FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread III: Where's my beta invite?

[Gethsemane]

Just have a thought.

The augment system in FFXI is pretty nice and I really like it.

Instead of throwing away the gear you earned, you improve it over time and keep it even when the level cap is raised.

I hope they carry this idea to FF14 endgame.

Please don't be like wow every 3 months your gear is obsolete.

I used to be against this idea for a long time and is a lot of the reason why I left WoW after the first expansion from when I capped a character. I worked hard to get the best gear and then it was obsolete. But in a sense it should be obsolete. Why should a level 55 piece of gear be the best piece even during 60-70 70-80 etc. Better gear brings old players back to grind and socialize with their old friends and new players that are trying to grind for good gear too. There's a reason WoW has the population it does.

Right or wrong with how they update their gear who knows. In hindsight it keeps people busy with old/new friends trying to obtain goals again. It's like a refresher.

In order for the system to really work they need it to be done in tiers of difficulty. For the level 60 awesome gear that can hold you til level 70 awesome gear, it should be easier to get than the 70. Not sure if WoW scales on difficulty of instances/etc. Someone else would have to answer that for me. If done right, it can work.

[Lucavi]

So capitalism is cool but not in MMOs? Paging senator McCarthy...

When did I say it was cool in the first place? Real world economics =/= MMO economics.

It'll be interesting to see reviews of this game. I can see them being all over the place.

[Jinko]

Can't say I made quite that much money but I suppose if I totalled up the costs of sets of equip to get three classes 15+ then it coulda been close. But it was FUN actually having stuff to upgrade.

The problem I foresee with low level play is just what you're saying here. The lack of gear availability was noticeable ranks 1-8. I DID get 3x Hempen Hat, but sadly my character only has one head. Didn't get any other armour loot at all. For people coming from WoW or Aion or wherever, people expect to get upgrades through quests etc. And they expect a CHOICE too.

3x Hempen Hat. Mage gear. With +mage stats. And I was levelling.... PUGILIST. Woo.

Would a choice of gear for Melee/Casters for each leve be a bad idea?

I totally agree there does need to be a choice, I assume the hats weren't bound to your character so they could be used to sell or exchange for gear that you are looking for.

Would be interesting to see if the retainer system allows you to trade armour for armour.

[BlackheartX]

When did I say it was cool in the first place? Real world economics =/= MMO economics.

It'll be interesting to see reviews of this game. I can see them being all over the place.

Well in a way they kinda do especially in XI.

[ascalon]

I totally agree there does need to be a choice, I assume the hats weren't bound to your character so they could be used to sell or exchange for gear that you are looking for.

Would be interesting to see if the retainer system allows you to trade armour for armour.

I noticed in Alpha that the leve rewards cycled between gear of a similar level. Which was fine when you could repeat the same leve twice in one 4-hr play session.

But as it is in beta when you get to do the leve once and that's it, that lack of choice is more noticable. Especially as gil is more rare and ranking up with weapons is also considerably slower, yet monsters get tougher faster...

And yeah, so far I haven't seen any BoP equipment. If there are rare/ex equivalents, they aren't obvious yet.

[mr.bryce]

Is there such thing as a FFXIV beta key? I already have the 20 digit one for registering FFXIII for PS3, but I acquired a 12 digit one that's suppose to be a beta key. I don't know where to put it in though or if it's even legit.

log on to your square enix website account and unlock the ffbeta service by entering the key?

[madhater]

Well in a way they kinda do especially in XI.

Sure same basics, supply/demand, time/currency ratios. From what I've watched and read its looking like guildleves are a way to greatly enhance a persons productivity for the first hour or so of play per day(or 2 days if that is the real cooldown) then you throttle "hardcores" down in their progress so the gap between people who play say 40 hours a week and 10 hours a week isn't nearly what it would be in FFXI or other MMO's. I know most people here won't like it but that seems to be the design philosophy.

[Alderaan]

Was there any sign of an armor remodel/reskin NPC anywhere?

I'm totally addicted to that aspect of Aion. <3 kimono's.

[roippi]

buncha communists up in here

[Lucavi]

Well in a way they kinda do especially in XI.

Hence why it was so broken and exploitable for so long?

[BlackheartX]

buncha communists up in here

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[Cresenu]

SE said, Armor and weapons start to deteriorate over time. Then you need to find a crafter to repair your stuff. Is there anything to stop the crafter from keeping your items and running off with them?

[Lucavi]

No idea yet; I haven't had anything to trade anyone yet, due to like, no rewards from guildelves in beta.

[Jinko]

SE said, Armor and weapons start to deteriorate over time. Then you need to find a crafter to repair your stuff. Is there anything to stop the crafter from keeping your items and running off with them?

I dont think you actually give them the item.

[bigrougabagel]

I've scanned through here and cannot find a description, though I may have overlooked something. If this has been answered, please feel free to get an axe. What exactly is a guardian? I see this listed in character creation screens. What might this be and how does it affect game play? Thanks.

[bluefan]

I've scanned through here and cannot find a description, though I may have overlooked something. If this has been answered, please feel free to get an axe. What exactly is a guardian? I see this listed in character creation screens. What might this be and how does it affect game play? Thanks.

I couldn't find much on them myself...and the little I did read reminded me of PSOs MAG system.

[Fawkes]

3x Hempen Hat. Mage gear. With +mage stats. And I was levelling.... PUGILIST. Woo.

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[Katlan]

I've scanned through here and cannot find a description, though I may have overlooked something. If this has been answered, please feel free to get an axe. What exactly is a guardian? I see this listed in character creation screens. What might this be and how does it affect game play? Thanks.

From what i am able to assume from the little i played. as you do leve's (and prolly other stuff), you gain favor w/ your guardian. What this does i have no idea, but like i had 200/200 favor w/ my guardian when I first started.

They stated you can change your guardian at will also

[madhater]

On the beta manual it says Guardian Favor can be used for temporary stat bonuses during leves.

"Players can now use the “favor” they have earned with their Guardian to petition for temporary attribute increases and other bonuses for the duration of a levequest.
Favor increases at a rate of 10 points every 12 hours (Earth time), up to a maximum of 200 points."

That is all I can find, someone else in beta might know about its functionality.

[Cayos]

On the beta manual it says Guardian Favor can be used for temporary stat bonuses during leves.

"Players can now use the “favor” they have earned with their Guardian to petition for temporary attribute increases and other bonuses for the duration of a levequest.
Favor increases at a rate of 10 points every 12 hours (Earth time), up to a maximum of 200 points."

That is all I can find, someone else in beta might know about its functionality.

I happened to come across this. Getting a bonus cost 1 favor (if i remember correctly). It gave me an increased rate of skill ups (according to the status icon at the top of the screen), and disappeared after the leve quest ended. It was kind of hard to gauge what kind of bonus there was, if at all, since I had no idea what level the mobs I was fighting were, or what the normal amount of skill ups was for spriggans.