Walk of Echoes

[Thorny]

Or, perhaps day is entirely irrelevant and people are idiots. You realize the person you're listening to these theories from is retardedly gimp and the only reason his shell even wins chambers is because they bring 25+, right?

Have killed crabs on both water and thunder(not deliberately, just stayed there a few hours) and #4 isn't unlocked.

[Karbuncle]

Its related to the # of wins in given chamber.

And i'm relatively certain Altanas threw in "Thunderday" as a slice of useless-but-could-prove-useful information similar to how people who augmented armor used to post "Moon phase" back when it was first introduced, it was the replies to his thundersday comment who made it the theory.

So don't be so angrah brah

[Kegsay]

Walk of Echoes notes from POL:

Conquer each battlefield in succession, and the opportunity to square off against mightier foes and reap richer rewards shall be granted to you.

I would read that as most likely win the chamber multiple times in a row without losing.

[Karbuncle]

Walk of Echoes notes from POL:


I would read that as most likely win the chamber multiple times in a row without losing.

So yah, "#" of wins.

yay

[Altanass]

I'm sorry Thorny that I have friends that I like to group up with in an MMO and that your own linkshell dwindled due to your oh so friendly personality. Then of course you dress up your recruitment threads stating members left for RL or for 14, and advertise as a casual shell when you run events every day all evening. You should perhaps look through your message history and see what kind of person you are. My own linkshell grew because I am nothing like you. Our officers dont horde drops and gil to themselves under the guise of lowmanning. We're happy for members to get drops and payouts. All of our members now have everything they want from #1#2#3. And I get by fine without a duped morrigans.

People have been spamming WOE since June and there is nothing wrong with covering theories from every angle. Many were left frustrated the chambers were not opening and so theorised. None of the theories in this thread are far fetched. They are not ebon panel lolworthy. The fact that I stated the day was in aid of another poster who mentioned that theory a few days ago. Other theories such as " !!! "weakneses are still just theories and there is no solid information on forcing it. I would have thought you of all people would realise theories cannot be explored without all variables being covered.

Also, our runs can be lowman all the way up to 36 depending on whose on. There are hardly any WOE shells so of course the few that there are will be maxing out on members especially at weekends. We dont force anyone to come to events but because we are so nice everyone wants to come =)

I could have just not posted and whore'd all the drops off in WG for massively extortionate prices, but I chose to spread the information. In turn everyone benefits including smaller groups such as yours. The more info you have the easier it can be. If you have nothing to add to the thread, dont post.

And to everyone else, fingers crossed to open up #6 in the next few days !

Also speaking " !!! " weakness, we didnt do any on the crabs bosses in the run before #4 opened
It seems almost confirmed now that simply winning the chamber x amount of times unlocks the next tier (and how did i know this, because i tested a theory and kept a note of facts!). The reason why there were theories were because of shells since June could not unlock anything at all (as a side note, Belkin from earlier in the thread seems to have been the first consistent shell to win, and his server took ages to unlock 5; he was winning #2 tons before asura was) so people naturally thought there was a trick to it

Included a map for layout: i'm pretty sure it was just 4 khim's, although it was at 2am lol will confirm next run >>

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/Altanas/woe4.jpg

[Karbuncle]

Quick thing Alt bud, Theres 3 in the room with "two" shown (5 total) if i recall =)

[Thorny]

I'm sorry Thorny that I have friends that I like to group up with in an MMO and that your own linkshell dwindled due to your oh so friendly personality.

My linkshell has 18-20 people at most events nowadays, most of the 14 players returned, and I actually have more than I'd like atm.

Then of course you dress up your recruitment threads stating members left for RL or for 14, and advertise as a casual shell when you run events every day all evening.

None of the events are mandatory, it has no kings camps either. I don't see how that's not casual comparatively. Besides, you're running 4 days a week for an event that has basically nothing to gain in it.. I'm sure 90% of your members have other shells for real events. What's your point exactly?

You should perhaps look through your message history and see what kind of person you are. My own linkshell grew because I am nothing like you. Our officers dont horde drops and gil to themselves under the guise of lowmanning. We're happy for members to get drops and payouts. All of our members now have everything they want from #1#2#3. And I get by fine without a duped morrigans.

My salvage gear isn't duped. I don't horde drops or gil. Your linkshell grew because you're willing to accept people like this:

Spoiler: show

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...2-16-47-19.jpg

People have been spamming WOE since June and there is nothing wrong with covering theories from every angle. Many were left frustrated the chambers were not opening and so theorised. None of the theories in this thread are far fetched. They are not ebon panel lolworthy. The fact that I stated the day was in aid of another poster who mentioned that theory a few days ago. Other theories such as " !!! "weakneses are still just theories and there is no solid information on forcing it. I would have thought you of all people would realise theories cannot be explored without all variables being covered.

They can. Claiming day of the week would unlock a chamber is not a sound theory, it's been debunked dozens of times. !! theories, # of consecutive wins, # of clears, are viable.

Also, our runs can be lowman all the way up to 36 depending on whose on. There are hardly any WOE shells so of course the few that there are will be maxing out on members especially at weekends. We dont force anyone to come to events but because we are so nice everyone wants to come =)

I don't force anyone to go to events either. Cool assumptions, dipshit.. and there are hardly any WoE shells because any competent endgame shell can stomp the shit out of it if their members are so inclined.

I could have just not posted and whore'd all the drops off in WG for massively extortionate prices, but I chose to spread the information. In turn everyone benefits including smaller groups such as yours. The more info you have the easier it can be. If you have nothing to add to the thread, dont post.

My group won 1-3 with <10 before the nerf. We don't really care to hear obvious things about the fights. If you honestly think you've presented useful information or done anything besides talk about your shell, you're pretty misled. Granted, that's pretty obvious looking at the other things you said in this post.

