Microsoft: No More 'Red Ring Of Death' With Xbox 360 S

[Kyo]

I went through three in a year and a half, brand new xbox's, all red ringed and I switched to PS3, bought a MGS bundle, after two years still works like a dream. I have two slims as well since last october, no problems at all. It still baffles me how anyone can justify saying the xbox is the best console this generation. I got my slim in the mail friday morning, lets see how long this one lasts.

[Korietsu]

It's shitty design and people need to stop defending it. The other consoles in this generation don't suffer from this issue. With a redesigned console, Microsoft should have corrected it, but they chose not to.

Or you can stop being a shitty electronics owner? Seriously, it's common fucking sense not to flip anything reading a disc regardless of load type, I don't even do it with my macbook pro and it has the most reliable slot load system on the market.

At least with a tray loaded system you have the chance to manually eject the disc rather than having to send your console/laptop back to the factory to have them pry it out.

[OWS_Tonx]

It just goes to show their dedication to their consumers. Seriously, if you can't fix something as simple as that...

[Elcura]

Or you can stop being a shitty electronics owner? Seriously, it's common fucking sense not to flip anything reading a disc regardless of load type, I don't even do it with my macbook pro and it has the most reliable slot load system on the market.

At least with a tray loaded system you have the chance to manually eject the disc rather than having to send your console/laptop back to the factory to have them pry it out.

Pretty much, I learned very early on that you shouldn't move a console while in operation. I'm not defending Microsoft (at least not my intention), but people who are surprised that your discs get fucked up when you violently shake around or move a console are retarded.

[Vandole]

there is a new "RRoD" message apparently. with this 360

i wonder how common it will be?

>play game for 3 hours
>get right at save point
>ITS RIGHT THERE!!
>http://i48.tinypic.com/70up0j.jpg

[Korietsu]

I've had no overheating failures with my console ever. The only failure I had was an intermittent manufacturing error where the GPU wasn't properly seated to the board on my elite. It operated for nearly 3 years, even with RROD problems. It even played while giving me a RROD, played a whole night of COD4 with that happening.

In the past month I've seen a PS3 with adequate ventilation/cleaning on a glass surface overheat and crash trying to watch youtube videos multiple times, also seen it die on demon's souls, MW2, DAO, Socom Confrontation, and fallout 3.

If you had an overheating failure it's due to the user, not to MS, either not enough exaust space, using one of the aftermarket branded intercoolers, or not cleaning the system with compressed air when noticing problems.

E74/Unreadble disc is on MS's head.

[Shojin]

In the past month I've seen a PS3 with adequate ventilation/cleaning on a glass surface overheat and crash trying to watch youtube videos multiple times

Crashing ≠ Overheating. PS3 browser is ass and is known to crash on certain things, but a shitty browser is better than none, I guess.

[Shenrien]

If you had an overheating failure it's due to the user, not to MS, either not enough exaust space, using one of the aftermarket branded intercoolers, or not cleaning the system with compressed air when noticing problems.

Your entire post was retarded and made no sense but this part stuck out to me, you do realize that using the intercoolers or whatever the fuck cause more problems then fix right?! and spraying compressed air into your console to blow out some dust wont fix the problem that the pieces holding down your CPU and GPU end up getting so hot that they warp themselves causing the console to say 'hey I'm dieing call 911'

I lay my ps3 on a carpeted floor its vent right up against my dresser just about and its been there for atleast 2 years since it fell off the top and I didn't want to move it, that is not anywhere near to proper and ideal ventilation, but I've never had a single problem with it what so ever, and I've probably got my console setup in one of the worst possible areas, sure I could move it but I don't really care.

Console has been on for 3 weeks solid playing a variation of games; CoD MF2, KZ2, GoW3, White Knight Chronicles, FFIX PS1 disk, FFVII PS1 Disk, FFX, FFXI, GTA4, FFXIII, list just keeps going on, point is because you saw some shit on youtube, doesn't mean that is how it always is, PS3 has at least a 3% defective rate on their market, maybe its higher idk I don't really wanna pull up Wiki at this time and go by the holy bible of the internet.

Having owned a 360 in the winter, the only thing it was good for, to me was heating my room, I saved a ton of money on gas this year and I wasn't even cold once, then it red ringed first day of spring when my room hit 104F because I wanted to play some Lost Planet.

edit - and I knew the 360 was shit I had that thing as far away from the wall up on my glass table in the living room, so there wasn't any need to speculate poor ventilation, that thing had all the cool air it could suck cause the windows in my place are kinda leaky and there was always an occasional woosh of cold air coming into my place.

