The OFFICIAL FFXIV Benchmark & Beta Performance Thread

**Kaiyoko** · 2010-07-19 18:57

Originally Posted by alecrast

The processor is being used but that doesn't mean it's being properly recognized. A BIOS will often default to some lowest common denominator for greatest compatibility when a processor it doesn't recognize is installed, if it manages to boot at all. Is your CPU correctly identified at POST?

No it was not.

Edit:

This is the motherboard..
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ystar/mobo.png

I'm updating the BIOS after the 14 beta is finished being installed/updated.

**Kaiyoko** · 2010-07-19 19:35

Was looking for a bios update and apparently there is not one for my mobo so it looks like I'm going to need to get a new one. Just going to get a A3 socket one to make sure there isn't any issues.

**Sanhedrin** · 2010-07-19 19:36

Originally Posted by Fanfon

When are prices supposed to fall, and if before XIV's release, by how much?

You might see the standard sales apply to more cards around back to school. Other than that, you might want to think about getting whatever card you want from TigerDirect while Bing cashback is still on (til Juliy 30th), since cashback is 10-12% with them and they have free/$2.00 shipping on basically everything. It's the only thing keeping them competitive right now.

**alecrast** · 2010-07-19 19:38

Originally Posted by Anthonystar

No it was not.

Edit:

This is the motherboard..

I'm updating the BIOS after the 14 beta is finished being installed/updated.

More importantly, what does the CPU tab show for your CPU?

I also missed what CPU you actually installed in the system.

Is your system an HP Pavilion a6700f ? If so, HP has version 5.29 of the BIOS on their website: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/softwar...-1/sp44500.exe

**Kaiyoko** · 2010-07-19 19:45

Originally Posted by alecrast

More importantly, what does the CPU tab show for your CPU?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...nystar/cpu.png

Windows say that it's an Unknown AMD CPU however.

**Sanhedrin** · 2010-07-19 19:45

Originally Posted by alecrast

More importantly, what does the CPU tab show for your CPU?

I'm interested too, though if that's the board I think it is, it's an HP OEM board with no AM3 support, and can only handle CPUs up to 95W TDP. If he doesn't care about possibly bricking that board, I might be able to pull up a hacked BIOS, but my experience has been hit or miss.

**Sanhedrin** · 2010-07-19 19:47

Originally Posted by Anthonystar

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...nystar/cpu.png

Windows say that it's an Unknown AMD CPU however.

It's stuck in idle, which is why it's under 1v and at 800MHz. If it's an OEM board, there's likely not much you can do about it, except for a hacked BIOS. Sorry.

**alecrast** · 2010-07-19 19:56

Originally Posted by Sanhedrin

I'm interested too, though if that's the board I think it is, it's an HP OEM board with no AM3 support, and can only handle CPUs up to 95W TDP. If he doesn't care about possibly bricking that board, I might be able to pull up a hacked BIOS, but my experience has been hit or miss.

Yes, according to the specs on HP's website, it claims a max TDP 95W processor.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...c01357175#N929

Mileage may vary but he could try one of the ECS BIOS revs such as http://download.ecsusa.com/dlfileecs...2/61M29306.zip

All in all, he's better off just getting an AM3 board since they're pretty cheap, either 700 or 800 series chipsets would do wonders compared to what he's got.

**Kaiyoko** · 2010-07-19 19:56

Yeah, I'm just gonna get a new board to make it simpler. Any suggestions?

**Akiyama** · 2010-07-19 19:57

I've heard how some CPUs come in underclocked. Maybe that's what's wrong. I know GIGABYTE has a thing called Power Saver. It basically underclocks your CPU when you aren't using it, just to save power.. but I dunno if that's what's going on with your CPU.

**Sanhedrin** · 2010-07-19 20:04

Originally Posted by Anthonystar

Yeah, I'm just gonna get a new board to make it simpler. Any suggestions?

That depends. Do you want to get something that is good enough to support everything you have as an intermediate board until you get a different build in a year or two after the next big refresh? Do you want to SLI in the future?

Originally Posted by Akiyama

I've heard how some CPUs come in underclocked. Maybe that's what's wrong. I know GIGABYTE has a thing called Power Saver. It basically underclocks your CPU when you aren't using it, just to save power.. but I dunno if that's what's going on with your CPU.

That's essentially what's happening. That's AMD's power saving mode in action though, not the motherboard.. The only modded BIOS I found will wreck your board, so I agree, there are plenty of good, inexpensive AM3 boards out there that will last you.

**alecrast** · 2010-07-19 20:05

Originally Posted by Anthonystar

Yeah, I'm just gonna get a new board to make it simpler. Any suggestions?

There's no right answer to this question. There are plenty of wrong answers, though. It boils down to how much you want to spend, what features you require, and what brands you trust. Any answers you get will mostly be a matter of personal opinion.

Incredibly cheap 890FX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138193

I have this 790FX board from MSI and I've been very pleased with it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130223

Here's the 890FX version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130274

I generally try and stick to one of ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI, not necessarily in that order. I used to be a hardcore EVGA motherboard guy but some of their recent boards have really turned me off to them.

**Kaiyoko** · 2010-07-19 20:31

Originally Posted by Sanhedrin

That depends. Do you want to get something that is good enough to support everything you have as an intermediate board until you get a different build in a year or two after the next big refresh? Do you want to SLI in the future?

That's essentially what's happening. That's AMD's power saving mode in action though, not the motherboard.. The only modded BIOS I found will wreck your board, so I agree, there are plenty of good, inexpensive AM3 boards out there that will last you.

