Walk of Echoes

[Yugl]

It's reasonable in my opinion. New gear is increasingly specialized (AF3) and creating inventory space. Of all sets for mages to trash, hMP is likely to go first since almost no one rests in Abyssea and outside abyssea is magian trials for the most part.

[hexagram23]

er #2 is pretty easy to clear with a small group. We have good but not uber pimped players and we manage just fine. Accessories keep mages happy, or if you're capped then you sell/split. Melee get coins. Don't see the issue.

The issue is people obviously don't have 6-10 people to do these zones, otherwise they wouldn't be asking how do you farm with 3-4 for the last couple of pages. So people telling them "you can win with 6-10" is pointless. They don't have 6-10.

[Gerkin]

The issue is people obviously don't have 6-10 people to do these zones, otherwise they wouldn't be asking how do you farm with 3-4 for the last couple of pages. So people telling them "you can win with 6-10" is pointless. They don't have 6-10.

2 monks, bard, rdm, whm (5) could win every single time.

[hexagram23]

2 monks, bard, rdm, whm (5) could win every single time.

5 is not 4. It's also not 2 or 3.

Besides, that's assuming you have the jobs you mentioned. Virtually any combination of melee, and 1-2 mages can duo/trio all day and night. If people had the means to make groups of 5+ with specific jobs they wouldn't be asking for tips on duoing/trioing.

[vagus]

If you only have 3-4. Might be a good idea to shout and find 3-4 more people and win chambers.

[hexagram23]

If you only have 3-4. Might be a good idea to shout and find 3-4 more people and win chambers.

I have no idea what Odin is like but there is zero interest in WoE on Titan. I leave my character in the zone for 12 hours at a time, checking on it periodically while afk and it's empty literally 99% of the time. Shouting for WoE will just make people ask "what is WoE?". These aren't the type of people you want to do events with.

You don't have to win chambers to get coins fast. I'm currently 21/30 on Birth, 17/30 on Glory, 9/30 on Decay and 24/30 on LOLRuin mostly from low man farming. It's a lot better than shouting all day and/or waiting for the right job combination to join so you can clear the zone. WoE isn't exactly popular on most servers.

[Katoke]

Ok lets all just say ok to Hex and we see his horrible point and move on and keep to the discussion: Chamber 2 can be cleared with 5 people, albeit this can be randy's or friends , if you know how to communicate what your doing. Just cleared today with 6 and a dual box in 30 minutes, no deaths. So, can be done with right gear/jobs. In the 4 bosses we got 2 coins of ruin. I can't really speak for the coin rate outside of not having TH, but it hasn't been good enough to where I feel like I wanted to go and farm with 2-3 people on baby mobs.

[hexagram23]

Ok lets all just say ok to Hex and we see his horrible point and move on and keep to the discussion: Chamber 2 can be cleared with 5 people, albeit this can be randy's or friends , if you know how to communicate what your doing. Just cleared today with 6 and a dual box in 30 minutes, no deaths. So, can be done with right gear/jobs. In the 4 bosses we got 2 coins of ruin. I can't really speak for the coin rate outside of not having TH, but it hasn't been good enough to where I feel like I wanted to go and farm with 2-3 people on baby mobs.

People asked "how do you low man farm single mobs?". Everyone said "lol just clear the zone with 6-10 people". People are giving answers to a question that nobody asked. No shit you can clear the zone with 6-10 people "with the right gear and jobs". That wasn't what was asked. If that was feasible for them they wouldn't be asking about doing this with 2-3 people.

And I can speak on coin drop rates off single mobs. I've low man farmed and I've cleared the zones. Unless you can call on 6-10 other people "with the right jobs and gear" at any hour of day/night I don't see how that's better than duoing/trioing which can be done basically 24/7 with virtually any job combination.

[Psion]

So TH affects the drop rate of coins?

[vagus]

Being forced to go in with only 2-3 people is a great way to get coins. Especially when you don't go to WoE at all.

[Psion]

On a side note, how the heck do you people pull isolated mobs? Tried to fight slimes solo since valoredge can solo a baby on his own, but all the babies and big blobs stayed in one spot and never moved, and trying to death pull one was an absolute bitch since they stuck together. Is there a way to make them scatter, or is it just a unique trait of slimes to stay together?

[Eldelphia]

melee get coins? I have no issue taking rank 3-5th on Bard.. could probably rank higher if I would be refresh II'd at all times.. but my Red Mage is usually a tard..

