How many people are going to have their Otave ready

[Hookah]

I just said that because the OP and several other posts mis-spelled it the same way and it was bugging me >.>

I also misspelled kraken in my post, but that's apparantly OK.

[Seanr]

This is why I think we need to adopt an internet symbol for sarcasm. Because no matter how obvious it is, some people will always miss it.

I nominate @ as the symbol.

It's not used for anything else!!@

you mean this
http://www.fwi.co.uk/blogs/lincolnsh...arc%20mark.jpg

Sarc Mark

[Max™]

I originally thought the sarc mark was a sarcastic joke, perhaps we need an irony mark as well, use the same symbol as another punctuation mark, but don't tell anyone?

[Pandum]

O T A V E L O L

[tonystigma]

Holy fuck that sig is kinda terrifying.

[Eklm]

Honestly, there is a possibility that the level cap being raised may make both Octave and Kraken Club Drks and Rngs go extinct. Let me explain why.

Currently for FFXI there is a 56 skill difference between A+ skill and C- skill (Drk) and a 76 skill difference between A+ skill and E skill (Rng).

If SE allows skill to progress at the same rate as it does now (A+ gets 5 skill per level while C- and E skill both get 2 skill per level) that would mean the skill values would be as follows at 99:

A+ = 396 Skill

C- = 268 Skill

E = 248 Skill

This means club will be 128 skill below A+ for Drk and 148 skill below A+ for rng.

This will be a massive accuracy loss which I am not sure that added acc from songs/rolls/gear can make up.

[Thorny]

Honestly, there is a possibility that the level cap being raised may make both Octave and Kraken Club Drks and Rngs go extinct. Let me explain why.

Currently for FFXI there is a 56 skill difference between A+ skill and C- skill (Drk) and a 76 skill difference between A+ skill and E skill (Rng).

If SE allows skill to progress at the same rate as it does now (A+ gets 5 skill per level while C- and E skill both get 2 skill per level) that would mean the skill values would be as follows at 99:

A+ = 396 Skill

C- = 268 Skill

E = 248 Skill

This means club will be 128 skill below A+ for Drk and 148 skill below A+ for rng.

This will be a massive accuracy loss which I am not sure that added acc from songs/rolls/gear can make up.

sv mad2 = +68 acc
sv mad1 = +38 acc
feint = -50% evasion..

it's not going to be an issue even without hunters, it's more likely that scaling will make using 'real' forms of damage will be more viable than souleater though

[Chen]

won't this also lead to making polearm SAM less viable?

if the gap spreads out like it did for the gap 50->75, there could be another 30accuracy difference between pole and gkt SAMs at 99, when we're meriting on green colibri

[Jesifromgaruda]

won't this also lead to making polearm SAM less viable?

if the gap spreads out like it did for the gap 50->75, there could be another 30accuracy difference between pole and gkt SAMs at 99, when we're meriting on green colibri

I stopped working on polearm merits and trying to attain a Tomoe because of the level cap raise announcement.

It all depends on if SE wants to keep jobs being able to use a secondary weapon viable or not. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they like jobs to be able to use more than one weapon.

The only thing that scares me is that the Magican trials don't seem to include any weapons outside of each jobs "main" weapon.

So even if the skill gap is close for Polearm and GKT, since there is no Magican polearm for SAM, GKT might be far superior anyway.

[Dooom]

won't this also lead to making polearm SAM less viable?

if the gap spreads out like it did for the gap 50->75, there could be another 30accuracy difference between pole and gkt SAMs at 99, when we're meriting on green colibri

This line of thought also makes me wonder if sam becomes a less desirable merit DD compared to war/drk/drg, assuming their new gkt WS follows the same style of Y/G/K with capping really low on merit level mobs compared to RR/Drakes/Guillo/etc. But SE? Indirectly nerf Samurai somehow? Preposterous

[cdgreg]

This thread delivers.

I for one am hoping that some krekan club owners are very short sighted and sell it for 20-25m because ocave works at 80.

[Priran]

otave

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7066/image00875.jpg

[LinktheDeme]

This line of thought also makes me wonder if sam becomes a less desirable merit DD compared to war/drk/drg, assuming their new gkt WS follows the same style of Y/G/K with capping really low on merit level mobs compared to RR/Drakes/Guillo/etc. But SE? Indirectly nerf Samurai somehow? Preposterous

everyone's also assuming that the things that will be exp'd on are weak to piercing.

also gekko does not cap really low on merit mobs

[Chen]

everyone's also assuming that the things that will be exp'd on are weak to piercing.

also gekko does not cap really low on merit mobs

polearm has an easier to attain 5hit and a better WS, ontop of piercing.

and pretty sure gekkos attack is basically capped with berzerk alone at colibri (or meat, or chaos)

but yea, does seem like this is all going to change

[NynJa]

everyone's also assuming that the things that will be exp'd on are weak to piercing.

also gekko does not cap really low on merit mobs

Prior to greater colibri, nothing endgame xp worthy was weak to piercing:

Sky was neutral
KRT was blunt
Lufaise had the birds, but that shit sucked (on top of slashing resistance)
Uleguerand was neutral.
Caedarva introduced imps and flies, but that was more for 68-73 parties, not so much meriting.
MMJSP was mostly neutral (T puks I guess, sure?)

Am I missing anything?


And in regards to skillcaps, whats the guessed breakdown between A+ and A-?

[isladar]

How is this shit a thread.

Otave. Seriously?