I'm more looking at the intermediate because I don't have a job right now because I'm still in college. I'll be out in an year and hopefully have a job that I can get a better build.

**Gethsemane** · 2010-07-19 20:35

Originally Posted by Anthonystar

Yeah, I'm just gonna get a new board to make it simpler. Any suggestions?

Important note: You are lucky that motherboard has a protective state to run that processor at the base minimum FSB and speed. If it didn't you would have already blown up your motherboard at some point. Definitely a fire hazard. I'd remedy this asap and not have your computer on whenever you're not near it just in case. It'll run find until you get a new motherboard though

Haha, he's trying to save money not spend it... $140.00... DDR3 is too expensive still. AMD also doesn't support triple channel. My opinion anyways is below, also keep in mind your current Motherboard is a Micro-ATX. Not sure if an ATX will fit in your case. I suggest the Gigabyte in that list of 3 below.

AMD 2/2+/3 Motherboards - $70.00 and up. Supports DDR2-1200 RAM, 1 PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot, 4 slots for RAM

Spend the $70.00 saved from buying a $140.00 motherboard and get a better PSU. You don't even have a 6-pin connector that you will need for a 5770 or below. Anything above that requires more connectors. Probably same with nVidia equivalent.

Your motherboard specifications:

Motherboard description

Manufacturer's motherboard name: ECS MCP61PM-HM
HP/Compaq name: Nettle3-GL8E

Form Factor

Micro-ATX: 24.4 cm (9.6 inches) x 24.4 cm (9.6 inches)

Chipset

NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

Front-side bus speed

2000MT/s (2.0 GT/s)

Processor upgrade information
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Phenom with Quad Core technology (AM2+) up to 9600 (up to 95 watt)
Athlon64 X2 with Dual Core technology up to 5600+ (up to 89 watt)
Athlon64 less than 4000+
Sempron less than 3800+

Memory upgrade information

Dual channel memory architecture
Four 240-pin DDR2 DIMM socket
Supported DIMM types:
PC2-5300 (667 MHz)
PC2-6400 (800 MHz)
Non-ECC memory only, unbuffered
Supports 2GB DDR2 DIMMs
Supports up to 8 GB on 64 bit PCs
Supports up to 4 GB* on 32 bit PCs
32 bit PCs cannot address a full 4.0 GB of memory.

Video
Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE
*Integrated video is not available if a graphics card is installed.

Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE
Also supports PCI Express x16 graphics cards

Audio
Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio
Integrated audio is not available if a sound card is installed.

8 channel high-definition audio
Audio CODEC: ALC888S

Network LAN: 10-Base-T

Interface: Integrated into motherboard
Technology: Realtek RTL8201N
Data transfer speeds: up to 10/100Mb/s
Transmission standards:10-Base-T Ethernet

Expansion Slots

One PCI Express x16
Two PCI Express x1
One PCI

**Sanhedrin** · 2010-07-19 20:48

Originally Posted by Anthonystar

I'm more looking at the intermediate because I don't have a job right now because I'm still in college. I'll be out in an year and hopefully have a job that I can get a better build.

Gethsemane's recommendation is basically right on the money. If you had an HP or Compaq where they always split RAM across all four slots, his link is essentially what you're looking at. If you have two sticks in right now (like 2x2GB) there are some good MSI/Gigabyte/Asus around the $50 mark NIB.

**Kaiyoko** · 2010-07-19 20:48

Originally Posted by Gethsemane

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I have a 750w power supply so I don't think that would be an issue.

**Gethsemane** · 2010-07-19 21:02

You should be good to go then just make sure it has that extra 6-pin for PCI-Express, I am sure it does. But yeah that 70$ Gigabyte is all you need. Can always upgrade to a AM3 only DDR3 board when you have the money. That motherboard will do everything you need. Good luck, if you need help building/installing, ask here or PM me. First time can always be a little nerve wrecking.

Thankfully you didn't buy a PC around the time period I did about 4 years ago when Dell was using BTX form factor motherboards. Intel's supposed new standard that never caught on. I can't even put a new motherboard in my Dell unless I fiddle around at a machine shop to make the necessary holes for an ATX board, if it would even fit in the first place.

**Kaiyoko** · 2010-07-19 22:19

Thanks for the help, hopefully I'll be able to get the board tomorrow and get it installed.

**Sephiroth** · 2010-07-19 22:27

I wish I could get in on the overclocking game but unfortunately I have a Dell. I hear it's possible but a pain in the ass.

**Kylewhataru** · 2010-07-19 23:58

Originally Posted by Amele

I have a 775 c2quad which I put at 4ghz, the difference between 4ghz and 3.6 was minimal, incidentally.

it did however put up 3200 high, 4799 low scores with an overlocked 9800GX2, so I'm confident with a modern graphics card (I have pci-e 2.0 support and 2 full 16x lanes on my card, so it could handle a dual card setup too.. not that that helps here.) would put the c2q in the same score range as a core i7 quad.

as for duo versus quad, it certainly loads 4 cores for me, although one leads by 15-20% or so. I can't speak about whether or not it would load 6.

do you have H/T enabled? could try disabling to see if it does anything to your score

I forgot they had 775 quads, but yeah that would be even better in terms of budget... [email protected] + GTX460 = cheap upgrade (your average person is probably on an lga775 c2d) and it's gotta get atleast 4k range @1080p.

You plan on upgrading your card anytime soon? I'd like to see the results.

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