June 21 Update - Data Mining Discussion

[Cahlum]

Clearly says
*Future version updates will allow players to upgrade Empyrean Weapons through Trial of the Maigans and other systems.

[dejet]

File check still coming up with squat for people ?


*Edit I guess so*

maybe the servers go down for 3 hours then files come out at the end ...

squares way of fucking with the dat miners...

its starting to work for some.

[Eleven19]

Well, SE has made a distinction between these Abyssea expansions (which are called "battlegrounds") and the previous downloadable expansions (the add-on scenarios). I would figure that these would have no real story or plot but would really just be battlegrounds to fight in for gear and loot, and as such have no "reward" at the end to claim.

Oh, well, then.. hm. Couldn't imagine then what you'd have to do to get those weapons. Does walk of echoes have something to do with it perhaps?

[noodles355]

It's like 5-7%, so hugely helpful.

Not a relic holder and was curious so had to ask!

[Cahlum]

Im betting eventually walk of echoes will be af3

[BerenTebogo]

Not a relic holder and was curious so had to ask!

5% proc rate is hugely dwarfed by some of these increases in base damage.

DRG weapon, for example, will do more damage than modified Gungnir even with triple proc (math off the top of my head, at worst it's neck and neck)

[dejet]

Im sorta wondering wtf is with the WoE/ capped zone buy anyone can enter. Going to really be odd if you get one asshole that runs in agros everything and what not.

Hope there is some way that if your in a ally you can force a new zone or something(making it somewhat easy for LS to form)

[Cahlum]

You get a seal from a moogle so maybe it acts like a lamp in einherjar or something

[noodles355]

lol'd

Gonna have to forgive me for potentially being retarded (again, 'aint you gotten used to it by now?!) but is this rdm-tanking-nerf just due to the enmity change in bind/blind/etc? Or did I miss something else?

[Khellendros]

Am I the only one thinking these weapons will be the final reward from Abyssea or something? Will probably be like the other add-on rewards and provide you with 3 augmentations of your choice.

I was thinking that each weapon would have a pool of like 6 or 7 augments to choose from and that you could eventually choose 2 of them in the end to make your weapon unique or more efficient for your job.

Like Verethragna having potential augments for Repair, Reducing chances of Overload, or Enhancing Kick Attacks, Augmenting Counter, etc.

[Hyan]

Gonna have to forgive me for potentially being retarded (again, 'aint you gotten used to it by now?!) but is this rdm-tanking-nerf just due to the enmity change in bind/blind/etc? Or did I miss something else?

Could take it to PM's tbh :/ dat mining etc

[Belkin]

Was anybody else concerned with the lines

"The 75 level restriction will be lifted for Battlefields."

I could be reading this wrong out of context, but wtf? If this means they are only lifting the cap for battlefield shit, I will be all 10 kinds of pissed off.

[Darkmagi]

BCNMs and such have a 75 level cap icon.

[Khellendros]

Was anybody else concerned with the lines

"The 75 level restriction will be lifted for Battlefields."

I could be reading this wrong out of context, but wtf? If this means they are only lifting the cap for battlefield shit, I will be all 10 kinds of pissed off.

I think that might just be for CoP Missions, like Tenzen which is capped at 75.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Was anybody else concerned with the lines

"The 75 level restriction will be lifted for Battlefields."

I could be reading this wrong out of context, but wtf? If this means they are only lifting the cap for battlefield shit, I will be all 10 kinds of pissed off.

there are some battle fields that cap you at 75 ( i believe KSBNM are an example)

They are removing those caps from those battlefields, no biggy.

[Byrthnoth]

Bind/Blind/Sleep/Sleep II/Dispel/lolBlind II, yeah. The main RDM spell rotation people use for hate, and then also lolBlind II for good measure.

RDM has Gravity, Poison, Poison II, and Barspells for VE, and Cure 4 for CE. Or they could let Paladin do the tanking (Flash for VE, Cure 4 for CE.) RDM will be casting faster and more often due to 2MP/tick refresh and Convert, but they don't have Atonement or any of those nice JAs PLD has. It'll still be possible, but it'd be a big stretch to call it worthwhile.

[Aramaic]

That statement is too vague for me to even begin to think about what it means. I was hoping for a list of level capped zones or areas or battlefields but I guess that is too much to ask lol.

[Belkin]

Phew, close call. Thanks for clearing that up

[IronPandemonium]

"The 75 level restriction will be lifted for Battlefields."

i'm fairly certain they meant it in the sense of, say (prime example imo), cop tenzen where once you enter, it "caps" you at lv75 just to reset buffs (ideally tp) because they're slick

edit: beat by a mile, whoops ;z

[Eldelphia]

I've rehosted the Empyrean Weapons stats on my blog. I'm sure I'm not the only one. But holy crap at the damage on the club for WHM (followed by... WHY?!)

Kinda glad to see no RDM or WHM on the staff but wondering what BLM and SCH have in common with SMN...