FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread III: Where's my beta invite?

[Ramsey]

So there are separate skill/skill levels for 1h/2h sword/axe? Does that mean you would have to level up a Marauder or Gladiator twice?

Wat.

I don't see anything about 2 handed or 1 handed anything in that image.

[madhater]

Wat.

I don't see anything about 2 handed or 1 handed anything in that image.

There are 2 sword skills and 2 axe skills, true there are no differing labels for them, but that would be the most logical conclusion.

[Sephiroth]

I wish people would make a new thread for beta client issues, it's all we've had for the past ten pages and it's irrelevant to anyone not in the beta.

[Not Kuno]

I picked conjurer and did not like how I had to use MP to do anything worthwhile. Especially since it doesn't recover. I feel like mages are at a distinct disadvantage having to rely on MP so heavily no matter how you look at it because it's not like the damage is even that great. Also, what the fuck do you do with TP? Do Mages do nothing with it? it accumulates but doesn't get used, that makes sense. How about instead of costing MP spells cost TP, I don't know. Fuck.

I think the lag could be affecting my view of the class though, because I'd hit the cast then wait 15 seconds to see the damage then hit the next cast. All the while getting railed on by the mob...

Finally, my HP and MP were not increasing, I was with 195 HP and like 167 MP and I was level 4. My conjurer skill was going up unbearably slow too, I am not even halfway through level 1....

Conjurer has a bunch of problems now:

-Spirit dart was the bread and butter for damage before. It was a bit less than spells, but still did good damage and was faster. Now the damage is complete shit and doesn't seem to improve with INT at all.
-Action points fucked conjurer in the butt. We used to have 20, and spells were 1 or 2 or something. Now we have 8 and each spell costs 3 points.
-Element spells seem to take longer to cast? I still don't understand how the spell wait system works. Also they don't actually seem to be AoE anymore, while in the past they had a huge range.
-Being unable to upgrade HP/MP really fucked over Conjurer. I wouldn't do much MP, actually, but rather I always pumped the shit out of HP and some Vit so I could survive. With HP not going up huge amounts each level, I'm getting curb stomped at level 6.
-No mid/low level weapons or armor anymore. The stores used to sell lots of level 6,11,etc armors/weapons/whathaveyou. Now there is a big jump from 1 to 16 or 21 or something. And I couldn't even find any armor for sale that wasn't the goldsmithing stuff. And speaking of goldsmithing stuff, they don't even have the cool glasses anymore, and all their shit is even more expensive/higher level.
-No fucking money from random shit anymore. I mean seriously, it was hard enough making money as is. Now regular mobs don't drop it and guildleves give much shittier money.

[Ramsey]

There are 2 sword skills and 2 axe skills, true there are no differing labels for them, but that would be the most logical conclusion.

Wow I totally overlooked that somehow, tired and irritated at this nonsense patcher.

They mentioned two handed swords, but I haven't seen any in game yet, but they seemed to talk about it like Gladiator could just switch between 1 and 2 hand, it would be obnoxious to have to level the class twice.

[Zenshio]

They're two of them because the author didn't fuse the pictures correctly.

[Jamison]

I wish people would make a new thread for beta client issues, it's all we've had for the past ten pages and it's irrelevant to anyone not in the beta.

Please. Not to belittle the problems people are having downloading the beta client, but it has taken this thread wildly off course. Would really appreciate it if we could split them apart.

[Not Kuno]

Also I forgot to address the TP thing for Conjurer. Yes you do get to use TP at higher levels, at 10 or so you get Laevtine or something. But it's such a terrible WS it's not even worth having. It's a thunder element move that does a DoT add effect, but the problem is that:

a) It misses. Often.
b) The damage is complete crap.
c) It's AoE, which has gotten me killed very very often.
d) The DoT is very small, and wears off instantly.

[Kyrra]

They're two of them because the author didn't fuse the pictures correctly.

This is correct. Looks like a bad image merge.

[blythe]

I wish people would make a new thread for beta client issues, it's all we've had for the past ten pages and it's irrelevant to anyone not in the beta.

This thread will be pretty much useless for non-beta testers anyway if mods are going to start enforcing the NDA *shrugs*

[qpoiuwer]

Conjurer has a bunch of problems now:

-Spirit dart was the bread and butter for damage before. It was a bit less than spells, but still did good damage and was faster. Now the damage is complete shit and doesn't seem to improve with INT at all.
-Action points fucked conjurer in the butt. We used to have 20, and spells were 1 or 2 or something. Now we have 8 and each spell costs 3 points.
-Element spells seem to take longer to cast? I still don't understand how the spell wait system works. Also they don't actually seem to be AoE anymore, while in the past they had a huge range.
-Being unable to upgrade HP/MP really fucked over Conjurer. I wouldn't do much MP, actually, but rather I always pumped the shit out of HP and some Vit so I could survive. With HP not going up huge amounts each level, I'm getting curb stomped at level 6.
-No mid/low level weapons or armor anymore. The stores used to sell lots of level 6,11,etc armors/weapons/whathaveyou. Now there is a big jump from 1 to 16 or 21 or something. And I couldn't even find any armor for sale that wasn't the goldsmithing stuff. And speaking of goldsmithing stuff, they don't even have the cool glasses anymore, and all their shit is even more expensive/higher level.
-No fucking money from random shit anymore. I mean seriously, it was hard enough making money as is. Now regular mobs don't drop it and guildleves give much shittier money.

Well to be fair, it was way too easy to get money before.

[Katlan]

Well to be fair, it was way too easy to get money before.

money issues solely revolves around the leve CD

[Sirenia]

I was going to try conjurer but now I'm not sure. Which class is fastest to level in the beta right now so I can get as much a feel for the game as possible?

[Zubis]

Getting money seem to be alot easier as soon as you leave the starting area. You can already get about 1,5k gil for some leves at the next camps and if you team up with a friend(s) you can net quite some gil in a short period of time.

[Jamison]

This thread will be pretty much useless for non-beta testers anyway if mods are going to start enforcing the NDA *shrugs*

So far everyone has been allowed to talk about the beta without problem. Links to media/images/videos/music, and some other over-the-line items have been removed/will be enforced.

[Squeaky]

delete me

[MidgarZolom]

So I guess everyone is unable to connect right now?

[sruon]

Just woke up and logged in easily

[Squeaky]

Sorry about that guys. Here's an update image without the duplicate classes

Spoiler: show

http://i25.tinypic.com/2nh01ac.jpg

[Falcon]

Is it that much of a lag clusterfuck?
It was laggy and painful for me last test.

I fear what it would be like this test. I'll try logging on at like...6est, see how it is.