Picking a good 1920x1200 monitor

[Ruiner]

Lately I've been looking for a good, solid 1920x1200 monitor, partly because I want more screen real estate, and partly in preparation for FFXIV. However, it seems that the market is dominated by 1920x1080 monitors now, and the selection of 1920x1200 is pretty thin. I've singled out one that I think is pretty good, but I just wanted to double check with you guys to see if I've missed anything better. Here's what I've found:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001409

My restrictions are that it be 1920x1200 (unless someone can convince me of a good reason why x1200 is worthless), around ~$400 at the most, and good for gaming.

Thanks!

[Kurp]

I've been thinking about buying an HP ZR24W. It's 24" 1920x1200 and use an IPS panel. They're around $400.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_zr24w.htm
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.p...&id=1272354232

[jurjur]

Dell makes some crazy good IPS/PVA panel monitors

Dell UltraSharp U2211H 21" 1080p monitor w/ IPS panel.

http://bit.ly/9kvCWR for canadia prices

[Furtwangler]

Is it really worth the price increase for a 1200? I have 1080's (2 acers, 23" H233H's) and they were 1/4 the price of that, and are great.

[Cheerios]

Depends if the person wants to choose 16x10 over 16x9 for some reason.

[Kerberoz]

Yes, it's worth paying extra for 16:10, purely for the dignity of using a real monitor that was built as a monitor and not a rebranded dinky dorm-room brobox TV panel.

Dell makes some crazy good IPS/PVA panel monitors

Dell UltraSharp U2211H 21" 1080p monitor w/ IPS panel.

http://bit.ly/9kvCWR for canadia prices

Try reading the OP next time.

[shidobu]

id much rather buy 2x 1080p for 400. Than 1 1200 for 400 dollars. I was looking at screens last night.
My HP w2007 is only 1680x1050. Cant support 1080p and it annoys me. =\

So HIJACKIN THREADS SON. Whats some recomended 1080p screens?

[Isiolia]

The 1080p monitors aren't that cheap because they lack 120 pixels in height. It's the panel type. TN panels are cheap, in the full sense of the word. If you actually care about quality, then you buy an IPS or xVA panel, which costs more.

I have one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Tpk=hp%202475w that I'm please with, but it's an older model and a bit expensive.

The HP linked above would probably be a good fit. Not quite as robust in terms of inputs (seriously, the HP 2475W has an obscene amount), but cheaper and lower lag for gaming.

[Amastacia]

I'm with Isiolia. The HP LP2475W was the monitor I was going to pull the trigger on before I upsold myself to a 26" (Planar PX2611W), and from a gaming perspective the new e-IPS panel looks like an even better, and cheaper, option.

If you can't find one for right at $400, it's worth ponying up a few bucks over to snag a nice IPS panel over a crappy 1920x1080 TN panel.

[Tythera]

I also have one of the 2475w monitors. I love it, the only issue is I get to look at a NEC 2490WUXi2 at work so it's ever so slightly better than my home monitor. The one up above would work if you can find it in your budget.

[Kurp]

Are the HP 2475w monitors much better than the HP ZR24W ones in your opinions? The input options aren't a huge deal for me and I like that the ZR24W is sRGB. I've also been looking at the Dell U2410 which seems to have nice sRGB emulation.

I don't have the luxury of comparing them first hand.

[Ketna]

I am saddened to see the rise of 1080 monitors. I have two 1920x1200 24" monitors and want to pick up a third for eyefinity. I picked up both of my monitors for about 250 on a newegg sale. But they have become so rare that I dont know if i'll be lucky enough to pick up another one on sale.

But I am all for the 1200p monitor. I HATE 16:9 for PC, for TV its fine, but for PC 16:10 is a real resolution. The top of the line monitors are 30" and are 16:10 2560x1600. An d I have never shown anyone my PC set up who has a 1080p monitor who hasnt said they would rather have a 1200p after.

Good luck on finding a monitor OP.

[Isiolia]

Are the HP 2475w monitors much better than the HP ZR24W ones in your opinions? The input options aren't a huge deal for me and I like that the ZR24W is sRGB. I've also been looking at the Dell U2410 which seems to have nice sRGB emulation.

I don't have the luxury of comparing them first hand.

