Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/10)

[TheCaptain]

Problems with RNG additions:

-They make us do more damage but still have no survivability or enmity reduction..

-They either need to move gun sweet spot back 7' or Archery is the new king depending on how well that new trait works..

[Hyan]

DNC will be such a beast if it gets DW4... goddamn it.

[Jkun]

Problems with RNG additions:

-They make us do more damage but still have no survivability or enmity reduction..

-They either need to move gun sweet spot back 7' or Archery is the new king depending on how well that new trait works..

Trait and "sweet spot" for archery aside, conserve TP and if Double Attack procs on WS just broke Kraken RNG even more. :D

[Kayatani]

Why the flying fuck does BST get the Fencer job trait and RDM doesn't? Granted BST will get more use out of it, but the whole fencer image really suits RDM better and it would have been nice to get something interesting, even if it's crappy melee enhancements.

Same shit with NIN getting Magic burst bonus and not RDM Q_Q

[Classikmage]

Hmm, I wonder if Mana Wall will make BLM/SCH usable in more situations. Granted it has a 10 min recast with a 5 min duration. But if used properly I couls see it being used as a replacement for Stoneskin in some situations.

[Wulfgang]

DRK changes are interesting, despite the uses being pretty marginal. I'm curious how the TP bonus to spells works, especially for spells that typically do >1 dmg on many mobs (e.g. Bio). WAR's JA would have been nice though for Cata.

And Mana Wall can't work like FFT or else BLM is effectively invincible for 5 minutes with a refresh cloak on.

[test123]

TP gain for spells has been suggested before and IIRC is present in FFXIV.

This makes Claustrum more usefull

[Classikmage]

DRK changes are interesting, despite the uses being pretty marginal. I'm curious how the TP bonus to spells works, especially for spells that typically do >1 dmg on many mobs (e.g. Bio). WAR's JA would have been nice though for Cata.

And Mana Wall can't work like FFT or else BLM is effectively invincible for 5 minutes with a refresh cloak on.

I'm going to assume it's going to work sort of like Convert in the repsect that it's probably going to be a equal reduction to both sides. You take X damage, you lose X MP.

[Hookah]

PLD GETS NATIVE PHALANX WAT

So this the end of pld/rdm?

Pld/whm now for self haste?

Pld/dnc seems a lot sexier now...

[cdryik]

They corrected the english version for mana wall:

Mana Wall (BLM Lv.76 Ability Delay: 10 min. Effect Duration: 5 min.)
Allows you to take damage with MP.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Welp I know what I'm doing when the servers are down.

XML here i come ....

[Classikmage]

PLD GETS NATIVE PHALANX WAT

So this the end of pld/rdm?

Pld/whm now for self haste?

Pld/dnc seems a lot sexier now...

I thought PLD/RDM was more for spells like Blind/Sleep/Dispel as well for uber hate control?

EDIT: MDB too

[JemTitan]

TP gain for spells has been suggested before and IIRC is present in FFXIV.

This makes Claustrum more usefull

This is only level 80 cap, maybe this is a new direction for BLM + SCH and will be used for something added with future level cap increases such as a JA that functions as a Chain Affinity for elemtal/dark magic. To bad it's not all magic BLU and solo WHM would have loved some spell TP action!

[Not Kuno]

Some of these changes look really good. Some I don't understand how it's appropriate for the job. >_>


Edit: Also some of these abilities and traits were the awesome shit I made up for my fake job at some job making up contest like last year or something.

[jimbobsonofgod]

To bad it's not all magic BLU

if they add this as a new blu trait from spells at 76+ i will
Jizz my pants.

[Hookah]

I thought PLD/RDM was more for spells like Blind/Sleep/Dispel as well for uber hate control?

EDIT: MDB too

I was thinking about the MDB thing after I posted that, but there are other SJ's you can use for hate control. Might see more pld/drk?

[seiji]

PLD GETS NATIVE PHALANX WAT

So this the end of pld/rdm?

Pld/whm now for self haste?

Pld/dnc seems a lot sexier now...

90/war fencer

TP gain for spells has been suggested before and IIRC is present in FFXIV.

This makes Tupsimati more usefull

FTFY(blm dont have the TP trait!)

Why the flying fuck does BST get the Fencer job trait and RDM doesn't? Granted BST will get more use out of it, but the whole fencer image really suits RDM better and it would have been nice to get something interesting, even if it's crappy melee enhancements.

Same shit with NIN getting Magic burst bonus and not RDM Q_Q

rdm90/war for fencer (dont work dual wielding)

[jimbobsonofgod]

naw plds still sub rdm so they can die post convert like rdms for the past decade.

[Classikmage]

Hmmm, COR might be pretty boss in a tank PT w/ Evoker's Roll and Caster's Roll. 2 rolls everyone can love. PLD, RDM, WHM.

Just slap on Luzaf's and your set.

[Alkar]

Good to see Redmage gets shafted again~ Yay! .....

Hmmm what? RDM gets to use /SCH effectively with this update (/SCH39=Erase)
so what exactly are you complaining about?