Stereoscopic 3D & Multiple Monitors in FFXIV

[Croy]

Yeah whatever man, you're fucking clueless coming out of the woodwork with wikipedia'd definitions of stereoscopic and acting like you know what you're talking about.

Yerli comments that Crytek has been researching 3D technology for the past three years, and that actual 3D support was first implemented about a year ago. He promises support for any and all types of 3D technology (he throws out names like "Dolby3D" or "RealD"), as opposed to requiring a specific type of 3D glasses or hardware.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3179807

You're arguing what, the fact that Crysis 2 will support 3D that doesn't require specific hardware(120mhz displays etc)... or the fact that I used it as an example as to why SE might do the same? Newsflash, ANY game works with nVidia 3D if you have the hardware. You flip a switch, and its on to varying degrees depending on developer. It's been this way for years as a selling point for nVidia GPUs. Just because SE shows the game in 3D at a conference where 3D was practically the theme, it doesnt necessarily reflect their intentions with 3D development. And nobody can claim to know otherwise since yesterday is the first time this has even surfaced.

This wasn't the topic brought up when you first started talking. You kept saying that no special hardware would be required to utilize 3D. True enough all you need are proper drivers, but unless you want anaglyph all OTHER 3D compliant methods require special equipment/monitors/glasses to make a 3D effect. This is all we have been arguing. If you don't have the proper setups, you are literally left with only anaglyph. It won't even let you setup for anything else to try it.

Also... they showed intentions to to make it in 3D at their own booth, not at a conference. They also said they were interested in an Nvidia publication magazine.

[Celeras]

If that's the case and I wasn't initially clear, I apologize. Was never trying to say anything more than that.

[Agito]

I wonder if that PS3 3D stuff will work with FFXIV.

[bluefan]

I wonder if that PS3 3D stuff will work with FFXIV.

It should. Provided it doesn't kill performance. 3D visualization is purely driver driven. It's why quite a few older PC games "support 3D".

I've been sold on a 3 display 3D set up for awhile now, but that picture just cemented it 100%.

[Cichy]

I have those nvidia glasses and a 120mhz monitor, I played Aion for couple of day with them and got bored. Now they sitting in their packaging, maybe 14 will make me use them again.

[Croy]

I have those nvidia glasses and a 120mhz monitor, I played Aion for couple of day with them and got bored. Now they sitting in their packaging, maybe 14 will make me use them again.

I actually like the 3D effect in Aion but I will admit... the effect in that game is a bit 'too' in your face and is more a distraction then helpful for playing. Same with WoW actually. But then again neither of those games has a graphic and effect engine designed for 3D. Probably the one thing I hope SE works on if they plan to work on making the game easy for 3D is the GUI. The way GUI is handled in 3D can make or break an effect and make it obnoxious rather then immersive.

I really want a proper 3D TV, the new 3D TV shutter technology is awesome. They are very light, easy fitting and some have damn near no contrast and lighting issues. Those three issues are the reason I probably won't use Nvidia glasses for marathoning sessions. They should be awesome when doing storyline stuff though. I will certainly bring them out for those

[Cichy]

yup, I also found them distracting, also was hard for me to navigate with a mouse because of them. I always use mouse/keyboard for mmo's.

[alecrast]

NVIDIA actually offers 2 flavors of 3D only the one with the active shutter glasses (3D Vision) gets all the press. They also offer 3D Vision Discover which uses red/blue anaglyph glasses and will work with standard 60Hz panels (pretty much all the IPS panels are 60Hz with cheaper TN panels being the rare 120Hz breed). As to which is better, I cannot say. I've never been able to do a side-by-side comparison. The shutter glasses get annoying after a while... and I have to wonder what the red/blue glasses will do to your eyes after continuous 6 hour gaming sessions because we all know few if any ever take the recommended breaks once an hour.