[Elcura]

Having owned a 360 in the winter, the only thing it was good for, to me was heating my room, I saved a ton of money on gas this year and I wasn't even cold once

Lol, I used to this at uni to warm my room up (with a PS3 though). Surprisingly quite a few people I know have done this.

[Korietsu]

I've had my 360 on for 24 hour sessions of constant gameplay, have had it streaming from my PC For a week + with no issues.

I mentioned the intercoolers because they do damage the console. They void your warranty immediately the moment you plug it in. I happen to have access to both consoles, and I've physically watched a launch 60 gig ps3 that's been better taken care of than my xbox crash and overheat causing a YLOD in a better space than my Xbox.

The majority of Xbox overheating problems are either attributed to poor ventilation/positioning/cleaning. A few are due to manufacturing errors such as poor solder/thermal paste/mating of heatsink to GPU, or even improperly seated GPU. Even then the internals for almost all modern micro-processing chips are rated to 100+ ºC before failure.

I regularly run my 8800GTM in my macbook pro (which by the way, is notorious for heat problems) at 90-100 ºC under load. When those chips are made, they're made to operate at their advertised speed and efficiency in the worst possible scenario, and run better in average and perfect conditions.

In your case you got a shittly manufactured xbox, and should have immediately sent it back under the warranty period, and gotten a new box, end of story.

[Charismatic]

So, people take good care of all systems aside from the Xbox 360, right?
I mean... people on their 4th 360 but first PS3 and Wii are just fucking up when it comes to the 360 only, right?

Couldn't possibly be that those 360s are fucked up. Ain't that right Korietsu?

[Xno Kappa]

I've had my 360 on for 24 hour sessions of constant gameplay, have had it streaming from my PC For a week + with no issues.

I mentioned the intercoolers because they do damage the console. They void your warranty immediately the moment you plug it in. I happen to have access to both consoles, and I've physically watched a launch 60 gig ps3 that's been better taken care of than my xbox crash and overheat causing a YLOD in a better space than my Xbox.

The majority of Xbox overheating problems are either attributed to poor ventilation/positioning/cleaning. A few are due to manufacturing errors such as poor solder/thermal paste/mating of heatsink to GPU, or even improperly seated GPU. Even then the internals for almost all modern micro-processing chips are rated to 100+ ºC before failure.

I regularly run my 8800GTM in my macbook pro (which by the way, is notorious for heat problems) at 90-100 ºC under load. When those chips are made, they're made to operate at their advertised speed and efficiency in the worst possible scenario, and run better in average and perfect conditions.

In your case you got a shittly manufactured xbox, and should have immediately sent it back under the warranty period, and gotten a new box, end of story.

I mean no disrespect but what exactly is your fucking point? Unless you're trying to say how badass you are that you've never had your Xbox die, please shut up with this whole "itz teh userz fault!" Your posts so far have seemed nothing less then Xbox fanboyish.

[Atreides]

my DS has broken more times than my 360, I have the worst luck with those fucking hinges

[Korietsu]

Sure, if you've got both the systems in the same space with the same amount of care taken its obviously a manufacturing error. I'm not denying that there is some shitty QA with X360, but you also have to realize that the majority of the users are retarded frat boys or 12 yearolds with mics.

The average PS3 user is the age group on BG, and are more often than not sensible people that can take care of electronics, but apparently can't exercise the basic knowledge they gained when they got their first CD player because they're bitching about the new system not having a slot loading drive.

Hell, how many of you have ever bricked a nintendo system in your life? Nintendo's build quality is out of this world compared to both sony and nintendo. I've bricked one N64 and that was because I took it outside in the sand and dust in 100ºf weather. Took it apart, cleaned it, worked like new.

The point is, I play on both systems, I've seen both's faults. Yes the PS3 is more reliable, but you can't attribute everything that's wrong with X360 solely to MS just because it's hip to hate on them.

[Kaisha]

my DS has broken more times than my 360, I have the worst luck with those fucking hinges

On my third DS Lite because of those (all within warranty), this one is cracked also (hell, even my sisters') but it's been pretty pro at holding itself together, nothing major so far, and I've had it three years now.

[Doombear]

Only time will tell as to whether or not the new model holds up & even then I imagine the first few that do break are just going to re-ignite this whole "MS doesn't care about us, the consumers!" fest...

That said, I would probably putting less faith in this model & be more upset that I am on my 3rd Xbox had MS not repaired the prev ious 2 for no cost.

I am essentially getting 130 more GB & a wifi ready upgrade for about $50. I won't say that peace of mind (delusional or not... we shall see) wasn't also a very large factor. For me it just makes sense to upgrade.

I have never had issues with my Wii, PS3 or (modded) PSP but that doesn't really have anything at ALL to do with whether I enjoy the games I play on them.

[Mizango]

DDK, doin work.