Anyway, whining aside, my point was merely that day of the week has no basis and it's stupid to keep dragging out theories that were weak at best to begin with. Focus on things that haven't been disproven, I know for a fact my server is >40 slime wins >20 crab and we haven't gotten conflux 4/5.. so time requirement for wins?

[Karbuncle]

Could be related to the amount of Exp gained inside.

Could also be related to Consecutive wins, so if you have a bunch of solo/low man farming coins not caring about win going inbetween you and your LS, It could be fucking it up.

Edit: Also, Thorny, Alt, You both right in some ways.

Altanas clearly favors the company of friends to efficiently getting things done low man, There's nothing wrong with that.

Thorny prefers efficient, Low-man no joke winning, he prefers to get things done as quickly and as painlessly as possible in the shortest amount of time with the fewest people, and again, theres absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I personally prefer the company of friends, low man or not, in any event, as long as its enjoyable for me.

You're both great leaders in your own right, with just greatly different leadership styles.

Thorny accepts only the cream of the crop, the top of the top, the best of the best, so he doesn't have to babysit them.

Alt accepts all applicants with an equal chance to prove themselves, learn, adapt, and gear better through advice and friends.

Both acceptable leadership styles, nothing to argue over, we all play the same game we should all try and figure things out together, not bicker amongst ourselves like angry children over the last "red ball" in the toy bin.

I'd Imagine men who claim the intellect that you do would see this is true.

[vagus]

Karbuncle seems to speak some common sense. Lol. Anyways enough off the penis slapping. If the theory is that you need 20-25 wins for the lower chambers to open a middle one. Anyone have any strats for the antlion low many wise. I'm talking about 10ish players. The boss with lasers is insane. I'm thinking blm and rng's to stay out of range of its AoE and atleast 2 tanks.

[Flic]

Just a note thorny, 5s been open since sunday on our server.

[Arouz]

6 is open on asura aswell

[ronin sparthos]

Karbuncle seems to speak some common sense. Lol. Anyways enough off the penis slapping. If the theory is that you need 20-25 wins for the lower chambers to open a middle one. Anyone have any strats for the antlion low many wise. I'm talking about 10ish players. The boss with lasers is insane. I'm thinking blm and rng's to stay out of range of its AoE and atleast 2 tanks.

I spied on a JP shell that was going with about 14 players for Antlions and they basically just fished out the bosses, stuck avatars on it and spread the fuck out. Harassing the boss with avatars was pretty much the only way to not get raped.

Personally it seems more petburn friendly with Mandibular Bite going through shadows, Quake Blast removing gear and Gravatic Horn resetting hate.

[Altanass]

regarding #6

? x smilodon mobs "pardus", uses claw cyclone, crossthrash, roar, firaga2

2 x canis duris (cerb)

drops:

katipo charm, MDB1 ENM4 level 80 neck, war/pld/drk/bst/sam/nin/drg
shifting necklace, dex5 agi-3, level 79 neck, all jobs
quarts charm mp5 mnd2, level 78, all jobs

[Karbuncle]

Don't think Shifting Necklace beats Kubira for SA does it =.=a? Sad day.

Quarts Charm is the "best" Potency ranged for RDM Yes? (slow/para i mean)

That Katipo Charm is the best Enm Neck for NIN and PLD yeah? Haven't done the proper research =x

[Jaxzer]

Karbuncle seems to speak some common sense. Lol. Anyways enough off the penis slapping. If the theory is that you need 20-25 wins for the lower chambers to open a middle one. Anyone have any strats for the antlion low many wise. I'm talking about 10ish players. The boss with lasers is insane. I'm thinking blm and rng's to stay out of range of its AoE and atleast 2 tanks.

BST Vega


BST

[Cream Soda]

Ok, can I go w/ 5-7 to farm coins? Looking for coin of advancement for mnk h2h. Set-up/strat for slime one (I think no. 2)

[ccl]

Ok, can I go w/ 5-7 to farm coins? Looking for coin of advancement for mnk h2h. Set-up/strat for slime one (I think no. 2)

We do slime with 5 and it's easy win, maybe can be done with less. We use mnk/nin *2 rdm and whm, one healer focusing on each mnk.

For the pull we use a pld/whm (for rr); aggro the mob, a mnk pull boss out of pld and fight on stair, pld die, reraise, block any mob that link after boss is killed and when mp are ready pull next boss.

Repeat till all boss death. The advantage of only 5 is everyone get a solo chest if no one else go in.

Just make sure whoever sack and die is outside the party to avoid party hate.

[Cream Soda]

Awesome thanks. Hopefully doesn't take too long to get my coins. Frayed pouch would do well!

[Atoreis]

What's a best way to farm coins duo and with lowman like 5? I care only to get as many coins as possible not items or winning. Im on server that dont realy care to get next conflux too.
Which conflux would be best for this? what method? Coins im looking for are Coins of glory and Coins of decay.

[hexagram23]

What's a best way to farm coins duo and with lowman like 5? I care only to get as many coins as possible not items or winning. Im on server that dont realy care to get next conflux too.
Which conflux would be best for this? what method? Coins im looking for are Coins of glory and Coins of decay.

You can duo/trio #1 and #3. Kinda need specific jobs to duo, you can trio with virtually any combo as long as you got a healer and someone that can take a few hits.

In 45 min, if you don't slack off, you can kill every small mob. 2-3 coins on average drop each run. Obviously some times you won't get any and/or it won't be the coins you want, but considering you can do this 24/7 it's not a bad way to stack coins. I'm 21/30 on Coin of Birth mostly from low man farming the coins. Good luck.