FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread III: Where's my beta invite?

**Null** · 2010-07-10 05:12

I wonder how the experience system works out if you switch to a higher level then switch back while in battle.

**Hyan** · 2010-07-10 05:14

Originally Posted by Null

I wonder how the experience system works out if you switch to a higher level then switch back while in battle.

I bet you gain no exp :D.

**Viertel** · 2010-07-10 05:18

Originally Posted by LD

It won't.

I super really don't like how this sounds.

As far as damage classes, ultimately your DPM will be what decides if it will or won't. Considering how many more attacks and abilities every class seems to be getting it'll probably end up being just effective enough for the majority. And losing 60~ seconds to get the full effect out of an ability and then switch big is a really big penalty. Plus, depending on how gear works at the endgame level, 50% effectiveness is a significantly huge loss and the gear would have to be giving your avatar sex to overcome that.

Frankly, I wish they would just disable it period. Wearing what's crucial to a fight in advance? That's strategy. Going into any fight knowing it doesn't matter because you've got gear switching macros (or Spellcast)? That's just boring.

**Fanfon** · 2010-07-10 05:21

Originally Posted by LD

It won't.

I super really don't like how this sounds.

Nor do I, I hope someone can get to 30 with two disciplines and give it a test. It won't be the real thing, but at least it'll give us a rough idea.

**Emirii** · 2010-07-10 05:59

I like it, but they seem to be just adding more and more elements... I like simple games... Or I get confused. With FFXI they've done added so much stuff, I can't keep up anymore... I barely finish 3 ranks of assault and they come out with campaign lol. Maybe I just suck like that, I dont know.

**Kiarax** · 2010-07-10 06:33

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And have some streams whilst you're at it:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yosuxi
http://ja.justin.tv/sokuhoulink

Heading out so won't be dumping any more.

**ascalon** · 2010-07-10 06:36

I'm all for tactical (paradigm?) shifts in tactics in longer fights, but with most of the encounters lasting maybe a minute tops in Alpha (unless you had a crazy Lancer missing spree...) I don't for see much benefit to swapping gear out.

However, being able to swap to, for example, Gladiator after one of your tanks dies would help to curtail wiping - especially since we still have the 5 minute death weakness.

Either way, you aren't gonna be swapping staves for every single cast this time. Sure, if there is a way to abuse the system, people will. But bear in mind that a lot of equipment is Discipline specific, so you would literally have to swap everything including your weapon in combat, and you'd be massively gimped for 30 seconds. Most likely this would simply not be worth it at higher levels except in incredibly specific situations.

**Celeras** · 2010-07-10 06:48

Behest sounds like NPCs who give kill quests. But it can't be just that.. because that's what Leve's are and it would be silly to give a separate name to it. My interest is peaked.

**Jinko** · 2010-07-10 06:53

Originally Posted by Katlan

WRONG. u will be able to re-allocate them after a "set amount of time" is the most we have heard. ppl will be able to tell u more tomorrow. They dont want changing jobs to be as easy to XI where u can go from mage to melee to mage in 5 minutes. Want a little bit of thought process behind it

You coudn't be more wrong about "They dont want changing jobs to be as easy to XI" why would they have the armoury system in place if they didn't want you to change jobs to easily.

Tanaka has said several times the whole prupose of the armory system is so that plays can play what they want, when they want.

When equipping a piece of gear in the midst of battle, the attributes it grants will be halved for a period of 30 seconds.
This measure is in place to deter frequent switches to high-level classes while in combat.

Urgh armor switching... take it away !

**mr.bryce** · 2010-07-10 07:02

Originally Posted by Spira

lol its VERSION UPDATE day! >_>

does the alpha client updates to beta client or do we have to start over with a beta client ?

the alpha update keeps failing for me

**Zubis** · 2010-07-10 07:03

Originally Posted by mr.bryce

does the alpha client updates to beta client or do we have to start over with a beta client ?

the alpha update keeps failing for me

There's a new client.

**Hyan** · 2010-07-10 07:06

The guy in the stream is such an idiot, pisses me off =/

**Jinfire** · 2010-07-10 07:10

So the Betas today so I assume this thread will be active again? yay!

Also I agree, armor switching is dumb. But what I assume (I havent played alpha / beta at all) is they prolly will have somesort of boss fights, and people can sit out for like 30secs and switch jobs ect. But they dont want people job switching on exp / make it the norm. (well job switching / gear switching is what I mean).

**Agito** · 2010-07-10 07:14

It seems like that Ustream stream is going to break at any moment. And yeah, this Yosuxi sure is suxi.

**Hyan** · 2010-07-10 07:18

Now she died, fail.

Looked like the stamina gauge was even a bit faster than at the E3? Or was it just my imagination?

Also did it change colour?

EDIT: Looks to be the same pace, and it seems to change color when the gauge depletes?

Looks like she knows how to regen HP.. not.

**Jinko** · 2010-07-10 07:26

Yea it goes blue when you can use the next attack, kind of a global cooldown, to stop people spamming attacks.

**Hyan** · 2010-07-10 07:33

You've gotta be fucking kidding me.. died to the same mob as before.

**Jinko** · 2010-07-10 07:35

Originally Posted by Hyan

You've gotta be fucking kidding me.. died to the same mob as before.

Yea this guy ain't the smartest of subjects, don't think he is checking the mobs strength before attacking.

Looks like the game is running quite well with a lot of people on screen, duno what his PC is like though I suppose, wish he would stop using the mouse for everything aswell.

**Agito** · 2010-07-10 07:35

Fuck this bitch. Get some Americans in this damned beta so we can get some real information.

**Destinye** · 2010-07-10 07:36

Or s/he could be someone new to it or rusty..which based on what they're saying in-game and on chat at times..seems so.

Originally Posted by Agito

Fuck this bitch. Get some Americans in this damned beta so we can get some real information. Japanese people are like dumber than all hell.

Americans aren't any better.

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