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  1. #121
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    Hmm, am I the only person who thinks that 2 of those new BPs are actually for Alexander and Odin? I saw Holy whatever it is and Night terror as perfect names for both of them. Could be wrong but I hoped it meant we'd be able to use the Avatars post 75...

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    LOL
    doubleshot+sidewinder, holy shiiiiiiiiiit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Hmmm what? RDM gets to use /SCH effectively with this update (/SCH39=Erase)
    so what exactly are you complaining about?
    That they didn't get the special treatment other jobs did.

    I predict Refresh 2 in the next update.

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    Dear SE: Thanks for giving us access to the highest base damage weapons in the game, then telling us to cast more. Seriously what the hell.

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    LOL
    doubleshot+sidewinder, holy shiiiiiiiiiit
    My sentiments exactly. :D Gogo 3k+ Sidewinders on Non piercing mobs ^^

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldelphia View Post
    Hmm, am I the only person who thinks that 2 of those new BPs are actually for Alexander and Odin? I saw Holy whatever it is and Night terror as perfect names for both of them. Could be wrong but I hoped it meant we'd be able to use the Avatars post 75...
    One of them has Lunar in its name and the other refers to nightmares, so I doubt it. Also, if they were to give them new BPs, my bet is that they would be 90+. I mean, after all, we're only able to summon them at 75 as is >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    That they didn't get the special treatment other jobs did.

    I predict Refresh 2 in the next update.
    RDM needed something? Or maybe you didn't notice that BRD is getting nothing out of this update?(Just like RDM they don't need anything).
    Those BPs are for Carby, Fenrir and Diabolos. There's really no doubt lol.

  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    RDM needed something? Or maybe you didn't notice that BRD is getting nothing out of this update?(Just like RDM they don't need anything).
    Those BPs are for Carby, Fenrir and Diabolos. There's really no doubt lol.
    Not yet, but soon. Once rdm loses refresh, they need something or they lose their niche. Brd doesn't have such a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Not yet, but soon. Once rdm loses refresh, they need something or they lose their niche. Brd doesn't have such a problem.
    Unless they make subjob refresh 1MP/tick lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Not yet, but soon. Once rdm loses refresh, they need something or they lose their niche. Brd doesn't have such a problem.
    Refresh is level 41. I don't see why anyone is expecting Refresh II before level 80.
    It'll most likely be at 81 or 82. The addition of /sch as a viable sub is better than anything they could've added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classikmage View Post
    My sentiments exactly. :D Gogo 3k+ Sidewinders on Non piercing mobs ^^
    looks like effect duration is 90 sec, which means might not work w/ ws, but its still awesome

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    That DRG Spirit Jump thingy...its not really clear if its gonna be like Jump/High Jump (does damage, gives TP) or Super Jump (enmity clear). If its a damage/TP gainer, then DRG/SAM is gonna be a pretty crazy TP machine at 80.

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    Wow DRG just turned into a tp whore even more now...

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    More ways for RNG to die instantly because of hate problems ._.

    That new WS better come with some less than average enmity or RNG is going to be dead in a hurry.

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    Given the current Avatars trend, I'd say

    Carby BP will probably suck since he'd still be one of the weakest Avatars. Useful against certain enemies, probably.

    Fenrir BP will have a lower damage/cost than the lv75 BPs.

    Diabolos BP will be the most expensive/damaging one. Would be nice to see it being nicely boosted from Dream Shroud.


    Also, I'm scared about the perp. costs going up again messing a lot of good gear.
    What levels does perp. cost usually go up?

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    All I know is that now blm can take crazy amounts of damage like citadel buster so fuck yeah.

  17. #137
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    Spirit Jump (DRG Lv.77 Ability Delay: 90 sec.)
    Delivers a short jumping attack on a targeted enemy which suppresses enmity. Effect enhanced when wyvern is present.

    Im sure it will deal damage and give TP. If i recall Super Jump doesnt mention an attack at all, just something about jumping out of the monsters field of vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayn View Post
    Dear SE: Thanks for giving us access to the highest base damage weapons in the game, then telling us to cast more. Seriously what the hell.
    They've been saying they were looking for ways to make DRKs cast more since 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classikmage View Post
    Hmm, I wonder if Mana Wall will make BLM/SCH usable in more situations. Granted it has a 10 min recast with a 5 min duration. But if used properly I couls see it being used as a replacement for Stoneskin in some situations.
    I expected something better but this could enable /SCH at least for same uses, time to finish leveling SCH sub for me...

    Some really interesting things overall, think Im going to try to finsh DNC now.

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    I think the BLM ability is a mistranslation. Mayb it's receive MP when youvtake damage

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