Walk of Echoes

[hexagram23]

I also don't believe they intended to allow people to join a run 5 minutes before the final boss is killed and then lot the entire treasure pool, but it's certainly allowable with the current rules. The overall format needs a change because that -has- happened to me before, and I'm sure it's happened to others and will happen again in the future.

And I agree.

Like I said, if people want to criticize the ranking system directly, the coins being untradable, mob behavior, etc. I support that 100%. I do not support people whining about "bu bu but they were in MY ZONE!" off general principle, just because "these other guys" zoned in, and I don't mean 40 minutes into the run.

[revear1]

So my linkshell won Conflux 7 4 times last night. Yeib that does all normal drg crap.
The Vortexs are lawl easy killed. most coins in 1 run was 2xbirth 1xadvance 1xdecay and like 3 pouches in chests.
70hp->Mp boots
20attack 5 sub blow mantle
5str neck
All in all mantle= the sex

[Cream Soda]

WoE can eat a dick. someone just got a pouch in their chest for advancement and got 10 coins. been spamming this shit for like 2 weeks now and only have 8 advancement

[Devolver]

WoE ain't been vacant "90% of the time" on our server in a long, long time. Groups have been low man farming and clearing zones pretty much 24/7. It's pretty obvious from FFXIAH.com that people do WoE daily.

Aside from NA primetime and JP primetime and discounting afk people who sit there, there's rarely ever more than 3 people there.

there is WoE drops I put in there as the 1st or 2nd one in existence on our server, 4+ months ago. I got pics from July 3rd of me getting the 1st Heliodor on our server, from a run I led. Why? Because I was leading WoE runs back when nobody knew what the hell they were doing.

That's great and all, but with 95% of the information in the zone so readily available, I don't see how you 'doing it first' and 'getting the first'....whatever translates you into 'knowing more'. Maybe back when the zone was still new that could of held some water, but now? Just some dick-wavin'.

I understand you were just trying to prove a point earlier. But with all the e-peen-ing? That's pure hilarity. Especially the 'You are one of the main reasons its popular on the server now' etc etc. I, for sure, got my 7 chuckles from that.

[Mazmaz]

20attack 5 sub blow mantle

All in all mantle= the sex

WOW a Charger's Mantle with 5 SB!? OMG

[hexagram23]

Aside from NA primetime and JP primetime and discounting afk people who sit there, there's rarely ever more than 3 people there.



That's great and all, but with 95% of the information in the zone so readily available, I don't see how you 'doing it first' and 'getting the first'....whatever translates you into 'knowing more'. Maybe back when the zone was still new that could of held some water, but now? Just some dick-wavin'.

I understand you were just trying to prove a point earlier. But with all the e-peen-ing? That's pure hilarity. Especially the 'You are one of the main reasons its popular on the server now' etc etc. I, for sure, got my 7 chuckles from that.

I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about. There is 20+ people there right now, and has been for the last few hours, on a Wednesday afternoon. This is the norm now, and has been for a long time, daily. I'm actually in the zone daily, you aren't. I kinda doubt you Search it every few hours for no reason, and even if you did you'd see it has people in it. Again, check FFXIAH. At any given point there is 3-5+ of each item, daily. Sales of 2-3 each, daily. FFXIAH.com shows multiple sales of items from each Conflux open, daily, and it's been that way for months.

What I'm saying isn't "e-peen", it's reality. Hell you wasn't in there 5 months ago either, so I'm kinda confused how you could know what I did or didn't do. I led one of if not the first win on our server, FFXIAH backs that up, and continued to do so for 4 months when hardly anybody was in the zone. I taught a good 10+ LSs how to win in that time frame, not counting individuals and low man farming. So if that's not popularizing something, I dunno what is. Hell, actually ask around if you don't believe me. You aren't in WoE....basically ever....so I don't really understand how you can speak on who did or didn't popularize it. Me, Wiggan from Karasu, Ramtrill from Wayward and maybe 1-2 other people jump-started WoE on Titan.

And if you're going to quote me and ask why I said something, get the context right. The person I responded to said I should "start leading WoE runs myself before I speak on it". So yes, I kinda have to "swing my e-peen" and mention that I was leading winning runs 5 months ago, before him or "95% of the people" knew what they were doing. It's not as if I just came into the thread bragging for no reason.

[Devolver]

I kinda doubt you Search it every few hours for no reason, and even if you did you'd see it has people in it.

Oh, but I do.

At any given point there is 3-5+ of each item, daily. Sales of 2-3 each, daily. FFXIAH.com shows multiple sales of items from each Conflux open, daily, and it's been that way for months.

ITT: Items on the AH = Packed WoE.

so I'm kinda confused how you could know what I did or didn't do. I led one of if not the first win on our server

I have not once discounted you clearing zones or completing weapons, So, I would agree, you are confused.

And if you're going to quote me and ask why I said something, get the context right. The person I responded to said I should "start leading WoE runs myself before I speak on it".

I had the context right, I even mentioned in my post that 'you were trying to prove a point' to whoever the other guy was. So once again, your confusion might be coming back.

