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    Quote Originally Posted by Metafox View Post
    Is it the voltage increase itself that causes the cpu to wear out more quickly? Or is it the additional heat that results from the voltage increase? (I.E. is there any danger with increasing the voltage as long as the load temperature is ok?)
    Yea its the heat thats generated that kills the life of the cpu more than the extra voltage itself i'm sitting on a D0 i7 930 @4.399 and idle its only 25c and load like 50c under water a.k.a water cooling ...With stock cooler at idle was 40 and load was 70 at stock clock setting rofl what a joke for a stock cooler... like to add also if you dont know what your doing yea voltage can fry a chip if you over volt it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metafox View Post
    Is it the voltage increase itself that causes the cpu to wear out more quickly? Or is it the additional heat that results from the voltage increase? (I.E. is there any danger with increasing the voltage as long as the load temperature is ok?)
    Increasing voltage will always raise heat (i.e. it still does exists), what changes is how /fast/ your cooling unit will transfer it. Good unit = won't crash since it won't have time to overheat. Bad Unit = crash


    I don't really know what makes it wear out, but it's a little of both.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    That link doesn't mean much to me because it doesn't seem to compare with any desktop GPUs, which I'm more familiar with. But you sound like you know your stuff with MBPs.
    You went further down the page and looked at how the GPU performed on certain games? Granted the results they provide aren't too specific, but it should give you a general idea of how it would perform. If you click on the numbers for the FPS under each benchmark test, which are highlighted it'll give you a few detailed specs about CPU speed, GPU, and memory.

    I might have been a little too generous with my estimates, and no way to know how well it'd perform on the retail version until it comes out. It's important to note that SE has recommended specs for 14 set at a 512MB for the VRAM. With the 320M onboard graphics being 256MB "shared" memory with the system ram you're running into trouble. Obviously it doesn't meet the requirements in the graphics department. However, the 13" MBP does meet the other requirements for the game such as CPU and RAM. The MBP and any current laptop won't really be a permanent solution for playing FFXIV. If your friend can stand playing with sub-par graphics and some stuttering until the PS3 version is released then it is a solution if he can't afford anything else.

    My MBP will be delivered within the next week and if I can get my hands on another copy of Windows 7 I'll bootcamp it. If I can get it bootcamped then I'll run the benchmark and post results, but I can't promise anything.

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    Damn all your CPU's run cold lol, Maybe the thermal paste wasnt applied correctly to my Noctua, but my i7 965X (3.2 @ 3.875) idles around 40-43C and under load goes to about 60-70C for anything Ive tested yet (rarely goes over 70C)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    Damn all your CPU's run cold lol, Maybe the thermal paste wasnt applied correctly to my Noctua, but my i7 965X (3.2 @ 3.875) idles around 40-43C and under load goes to about 60-70C for anything Ive tested yet (rarely goes over 70C)
    Air cooler yes like Corsair A50 or Coolermaster V8 type Cpu cooler yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mife View Post
    Air cooler yes like Corsair A50 or Coolermaster V8 type Cpu cooler yes?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608018

    But i also don't have a fan controlling app, I just let it go on auto. It does a great job, under load (for ex) Just Cause 2 doesnt break 70C. but it does peak here and there. Like will be idling running FireFox and will see it jump to 54C (for ex) for a sec before going back down to 42-44. Don't think it broke 62C w/ FFXIV beta at 1080p max so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608018

    But i also don't have a fan controlling app, I just let it go on auto. It does a great job, under load (for ex) Just Cause 2 doesnt break 70C. but it does peak here and there. Like will be idling running FireFox and will see it jump to 54C (for ex) for a sec before going back down to 42-44. Don't think it broke 62C w/ FFXIV beta at 1080p max so far
    ah nice looks like a really nice push pull cooler setup you got what type TIM did you end up applying to it the shit that came in the box for it or you end up buying some different stuff to apply on it? From my luck its best to buy a better TIM than what comes with most coolers .. Like OZC freeze or IC diamond etc etc really good shit there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mife View Post
    ah nice looks like a really nice push pull cooler setup you got what type TIM did you end up applying to it the shit that came in the box for it or you end up buying some different stuff to apply on it? From my luck its best to buy a better TIM than what comes with most coolers .. Like OZC freeze or IC diamond etc etc really good shit there
    Arctic silver 5, the way my friend applied it was by putting a few drops it in the center w/spreads by itself under pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    Arctic silver 5, the way my friend applies it is he puts it in the center w/spreads by itself under pressure
    yea that some decent stuff there only other shit that really is noticeable is IC diamond as i speak temps are going down rapidly after doing a 3d Vantage so if you wanna look at some that stuff its nice but i'm like 99% its conductive or what not so got to be careful when applyin it.. But yea unless your doing like gtx 400 series card you wanna do it a little differently but you got the idea and you said idle like 42-44 and spikes out under load like 67ish ? Might wanna check your Footprint did you apply TIM then pull it off to make sure that it spread correctly b/c for an aftermarket cooler thats a little on the high side seeing how my stock i7 930 stock cooler ran like 40 idle and like 70 load

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mife View Post
    yea that some decent stuff there only other shit that really is noticeable is IC diamond as i speak temps are going down rapidly after doing a 3d Vantage so if you wanna look at some that stuff its nice but i'm like 99% its conductive or what not so got to be careful when applyin it.. But yea unless your doing like gtx 400 series card you wanna do it a little differently but you got the idea and you said idle like 42-44 and spikes out under load like 67ish ? Might wanna check your Footprint did you apply TIM then pull it off to make sure that it spread correctly b/c for an aftermarket cooler thats a little on the high side seeing how my stock i7 930 stock cooler ran like 40 idle and like 70 load
    It runs hot, but idle isn't bad (I think) for basically ,6mhz OC
    I don't think he pulled it off to check, he just sorta rolled around the edges on top of the CPU. And I use a gtx 480SC, w/ I plan to SLI soon w/ a evga 489 FTW when they r available for purchase again. FTW edition is crazy ppl say, full load is like 60C. But I may settle for another 480SC... Kinda waiting to see if/when XIV officially supports SLI.

