FFXI Version Update (6/21/10)

[Xerlic]

Also, KI and Alla rdm forums will be entertaining after today.

KI's RDM forum already has the "I hate you S-E" thread.

[Dooom]

Inb4 emergency maint. for surprise nerf

Your avatar seems strangely appropriate. The nerf to rdm (and, by extension, nin/drk and nin/rdm tanking) has me pissed off.

[Darkmagi]

Hey guess what, RDM was never meant to be a tank.

hey fuck you buddy

[ronin sparthos]

Lol, Abyssea, whilst interesting, doesn't merit a new expansion-type dealy with you can only play 30m-120m every day. That's bull. Glad I didn't pre-order this. Will wait for everyone else who bought and decide if its any good til I go buy me some lolage.

Even the Add-ons, which were basically you paying for 3 items of customisable gear, can be used 24/7. GG SE, GG.

Uh what? I know people are in armflail mode but all of the keys are once/day with ASA/MKE/ACP. Sure you can do the BCNMs on and on but you only get rewarded once/day.

[Khiinroye]

For the confused people:
Walk of echos: 30 min timer, vanadiel day timer for entry medallion.
Abyssea: 3 stones max, increases to 4 somehow; 20 hr timer on stones, 30 min per stone (you can use multiple stones per visit).

[Shenrien]

See :/ I read the entire thing and the only thing that has me worried is this enmity generating from Sleep and Bind, NIN/DRK is probably my favorite job I'm going to be very sad if they take this away from me.

[Jeryhn]

And this is pretty much 100% refresh will not work either.

Where did you see that in the update notes?
Did you know that RDM's Refresh is the only form that isn't AoE?

SE probably doesn't think Refreshga is too powerful, but we all know they've been bastards about Haste before.

[Buffy]

I don't understand the no AoE refresh people. AoE refresh is available this update via rdm/sch. Wouldn't they have specifically mentioned it like they did haste?

[Alkar]

i didnt either
glad I'm not the only one

Ok I've seen the change lol. They've added stats for a few weapons when you click on them except the only stats you can see are DMG: and Delay:
Look like base weapons for moogle trials and all weapons are level 80.

[Hyan]

KI's RDM forum already has the "I hate you S-E" thread.

Yeah but it was just the usual grumble "we didn't get as much toys as other jobs did* talk.

Can't wait to check it out tomorrow!

[Mrbeansman]

Hey guess what, RDM was never meant to be a tank.

Ninja says hi.

[Avarice]

I'm fine with most of the update, it's just the whole Abyssea Time Limit thing that really gets me - what's the point, honestly?

[SirJimmyChang]

For the confused people:
Walk of echos: 30 min timer, vanadiel day timer for entry medallion.
Abyssea: 3 stones max, increases to 4 somehow; 20 hr timer on stones, 30 min per stone (you can use multiple stones per visit).

It's like SE put Assaults, Limbus, Salvage, Dynamis, Campaign, and Einherjar in a blender and made Abyssea.

[Damane]

The best part about Haste not AoE'ing is they were nice enough to not mention it in the job adjustments...It really is sickening...25 more levels of spammage...

And this is pretty much 100% refresh will not work either.

Never doubt the fuckyoupower of SE.

I dont understand SE, first they said they designed SCH as primary SJ, then they nerf one of the biggest aspects it gives as a SJ. Total bullshit. The rest however looks good on this update.

I mean who the fuck will sub SCH if Aoe Haste/refresh etc doestn work, when you can have a full convert with /RDM...

[travOtaku]

Do the requirements for Abyssea say anything about each party member needing to expel the items in order to enter? Or does the Party leader just have to worry about it? If not everyone gives up their stones in order to enter, wouldn't that make it very accessible?

I reread all the notes and didn't see anything about this, but could have overlooked a stray line somewhere.

[Spira]

kinda upset by the Aquaveil nerf... but I'm pretty sure I can still make up for the bonus from the spell thru eq on my RDM so its not so bad...

[Draylo]

BLU > RDM tank now

[Dooom]

See :/ I read the entire thing and the only thing that has me worried is this enmity generating from Sleep and Bind, NIN/DRK is probably my favorite job I'm going to be very sad if they take this away from me.

Yeah, I miss nin/drk given that pretty much everything I do now is already best done through DD tanks, and now this is the final nail in the coffin I fear. I'm trying not to be all doom and gloom (pun unintended) and that it may only be a very marginal decrease in enmity, but I doubt it.

Positives:

Cruor
"Cruor" is a versatile substance which serves as the currency in Abyssea. It can be obtained by defeating monsters or as rewards for quest completion. There are NPCs who will accept your cruor and offer equipment and key items in exchange. Cruor is also the power source needed to activate the aforementioned teleportation devices.

Yay for a new Assault Points/Ichor-esque system at last? Or perhaps it'll be more like AN/IS/CP and not really end up being used for much useful.

[Therin]

Bitch bitch bitch, whine whine whine.

Until 15 minutes from now when .dat results start getting posted and we get collective circle jerks going on.

[Benevolentone]

Hey guess what, RDM was never meant to be a tank.

Hey guess what, neither was DRK but that doesn't stop them from doing it. Why kill RDM and /RDM? It is so pointless. This is way out of left field for SE here honestly. I mean at least the nerfs I remember were all because something was exploited or too powerful but killing a tank job off? That is stupid.