[Croy]

NVIDIA actually offers 2 flavors of 3D only the one with the active shutter glasses (3D Vision) gets all the press. They also offer 3D Vision Discover which uses red/blue anaglyph glasses and will work with standard 60Hz panels (pretty much all the IPS panels are 60Hz with cheaper TN panels being the rare 120Hz breed). As to which is better, I cannot say. I've never been able to do a side-by-side comparison. The shutter glasses get annoying after a while... and I have to wonder what the red/blue glasses will do to your eyes after continuous 6 hour gaming sessions because we all know few if any ever take the recommended breaks once an hour.

The shutter effect loses it's charm once you realize you will be staring at the back of the player all the time and if you have it in first person mode you lose visual data that you might need to play. Basically you have to choose between actually playing the game and being more immersive... in an MMORPG guess which one the parties care about more?

Anaglyph really isn't up for discussion if you ask me. I get headaches just staring at unmoving screens with it, much less something in motion. It's a nice 'gimmick' effect but it really adds nothing to an experience in fact it detracts unlike the 3D vision shutter glasses. At least the shutter glasses are fluid and less jarring. Darker images and the occasional out of sync image (if your monitor and system isn't warmed up, a constant flickering can occur and it makes games unplayable while using 3D vision) is really my only issues with them.

[alecrast]

The shutter effect loses it's charm once you realize you will be staring at the back of the player all the time and if you have it in first person mode you lose visual data that you might need to play. Basically you have to choose between actually playing the game and being more immersive... in an MMORPG guess which one the parties care about more?

Just pointing it out as an option since it's dirt cheap to try and doesn't require the investment in both the glasses and 120Hz panels. Playing in 3D isn't really my thing as I don't want to be wearing glasses for hours on end, further tethering me to a computer. I will, however, be playing on 3x Dell U2711 screens using ATI Eyefinity (unless NVIDIA gives me some really compelling reason to switch back to them).

[Arc07]

Woo multiple screens I am downnnnn.

[Fawkes]

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What are the chances of ATI's 3D being supported if nvidia seems to have their hooks in SE? I'm thinking of getting a new video card soon and was planning to switch to ATI, but I'd like to know beforehand if I'd never see FFXIV in 3D because of it.

[Kachi]

Multiple screen support seems pretty hax. By the looks of it, you're actually getting 3x the visual information. So uh... yeah, that could be pretty useful, though probably a bit cost prohibitive for most people. Not sure how to feel about that, really.

[sruon]

Multiple screen support seems pretty hax. By the looks of it, you're actually getting 3x the visual information. So uh... yeah, that could be pretty useful, though probably a bit cost prohibitive for most people. Not sure how to feel about that, really.

3 times more headache you mean? I mean, I know it's not a FPS but I can't focus on 1920x1080, let alone 3 times that.

I'd definitly use it for partying, or for whatever doesn't take much brain cells but the rest? idkbro

[Kachi]

Sounds like a personal problem to me. Personally I'd be focused on the center screen as usual, but it sure would seem handy to see something coming at me from a whole screen away that I otherwise wouldn't see until it was already wailing at me.

If I had a panoramic view of FFXI I could probably have cut my deaths down significantly. At the very least I wouldn't have had to pan the camera around mid-battle nearly as much.

[Jinko]

Just to clear its up, to experience steroscopic 3D on a PC or PS3 you will require a 3D capable monitor/TV i.e one that refreshes at 120 hz.

Personally I think 3 monitors is too much, im down with 3D though.

[Krystm]

Im really glad to see the triple monitor setup. I have been trying this with XI for so long and failed miserably.

However the 3d thing.. I mean really how long do you think that is going to last. It has an awesome coolness factor but is it really worth the investment? That and well you cant record fraps videos and have everyone see it.... unless they have 3d system too....

[Jinko]

That and well you cant record fraps videos and have everyone see it.... unless they have 3d system too....

Who cares what others think

[mundie]

I wonder what it's going to do to your eyes if you play 4+ hours every day. I could imagine you'd get terrible headaches.

[aspekt]

I was thinking maybe all the menu on center screen and the 2 on sid only for viewing? if they have this option would be nice, i think....