The review you linked to directly compares them. I personally don't have any first-hand experience with the ZR24W either, though I am now considering one as a second monitor (just have my old Dell 17" Ultrasharp (IPS) right now).

What it seems like to me is that if sRGB is important to you, then the ZR24W is possibly the better route. I know one of the few complaints with the 2475W is taming the color output. If your use doesn't demand 100% perfect calibration, then it's fine, possibly even preferable. The main "fault", if you will, is that the color is a bit more intense than it should be, particularly with reds. My old Dell almost seems desaturated by comparison, on some pics...though, as I understand, it is possible to calibrate, just not as easy as some.

[sruon]

What's a good monitor that would be the closest to a CRT? Not ready to give up on mine but may consider a good LCD

[Egon]

Newb question, is there a difference between a 1080p and 1920x1080?

[sruon]

1080p is just the commercial name for 1920x1080 progressive

[Isiolia]

Newb question, is there a difference between a 1080p and 1920x1080?

Strictly speaking, 1080p is referring to 1080 lines of vertical resolution, updated via progressive scan rather than interlacing (the entire picture is drawn per update cycle, versus every other line). It doesn't have to refer to a 16:9 aspect picture, meaning 1920x1080. As an example for an exception, Lair on the PS3 is listed as 1080p native res...but it actually renders at 960x1080, not 1920x1080. The picture is just stretched to fill the screen.

Accordingly, not all 1920x1080 pictures are necessarily progressive scan, particularly when talking about CRTs or something. If interlaced, it would be 1080i.

99.9% of the time, especially in reference to LCD monitors, 1080p will simply mean 1920x1080 though...so, it's a pretty safe assumption.

[Kurp]

The review you linked to directly compares them. I personally don't have any first-hand experience with the ZR24W either, though I am now considering one as a second monitor (just have my old Dell 17" Ultrasharp (IPS) right now).

What it seems like to me is that if sRGB is important to you, then the ZR24W is possibly the better route. I know one of the few complaints with the 2475W is taming the color output. If your use doesn't demand 100% perfect calibration, then it's fine, possibly even preferable. The main "fault", if you will, is that the color is a bit more intense than it should be, particularly with reds. My old Dell almost seems desaturated by comparison, on some pics...though, as I understand, it is possible to calibrate, just not as easy as some.

I could probably get used to an extended gamut, but I wouldn't make use of it. So, an sRGB monitor makes the most sense for someone like me. That's definitely a plus for me when looking at the ZR24W.

Reviews are great, but I value actual user input as much as any review. It's a tough decision, but I'll probably end up buying a ZR24W.

[Kaisha]

So what's the difference between all these panel types exactly?


All I got me is an 24" LG W2452v (paid CDN$440 new about three years ago) which was TN based I believe, and aside from some particular niggles I've had with it (korean manual and broken drivers wtf), the display is great as far as my eyes can tell, aside from the backlight drowning out some of the greys and darker colours, which I'm assuming is still a common problem on modern LCD displays?
(it did sport wide colour gamut, but no sRGB, was a bitch to calibrate for consistency for artwork between my Mac and PC)


I just want to upgrade to a monitor that sports 3-D in a year or two of the same size (dual-monitors go!), and hoping PC monitors and HDTVs will be one and the same at that point.
(would love for component inputs alongside a couple more HDMI ports on my current monitor)

[Isiolia]

The different types are based on different technologies. Can find info in wikipedia n' other places http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_fi...rystal_display

Aanandtech had a basic comparison in an article a bit ago here http://www.anandtech.com/show/2787/2 as well.

Basically what it comes down to with TN is that the color reproduction and viewing angles are both relatively poor. TN panels use 6-bit color per channel, and thus need to use dithering to achieve the 24-bit color that video cards output, and other screen technologies display anyway. Viewing angles are also poor, with color shifting being remarkably worse on TN panels than on other technologies.
There are, of course, advantages to TN - namely that it uses less power, refreshes faster, and is cheaper. Since the average consumer knows jack shit about image quality, but is easily sold on big, cheap, and the increasingly ambiguous "response time" spec...guess what's far more common to see on the shelf?

For gaming, or day-to-day web browsing or whatnot, TN is typically fine. If you're actually creating content though, do you really want dithered color that change depending on where you're sitting?