FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread III: Where's my beta invite?

[omegaB]

actually the lack of highlander women irks me more than the lack of female mithra, makes no sense that they have a clan with no women, its unbalanced galka offset mithra, but made no sense that there is a clan of huans with no women. i hope they add them after the fact, but they probably wont.

honestly i think they should have had female rodagaen male miiquote and highlander females, this off camera thing is totally unecesarry.theres isnt even really a good story reason for it in this one

[Loaar]

Honestly, who really cares about gender locks. SE don't need to explain every little bit of reasoning, if they decided for some story reason not to include them, then its their story, and their call.

I don't see masses people refusing to watch Avatar because there were holes in the story, just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.

If it stops you playing the game, then you probably weren't sticking around anyway....

[Jinko]

I am willing to bet that Male Miqo'te will be revealed closer to launch.

Not sure why anyone would want to play as a female gorila though.

[Cureslime]

actually the lack of highlander women irks me more...made no sense that there is a clan of huans with no women.

China.


I think it's dumb that they're listening to trolls and adding playable male Mithra and female Galka at all.

[LD]

w/e happens happens. I made my race choice pretty much when this game was announced; if they wanna screw around with some new stuff, let 'em.

[Kaylia]

Targetable spots sounds like something to look forward to when fighting Beastmen/HNMs.

I hope the action bars can all be placed on the main screen.

Where does it says targetable spot? For all we know, it could be like ToA mobs. Hopefully, it will be more controllable this time around.


And why do you have to break it to get the drop, cant you just take it off the body after it dies?

[Falcon]

And why do you have to break it to get the drop, cant you just take it off the body after it dies?

In some cases, they will be unable to use certain special attacks, the number of items dropped will increase, or the drop rate for certain items will increase.

No where does it say it won't drop if you don't break it. Just increase the drops/drop rates.

[ScGr]

Destroying body parts
By damaging or destroying a monster’s body parts or an enemy’s weapon during battle, a few things can happen. In some cases, they will be unable to use certain special attacks, the number of items dropped will increase, or the drop rate for certain items will increase.

I wonder if this means targetable body parts, or Weapon Skills that give additional effects of destroying a body part. I would lean towards WS with additional effects.

Could Musketeer be getting these WS? Like Leg Aim, Arm Aim, Seal Evil, from FFT?

This opens up a lot more possible arms the more SE allows WS to specialize in.

[Kyrra]

actually the lack of highlander women irks me more than the lack of female mithra, makes no sense that they have a clan with no women, its unbalanced galka offset mithra, but made no sense that there is a clan of huans with no women. i hope they add them after the fact, but they probably wont.

The Highland Hyar are a clan of only men due to the lore of the game. The Highland Hyar come from the city-state of Ala Mhigo. This city-state fell when the Garlean Empire attacked, which wiped out almost the entire clan. The only Highlands that survived were the mercenaries from the city, which seemed to be only the men.

While it is possible that there could have been male and female mercenaries from this city, SE decided to have it be only men.

Details:
http://www.ff14news.com/game_overview/#Hyur
http://www.ff14news.com/game_overview/#Ala%20Mhigo

[Vuitton]

There's a lot of animations and stuff they might have to add, and there might be some race-specific gear or something, plus they might need to make extra hair styles and such (there might only be a few NPCs so not much diversity). I doubt they'd blatantly lie when they said "the races in beta are all the races in the final release".

Male and female are not races they're sexes. So its a not a lie. They answered the question fully. If the question was asking about sex or gender...

Also, what I said covers all of what you're talking about in terms of development of animations, models, and textures. If they knew there is a huge demand for male Mi'qote because of FFXI, then they made a conscious decision to not develop the male Mi'qote for FFXIV. They could have developed the male as they were developing all the other races and genders. They chose not to (according to the info they've released right now.)

This isn't "but there is so many animations, and hair styles, and gender specific gear", because all of the other races and genders received these things. Races and genders aren't "afterthoughts" that they toss in at the last minute. They're planned from the beginning to be introduced at release, or in a following expansion pack. So they could have developed a male mi'qote with all the other races and genders, if they wanted to.

My point is that if they knew there is such a high demand for them, why would they ignore the demand and not develop them with the other races and genders? Then go onto say there will be NPCs, and NPCs do need models and textures and armors and weapons made for them. The ground work is there for them to be playable. Which leads me to believe that there is a possibility of male mi'qote being playable at release. The silence on them is a typical marketing strategy. I highly doubt SE is going to give us every detail about their game this far in advance of release, otherwise there would be no surprises to excite their customers into a fervor.

I don't really consider any of this to be "looking too deeply into things" or "over analyzing", because its common strategy for game developers to withhold exciting details until the last minute. So, I don't believe 100% they will be playable, I am just saying I wouldn't be surprised if they were given the information that has been provided so far.

[Azriell]

–Will most of the races and clans that players can become be available in the beta?

Tanaka: The beta will include all of the races we plan on including in the final release.

If they added male kitties as playable characters later on, Tanaka's statement would still be accurate. Male Miqo'te are neither a new race nor a new clan, they would be a new gender.

It won't affect my character either way, but I would like to see the addition of male Miqo'te, just to make those who want to play as such a character happy. Also, maybe we'd have fewer Manthra this time

[Agito]

If they added male kitties as playable characters later on, Tanaka's statement would still be accurate. Male Miqo'te are neither a new race nor a new clan, they would be a new gender.

It won't affect my character either way, but I would like to see the addition of male Miqo'te, just to make those who want to play as such a character happy. Also, maybe we'd have fewer Manthra this time

Unless you can change races while maintaining your character progression i don't see male Miqo'te or any new races being implemented later on. There would be so many people pissed off by having to start from scratch after 6-12 months of hard work because they absolutely want/ed to play as a male Miqo'te ever since FFXIV was announced.

