x4/x8 then you will either have no gain or lose performance.

Also, I think it's been said, but 1055T = 1090T except 1090 is clocked higher by default.

Beta supports CF when running fullscreen btw.

If CF worked in full screen, would that be the same for SLI then?

**Evanos** · 2010-07-11 15:45

Can get a lot of value out of cost from this I7-730. $199 at Microcenter and can pretty easily get it to 4.0 ghz. http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0331303
Multiplier is locked at 21 on most motherboards and 22 on some, but still pretty easy to tweak it way up there. Only reason that this would cost significantly more than an AMD setup is the motherboard.

Originally Posted by Gethsemane

Cost efficiency. But if you have the money and want to spend $100.00 more instead of putting it towards something that is up to you. I am just telling you the better price.

Newegg:
i-5 750 2.66GHz Quad Core $199.00

Waste of money. Same price as AMD's 6 core. Go with the 1055T if you want to be efficient with your money, or pony up and pay the extra $100.00 for the 1090T.

**millionsknives** · 2010-07-11 16:35

Hey all,

Just wondering if someone can clear this up for me. I've read through most of the thread but no-one seems to have my card or one similar with my core, so finding it hard to compare. My screens 1600x900 so I cant run the high settings, but at 720 my score is:

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m...101052PMbm.jpg

I know I don't have a gaming rig per say, its a laptop after all, circumstance etc. But according to this I cant even play FFXIV, I thought my system would at least get to 2000. The CS runs without any lag at all.

The driver update to get my ATI 5650 running the benchmark and not just crashing was not a laptop driver but a desktop one. The ATI website says to use your laptop manufacturers website for graphic card updates, and Dell havn't released one recently. I notice my computer now lists '5600/5700 series' as my card rather then the specific model as it did before. Is this whats giving me a lower score? Or is 1560 really all I can expect?

System Specs:

Spoiler: show

Thanks for any response to clear this up. If my system really is just weaker then the minimum for FFXIV, I'm a sad panda.

**Zeh** · 2010-07-11 16:37

You should be able to run it... With a score of 2200 at high, I get 20-50 fps. Benchmark is pretty shitty. It wont be perfect for you but it won't be impossible to run either.

**Gethsemane** · 2010-07-11 16:38

Originally Posted by millionsknives

Hey all,

I know I don't have a gaming rig per say, its a laptop after all, circumstance etc. But according to this I cant even play FFXIV, I thought my system would at least get to 2000.

The CS runs without any lag at all.

Highlighted the most important part that I think will matter in the end for anyone running in low settings, with features turned on or off. I think you will be fine. Wait 2 months and see

Unless you get invited to the Beta. I had a ATI 2400 Pro lol... and the cut scene was laggy as hell. So upgraded to ATI 5770 and there is 0 lag whatsoever. However I do have a really high Load Latency. So my problem will be loading into instance/changing zones/viewing cut scenes. BUT, more than likely it will be optimized by retail. Even if it isn't least I should be able to run 15-25 fps on 720p.

**Murureru** · 2010-07-11 18:00

Building new PC tomorrow when the motherboard arrives, will run the bench and post scores for reference.

i7 920
GA-X58A-UD5
6GB DDR3
5850

**Firehawk** · 2010-07-11 18:33

Hey um, I have a quick question, I have an i7 920 with x2 GTX 285's running in SLI, I used to get around 2800~3000 score in the benchmark, Now when I tried this dll thing to try SLI/Fullscreen I got a score of 32xx.

Is this normal? thing is... I checked the nV CP & SLI should be activated but when I checked my hwmonitor which was on the whole time it shows me that 1 GPU did peak at 76 degrees while the other GPU didnt even go above 48, I'm confused, Is SLI even running when I tried the benchmark?

Thanks!

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