/sigh - really? Was it worth it?

We have lots of people with multiple jobs... who are interested in coins. None of the pure mages are currently interested in upgrading a mage weapon. We've had mages land in the top 5 too... but its usually tanks/melee. My point was that I don't have a single person interested in upgrading a mage weapon. Only melee weapons. Peeps interested in accessories are happy, peeps upgrading melee weapons are happy.

As for the comment about low manning. Basically kill something and move away from its death spot. If other stuff is coming in, it will go to where the mob died. Or just sac pull some stuff with the puller outside the party (alliance hate) and grab a mob off them. You won't be winning zones like this but you'll kill a lot of individual mobs.

[Psion]

I'm not talking about lowmanning, i'm talking about soloing. How do people manage to get a mob by itself solo, for all those times you can't find anyone to do it besides yourself? I can solo the stupid things easy if i could just get the slimes by themselves but instead its a clusterfuck of one momma and 4 babies at once and they don't like separating when I drag em away either.

[chazzyphizzle]

you can't solo slimes without a sac unless you can pull with your automaton and it works like carby pulling.

[Darkmagi]

I'm not talking about lowmanning, i'm talking about soloing. How do people manage to get a mob by itself solo, for all those times you can't find anyone to do it besides yourself? I can solo the stupid things easy if i could just get the slimes by themselves but instead its a clusterfuck of one momma and 4 babies at once and they don't like separating when I drag em away either.

Do Antlions or crabs for solo/duo farming.

[Eldelphia]

Do Antlions or crabs for solo/duo farming.

Yeah, there's at least one solo crab when you zone in.

[Seol]

Been farming coins with 5-8 ppl (1 of them is a mule) most of the time is 6 (counting the mule to sac) and it's working like wonders for coins, since the personal chests almost always give a pouch, even if it's not the coins you are after, it just builds up on coins you might use later on, the less ppl you take, less competency on coins on main chest, and less ppl to win rank chests. When we do 6 ppl everyone gets a chests which is an extra chance @coins. I've done around 15 runs with this group, and I'm already 16/30 on coins of birth, I'm only after Birth atm, which is what I lot from main chests/mobs' drops. But I already have 9Decay 12Advancement, 20lolRuin, 3Glory from pouches in personal chests I win as RDM. This "kinda" would put me @1coin/per run, if I don't count all the coins/pouches I've lost lot on (around 5coins/3pouches).

P.S. Coins/Pouches of Ruin need to stop droping too often

[Uubu]

Been farming coins with 5-8 ppl (1 of them is a mule) most of the time is 6 (counting the mule to sac) and it's working like wonders for coins, since the personal chests almost always give a pouch, even if it's not the coins you are after, it just builds up on coins you might use later on, the less ppl you take, less competency on coins on main chest, and less ppl to win rank chests. When we do 6 ppl everyone gets a chests which is an extra chance @coins. I've done around 15 runs with this group, and I'm already 16/30 on coins of birth, I'm only after Birth atm, which is what I lot from main chests/mobs' drops. But I already have 9Decay 12Advancement, 20lolRuin, 3Glory from pouches in personal chests I win as RDM. This "kinda" would put me @1coin/per run, if I don't count all the coins/pouches I've lost lot on (around 5coins/3pouches).

P.S. Coins/Pouches of Ruin need to stop droping too often

what job setup do you bring along? ive only tried WoE 3 or so times. Tried to do the sac thing and didnt work our very well, had war/sam war/sam rdm whm brd dnc and the krabtakoa crab took us down 1 by 1, wasthinking a pld and watercarol might make things easier.

[Loan]

what job setup do you bring along? ive only tried WoE 3 or so times. Tried to do the sac thing and didnt work our very well, had war/sam war/sam rdm whm brd dnc and the krabtakoa crab took us down 1 by 1, wasthinking a pld and watercarol might make things easier.

I think they're doing Slimes..

[Altanass]

we did a series of runs tonight,

vates cape 22hp to mp and -7 enmity from #4, has that been reported yet?

new drop from #6 is
Accord Hat, level 77 smn, def18, blood pact ability delay -4, fenrir perp cost -1

and member said they got fugacity mantle in a #6 coffer def10 agi3 eva11 war/mnk/rdm/thf/pld/drk/bst/brd/rng/sam/nin/drg/blu/cor/dnc