    I'll need a new psu to SLI so when he works on my comp again I'll make sure he checks the thermal paste, Ty for the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    It runs hot, but idle isn't bad (I think) for basically ,6mhz OC
    I don't think he pulled it off to check, he just sorta rolled around the edges on top of the CPU. And I use a gtx 480SC, w/ I plan to SLI soon w/ a evga 489 FTW when they r available for purchase again. FTW edition is crazy ppl say, full load is like 60C. But I may settle for another 480SC... Kinda waiting to see if/when XIV officially supports SLI.

    I'll need a new psu to SLI so when he works on my comp again I'll make sure he checks the thermal paste, Ty for the advice
    Quick question tho what type motherboard are you using and are you runng the fans to the cpu cooler threw the motherboard ? If you are is there any type of fan controller in the bios you could manually set to 100% fan speed or if not you could also run the fan to a 4 pin to molex connector so you could keep the fans at 100% so you should peak so high and prolly even get lower temps that way .. if you dont mind running the fan at 100% you might wanna check that out .. in my motherboard i had the stock cooler ran to the header on the mobo and set the default fam speed to 100% so wouldnt get much over 37-40 c at idle with dummy oc which is like 3.2 in my bios and underload 69-70 ish just another thought you might wanna try keeping fans maxed out seeing how there only pennies on the dime to replace if burned out later

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    I use a Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI Supported mobo. Not too sure about the bios controlling the fan... Only issue w/keeping it at 100% is I don't game w/headphones so shit can get loud w/fans at max, or I woulda OCd my 480 alrdy lol. I'll check when I get home

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    My i7 920 OC'd to 3.8 usually runs at 30*C idle and ~60*C when running Prime95. I've got a Corsair H50 sitting on it for cooling, with all my fans set to max speed. I wouldn't say your temps are crazy high, or anywhere in the danger range, but I suppose the easiest thing would be to play around with your voltages or try and reseat your cooler.

    I used the 'pea' method for my TIM, check these links, they're pretty interesting (and hopefully helpful):

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    PS: I used MX-3 for my TIM.

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    Pea spreading is the proper method, but you should have used the stock TIM that came pre-applied with the H50. It's Shin Etsu, one of the best available temperature wise and has zero cure time.

    [edit]Not that it matters, just for reference.

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    Maybe its the ambient temp in your room? It is summer so the fans in computers in already hot rooms are just going to be pushing hot hair from outside the case to inside the case. This was a problem for me last year because my apartment doesn't have AC.

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    I used the paste that came from Noctua, the NH-p12 is keeping CPU on stock settings at 42c and under load 60ish, now that is i7 920 C0 so i was wondering on if anyone knew how long to cure before i start overclocking. Build happend yesterday so i was thinking friday.

    also, when O/C a 480w/ MSI afterburner what increments should i raise by for each dial, i.e Core V,Cor Clock, shaderclock ect. and is it a good idea when over clocking i run the fan at 70%+? gets a bit loud lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyedea-Seraph View Post
    I used the paste that came from Noctua, the NH-p12 is keeping CPU on stock settings at 42c and under load 60ish, now that is i7 920 C0 so i was wondering on if anyone knew how long to cure before i start overclocking. Build happend yesterday so i was thinking friday.

    also, when O/C a 480w/ MSI afterburner what increments should i raise by for each dial, i.e Core V,Cor Clock, shaderclock ect. and is it a good idea when over clocking i run the fan at 70%+? gets a bit loud lol.
    According to this the TIM you get with that cooler has no curing time.

    As for OCing your card, I've seen reports of people going up by increments of both 10 and 5. I used 10 because I'm not exceptionally patient, and I didn't push my 260's very far. Got them to 700 from the from the 650 they came as (had core and shader clocks synced on Afterburner).

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    Quote Originally Posted by plue View Post
    According to this the TIM you get with that cooler has no curing time.

    As for OCing your card, I've seen reports of people going up by increments of both 10 and 5. I used 10 because I'm not exceptionally patient, and I didn't push my 260's very far. Got them to 700 from the from the 650 they came as (had core and shader clocks synced on Afterburner).
    Took your advice (ty) and also looked up the stable Core Voltage that people have been using on MSI Afterburner on the 480 and found out i could safely go to 1100. Did a bit of a tweak to just the Vid card probs do the CPU friday or tomorrow and see what the jump will be.

    so on my old score at stock CPU and GPU on High i got : 4015 not bad.

    now with CPU stock clock + OC to 850mhz Core, 1700mhz Shader,
    2100mhz Mem, and ran fan at 100% since it was my first time :/ and and pretty happy with Afterburner as a program!

    New High /w OC GPU:
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    I didn't run it on 720 (low) because from what i seen so far on low its a lot more dependent on CPU and less GPU.....that and i will only be using 1080p lol~

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    You've got a few dips in that GPU usage other than in the obvious spots (loading/meteor), could have it pinned at max better with a little OC on that CPU Nice temp on the 480 though, your AC must be crankin eh?

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    Hmmm, first time logging in here in over a year.

    I placed a 5830 in my old FFXI rig (C2D [email protected], 2GB RAM) and got 2419 in 1080P and 2524 in 720P. For sure, the processor is bottlenecking (RAM too I suppose), but is it really just that small a difference between 1080P and 720P in terms of performance? Seems a bit weird.

    http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5443/2419f.jpg
    http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1482/2524w.jpg

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