I'm thinking there will be different melee or regular attack commands unlocked at later levels. The Gladiator has "Light Slash" and "Light Stab" maybe later on they'll get a Hard Slash or something.

[Rustyhagun]

I think you're just over analyzing things. They've already stated in numerous interviews male Miqo'te will only be making an appearance as NPCs, and that they weren't part of the original plans for playable races. When they did try and bring them in, they decided it was too late and just scrapped the idea.

Yah, but what he is trying to say is that they knew from ffxi that this male race was liked. and they made an npc with the wings of the goddess exp.. Now if they started making XIV 6years ago(ffxi already exists) wouldn't you think male miqot'e would have been one if not the 1st models they would have completed? It doesn't make sense. If this was their 1st mmo, then yes I could see the logic.
SE has claimed, and they have been doing a good job, listening to the fan base with XIV. It could be they have been listening to our wants from ffxi days and saying.. "well ffxi is set in stone, let puts it this project(XIV)". I don't buy the whole ..."we couldn't finish the models and animations in time to put them in beta".. like they are now catching on to a 5 1/2yr. demand of male miqo'te being wanted by the fan base. SE is not "slow" mentally.
Either they love to be cock teases and know they will never release males as playable because in their minds "that would be just too cool to have as a controllable race". And saying, "there was no time" means their daft, because they had 6 years to implement them and had no clue we even wanted the race? ok...O_o.... dont think so.

Laughing about it and saying "I wish we could, that would be nice.." means they love dickn us around and know we know they love dickin us around, so they do it. And they know that we(fan base) have an addiction for something that has be sought after for a millennium

Saying this:
Are there any plans to add female Roegadyn and male Miqo'te?
A: Well, the character model designs are finished... But further details regarding their implementation have yet to be decided.

Then saying this:

Is there a storyline or setting reason behind leaving out male Miqo’te?
Tanaka: I think we’ll see male Miqo’te in the form of NPCs. They sadly have been left out of the list of playable races because we couldn’t prepare for them in time. (Translation note: It isn’t clear if this means that storywise they couldn’t fit them in or that model-wise as playable characters they couldn’t include them.)

–So maybe we could see them added in the future?
Tanaka: Well (laughs) I can’t make any promises but it would be nice if we could.


Ok buddy. I'll take that laugh as "Boy you guys really want male cats. If only I new this 6 years ago". *whispers*Hehe..they'll never break me, they'll have to by my game first before they can see their all mighty, precious MiQo'tE O_0....Mhaahahahahahhahahaha!"

I'll keep eating my popcorn..... With butter

[omegaB]

The Highland Hyar are a clan of only men due to the lore of the game. The Highland Hyar come from the city-state of Ala Mhigo. This city-state fell when the Garlean Empire attacked, which wiped out almost the entire clan. The only Highlands that survived were the mercenaries from the city, which seemed to be only the men.

While it is possible that there could have been male and female mercenaries from this city, SE decided to have it be only men.

Details:
http://www.ff14news.com/game_overview/#Hyur
http://www.ff14news.com/game_overview/#Ala%20Mhigo

unless some one killed all thier women less than 20 years ago, it would make no sense that thier women dont exist. Annnd they admitted they intended to make them but then hit some problems and scrapped them, its admittedly not a story element. Far as female rodageyn, these arent really galka, they never said that they had no women. I also wouldnt think theyd look like male galkas in wigs, do human women look like males in wigs? The main prob with introducing start up race/genders later is people didnt have that option when they started.

[Vuitton]

Saying this:
Are there any plans to add female Roegadyn and male Miqo'te?
A: Well, the character model designs are finished... But further details regarding their implementation have yet to be decided.

Then saying this:

Is there a storyline or setting reason behind leaving out male Miqo’te?
Tanaka: I think we’ll see male Miqo’te in the form of NPCs. They sadly have been left out of the list of playable races because we couldn’t prepare for them in time. (Translation note: It isn’t clear if this means that storywise they couldn’t fit them in or that model-wise as playable characters they couldn’t include them.)

–So maybe we could see them added in the future?
Tanaka: Well (laughs) I can’t make any promises but it would be nice if we could.

Yeah, this is what isn't making any sense. You made the models, animations, and textures, but you couldn't prepare for them in time? You've had six years or something, and this didn't stop you from preparing all the other races and genders. But you still have the models and animations finished for the male mi'qote. This is a contradiction, which could mean they're holding information from us.

[Azriell]

Unless you can change races while maintaining your character progression i don't see male Miqo'te or any new races being implemented later on.

By "later on," I was referring to launch.

If male Miqo'te are going to be in the game, I'm sure it's something they've been working on all along (just like with other races/genders). If it's going to be in retail, then they're simply keeping it a secret to surprise us. They have ample reason to want to include male Miqo'te, and they have just as much reason to make a big deal out of it by making it a big announcement later.

Personally, I won't be surprised either way. Devs lying to keep surprises secret is nothing new.

[Nartosar]

The highlanders are just a bunch of homos. They don't need no women.
They live away from the judging eyes of SOCIETY.

[Zerocool]

The highlanders are just a bunch of homos. They don't need no women.
They live away from the judging eyes of SOCIETY.

Or maybe when they want pussy, they just go into town and bang some Miqo'te (pun intended). And once they've got what they want, they return to their nag-free life of solitude.

[Nartosar]

Or maybe when they want pussy, they just go into town and bang some Miqo'te (pun intended). And once they've got what they want, they return to their nag-free life of solitude.

My story is better. It speaks of a fight for freedom!

[Agito]

I'm not playing a Highlander because that would be the same as playing a race that doesn't even have a pee-pee like the Galka..