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  1. #1121
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    Quote Originally Posted by braaaanch View Post
    because you arent completely submerged in the game?

    or at least i think that was their reasoning behind taking so long to make a legit windower.
    That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If that happens and that's the reason I don't know what to say.

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    Originally it was to help prevent the use of 3rd party tools.

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    Nvm...

  4. #1124
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    Quote Originally Posted by viperlasson View Post
    I was alt tabbing during the loading screen, after pushing start.

    edit: Gives me the error on the title screen too o.O
    I never had a problem with it, but I'll check it out for myself.

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    Happening to me too. So, how long until we can expect a XIV windower?

  6. #1126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaossamurai View Post
    Happening to me too. So, how long until we can expect a XIV windower?
    Here we go again. Can we start a poll or something about the chances of FFXIV being alt-tab-friendly or not? I am predicting that it won't ever support it...

  7. #1127
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    Either my sarcasm meter is broken or it's getting retarded around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Originally it was to help prevent the use of 3rd party tools.
    That's how you define irony

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    Time to start ripping out the windows key again?

  10. #1130
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    Shit, same deal for me. You've gotta be kidding, SE. Alpha wasn't this way, so why would they backpedal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaossamurai View Post
    Happening to me too. So, how long until we can expect a XIV windower?
    You can run the game in windowed mode that works perfectly on certain resolutions and still needs adjusting on others. atm windowed mode is locked.. so if you set it to 19200x1200, and it turns out to not be positioned on the screen properly, you can't move the window around to fix it. Like on my 19200x1200 you can see the window boarder on the top of the screen.

    You need to go into ffxiv.config and set the in game settings

  12. #1132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emirii View Post
    does anyone know what this is? it's off of neko-sentai but i've googled it and got nothin'
    I think the model viewer for FF14 (I can only assume that is what that is) is still somewhat banned due to the NDA from SE. Not quite sure it will be easy to find until that NDA is lifted.

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    There was no full screen in the alpha. It's shit coding and should be fixed.

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    Didn't we spend years laughing about spaghetti coding in FFXI? It's not that big of a deal now, as its beta, but it kinda give me the chills thinking that maybe, just maybe, something this stupid will make it to launch and the groans will start all over again.

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    So if the beta has bugs, it's spaghetti code all over again? Come on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Didn't we spend years laughing about spaghetti coding in FFXI? It's not that big of a deal now, as its beta, but it kinda give me the chills thinking that maybe, just maybe, something this stupid will make it to launch and the groans will start all over again.
    I doubt it's spaghetti code in this case, it looks like a good old fashioned bug. Graphic rendering is one of the last layer of code, and is not used by anything else, it will be an easy fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    So if the beta has bugs, it's spaghetti code all over again? Come on now.
    Everyone here, who is a coding master by the way, has audited SE's code completely. Don't question their knowledge on such matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    I doubt it's spaghetti code in this case, it looks like a good old fashioned bug. Graphic rendering is one of the last layer of code, and is not used by anything else, it will be an easy fix.
    I'm still scared. Hold me.

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    When asked about allowing for skill/gear swaps on class change somebody from S-E said something along the lines of "we found more minuses than pluses with allowing that, but if that's what players want we're open to implementing it." Not an exact quote but that's why some people think they won't be there. I fully believe that they will be there by release as there are absolutely no minuses to allowing them. The only thing preventing their implementation is S-E laziness.

    I don't think S-E is so stupid that they would make the same colossal mistake about windowed mode again. I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cureslime View Post
    When asked about allowing for skill/gear swaps on class change somebody from S-E said something along the lines of "we found more minuses than pluses with allowing that, but if that's what players want we're open to implementing it." Not an exact quote but that's why some people think they won't be there. I fully believe that they will be there by release as there are absolutely no minuses to allowing them. The only thing preventing their implementation is S-E laziness.

    I don't think S-E is so stupid that they would make the same colossal mistake about windowed mode again. I hope.
    dunno why everyone wants to alt tab, you can basically run it in a window the size of your monitor and got to other progs wo alt tab. And yeha i heard they didnt have alt tab because they wanted to reduce 3rd party progs, which actually made it slightly harder, but of course people made work arounds.

    oh yeah back to changing class fast, i dont really see the problem with it. long as people dont try to go retarded with it. battles are pretty fast paced so missing 3 seconds is generally not worth it, but now that tp degrades slower, maybe they may have some uses, still its disengae do whatever re engage, so its like 5-7 sec, in which time you prolly could have done something faster. for non melee maybe its more useful, say rng to blm, but you still porolly be better off just taking the skills you want from one and putting it on other job, since you will still have same stats, bar gear bonuses.

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