FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread III: Where's my beta invite?

[BlackheartX]

I don't know what all the fuss is about. I'm more inclined to play XIV because of the things that were carried over from XI, such as the races. I know that this applies to an exceptionally large number of players, probably the majority.

If everything was 100% new, I'd honestly have far more reservations about giving it a go.

It tugs on the emotional attachment I have with XI after playing it for 6yrs, and I really appreciate them retaining some of the old stuff while at the same time implementing new battle systems etc.

That's the point they want to make a new game that doesn't alienate people from the old and draws people who were turned off by the first ones shortcomings. The argument is will they be successful or is this just fan-service. (only NPD's at launch and a 2yr checkup will determine how successful they were)

[Hyan]

Look at it, Hyan. Take a -look- at the game. It looks like FFXI, it moves like FFXI, it feels like FFXI and it sounds like FFXI; hell, I bet it even smells like FFXI, if such a thing could exist.

I'm not talking about the system or the ins and outs. I'm talking about the overall game. FFXIV doesn't look like FFXIII, it doesn't look like FFXII, it doesn't look like Kingdom Hearts. It looks exactly like a super-upgraded FFXI. Look at it like a car: sure, there's a new engine, tranny and suspension under the hood, but look at the body, the wheels, the exhaust. It -LOOKS- like the original.

And now I'll respectfully disagree with you here, because to me how the game PLAYS is a bigger indicator than how the game LOOKS.

WoW is not WC3, no matter how you slice it. FFXIII is not FFX.

But really, I get it- but in a GAME, visuals are not what matters (the most). Just an IMO.

FFXIV represents the biggest technical leap since AOC, and we know what happened when Funcom rushed that game out of the box. Having something like a 30-FPS cap when you're touting the most beautiful game to ever hit the MMO market -is- pathetic. Star Wars isn't touting graphics; they're touting gameplay. Mortal Online isn't touting anything, lol.

And SW's gameplay is pathetic bro. Or maybe I just don't see what's there to tout about. I doubt it though.

You're being far, far too defensive about FFXIV. There are flaws in the beta, at the moment, Hyan. Its okay. Its okay, man. They still have time. Lets hope they read the posts and implement the necessary changes. We're all in this together.

I simply think that what you say is beyond retarded.

I don't mind the flaws man. What I mind is you saying "this is FFXI v2" when the gameplay mechanics already shows that it fucking isn't. Especially the FFV comment was laughable =/.

There is a fair difference between camping mobs 1 by 1 in a small area for hours and roaming around doing quests fighting against a horde of mobs at time.

Gameplay is what matters. Sorry.

[Fanfon]

ffs, I'm going to miss the first test because of this bloody patch and their shitty patcher.

[Lucavi]

How many "hordes" have you fought so far, Hyan? I've done one guildelve that consisted of a "horde" of mob, and there were 2 big birds with about 6 leeches that died in one AOE WS.

You're selling the game far to high for what you've experienced thus far.

Edit: Fanfon, torrent it. Its much faster. Use their official torrent, then delete your old folders and let it patch and update everything brand new.

[Katlan]

Is this an example of the Depth of Field? Why is that a good thing. I like sharp graphics al the time

It is, you can turn the effect on and off in the settings.

It's supposed to emulate the focus of a camera lense where its not possible to focus on the foreground and background at the same time.

Why does this take so much more gpu power then? seems like it would be lighter on the gpu.

And I don't see why ppl think the 30fps will be for retail, its obvious the game isnt fully optimized as SLI and other stuff isnt enabled

[ScootSeraph]

There is a fair difference between camping mobs 1 by 1 in a small area for hours and roaming around doing quests fighting against a horde of mobs at time.

There were roam parties in FFXI, and there were also fights against more then 1 mob, they just weren't prevalent. They weren't rare either though.

I haven't seen very much footage of party vs party gameplay yet, so we should put that one to rest for now. I can name a myriad of things SE has promised us that have never come to fruition.

[Destinye]

Why does this take so much more gpu power then? seems like it would be lighter on the gpu.

And I don't see why ppl think the 30fps will be for retail, its obvious the game isnt fully optimized as SLI and other stuff isnt enabled

It takes more power to apply the effect.

There were roam parties in FFXI, and there were also fights against more then 1 mob, they just weren't prevalent. They weren't rare either though.

I haven't seen very much footage of party vs party gameplay yet, so we should put that one to rest for now. I can name a myriad of things SE has promised us that have never come to fruition.

Game isn't finished yet, and obviously that wouldn't be the lowest level content >.> Even FFXI had party vs party in a few occasions.

[BlackheartX]

Why does this take so much more gpu power then? seems like it would be lighter on the gpu.

And I don't see why ppl think the 30fps will be for retail, its obvious the game isnt fully optimized as SLI and other stuff isnt enabled

Your rendering stuff that otherwise wouldn't be rendered.

[Hyan]

How many "hordes" have you fought so far, Hyan? I've done one guildelve that consisted of a "horde" of mob, and there were 2 big birds with about 6 leeches that died in one AOE WS.

You're selling the game far to high for what you've experienced thus far.

And you're ignoring what the devs have stated for what you've experienced thus far.

Of course, I could play FFXI to level 15 and declare that it is a soloing game, obviously.

[Katlan]

Your rendering stuff that otherwise wouldn't be rendered.

ahh ok, makes sense.

[Lucavi]

And you're ignoring what the devs have stated for what you've experienced thus far.

Of course, I could play FFXI to level 15 and declare that it is a soloing game, obviously.

This is absurd. You're hyping up something you haven't even experienced. We're done here.

[Hyan]

This is absurd. You're hyping up something you haven't even experienced. We're done here.

And you are doing the exact opposite, hypocrite.

[sruon]

Oh good.

[Katlan]

Ambient Occlusion looks amazing in those pic's, cant wait to see it for myself tonight

[BlackheartX]

I <3 this thread and it's Fan-Wars.
(someone threaten to not buy this game if they don't change X GO!!!)

[ScootSeraph]

And you're ignoring what the devs have stated for what you've experienced thus far.

Of course, I could play FFXI to level 15 and declare that it is a soloing game, obviously.

The devs also stated that the PC and PS3 versions would be released at the same time (I'm a PC player, don't worry, just saying). They also said that there would be no levels originally. Do I really need to show you the concept art of Limsa Lominsa?

They have a ton of work to do and a ton of questions to answer, not everything they say is set in stone.

[Hyan]

I <3 this thread and it's Fan-Wars.

I gotta say it's much more fun now that *beep* comparisons are not allowed.

The devs also stated that the PC and PS3 versions would be released at the same time (I'm a PC player, don't worry, just saying). They also said that there would be no levels originally. Do I really need to show you the concept art of Limsa Lominsa?

I realize that, and it works both ways.

Frankly, there are elements that back up my point already. Most spells are AoE or conal AoE, depending on magic class. Mobs in a group check as one unit instead of as individuals.

And honestly, if they can do it, why wouldn't they? Heh.

[sruon]

I'M NOT BUYING THIS GAME IF THEY REUSE FFXI SKILL NAMES FUCK

[BlackheartX]

Ambient Occlusion looks amazing in those pic's, cant wait to see it for myself tonight

Yeah looks much more atmospheric in comparison to alpha.

@Sruon

Red Lotus Blade would like to have a word with you right over there next to Phalanx.

@Lucavi

Too slow

[Lucavi]

I'M NOT BUYING THIS GAME IF THEY REUSE FFXI SKILL NAMES FUCK

Too late! Red lotus blade!