So yes, I kinda have to "swing my e-peen" and mention that I was leading winning runs 5 months ago, before him or "95% of the people" knew what they were doing. It's not as if I just came into the thread bragging for no reason.

Here's the thing, what you need to realize that just because you did it 5 months ago, 10 months ago, or 10 years ago. Time does not equal knowledge. Maybe then, but now, the information is 2 clicks of a mouse away. And because you were there to go through the trial-and-error phase of strategies for each conflux doesn't make you a god-send. And for the record, if the weapons were shit, people wouldn't do the event. The gear makes (made) the event "popular", not you.

I would also venture to guess that you used some information that was on this very website from people from other servers doing it also! Or perhaps you're the pioneer of FF that we've all dreamed of meeting.

[hexagram23]

Oh, but I do.



ITT: Items on the AH = Packed WoE.




I have not once discounted you clearing zones or completing weapons, So, I would agree, you are confused.




I had the context right, I even mentioned in my post that 'you were trying to prove a point' to whoever the other guy was. So once again, your confusion might be coming back.




Here's the thing, what you need to realize that just because you did it 5 months ago, 10 months ago, or 10 years ago. Time does not equal knowledge. Maybe then, but now, the information is 2 clicks of a mouse away. And because you were there to go through the trial-and-error phase of strategies for each conflux doesn't make you a god-send. And for the record, if the weapons were shit, people wouldn't do the event. The gear makes (made) the event "popular", not you.

I would also venture to guess that you used some information that was on this very website from people from other servers doing it also! Or perhaps you're the pioneer of FF that we've all dreamed of meeting.

Yes, a constant influx of items means people are constantly doing an event. This is common sense.

If I said I popularized WoE in general you might have a point. I said I popularized it on our server. And I did, along with 3-4 other people. I have zero problems with someone disagreeing with me....but you weren't there 5 months ago, and you aren't there now. So, how can you speak on it? Let's be real here. What is your basis for assuming I didn't popularize it, back when I was among the 3-4 people constantly leading winning runs, 5+ months ago?

The gear? The coins? If that was enough to motivate people the zone wouldn't have been empty for close to 4 months. The sole reason people went after the gear or coins was because of runs led by the names I mentioned, or led by people who were taught by those people.

Do you just feel like arguing for no reason? This is even more mind-blowing considering you have zero knowledge about this stuff first-hand, because you weren't in the zone to know either way. You're just saying "LOL you didn't popularize it! it was the gear!" despite the fact that the only people showing people how to get the gear was US.

Why do you seem so bitter? I don't get your angle here. Someone else said I should lead WoE runs, I said I did 5 months ago, and you spoke up for no apparent reason, on a subject you obviously know nothing about. You don't do WoE, you weren't there then, you aren't there now.

[Dooom]

Jesus Christ, get over yourself. Me and some friends started WoE on Phoenix not long after the event came out, we had some of the first sales of a number of items and helped other groups with strats to clear zones, and ended up making a large WoE-specific LS that was successful until other things got in the way of leaders turning up so the group broke... but we don't go around telling ourselves we made WoE popular on Phoenix. The new trials which made coin weapons good did that. If the rewards are good, people find a way to get them, and it's stupid for a handful of people to say "THIS IS THANKS TO ME!!!" - you just look like someone trying so very hard to suck your own cock.

[Fiarlia]

Why do you seem so bitter? I don't get your angle here. Someone else said I should lead WoE runs, I said I did 5 months ago, and you spoke up for no apparent reason, on a subject you obviously know nothing about. You don't do WoE, you weren't there then, you aren't there now.

Because rather than making the person you were originally talking to sound like a stupid retarded dick you came off like you have some sort of superiority complex. You really sound like the only reason people do WoE on your server is because of you/your group. That's just stupid. You may have been a big help, which I don't think anybody is denying. You may very well have helped other people get the wins and get the gear. If this is true, which I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, then kudos to you. Good job on helping people win. But if the fake Empyrean weapons sucked shit still (like they did 5 months ago) WoE would still be fairly empty, save a few people/groups. The reason it's as busy as it is now is because of the (fake) Empyrean weapons, not you.

You can be more knowledgeable/experienced then a good number of people, but you're acting like you, personally, are the only reason, or at least the biggest reason that people do WoE. Sorry man, but your ego is a bit too inflated there. All you're doing is coming off like some pompous douche.

[hexagram23]

Because rather than making the person you were originally talking to sound like a stupid retarded dick you came off like you have some sort of superiority complex. You really sound like the only reason people do WoE on your server is because of you/your group. That's just stupid. You may have been a big help, which I don't think anybody is denying. You may very well have helped other people get the wins and get the gear. If this is true, which I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, then kudos to you. Good job on helping people win. But if the fake Empyrean weapons sucked shit still (like they did 5 months ago) WoE would still be fairly empty, save a few people/groups. The reason it's as busy as it is now is because of the (fake) Empyrean weapons, not you.

You can be more knowledgeable/experienced then a good number of people, but you're acting like you, personally, are the only reason, or at least the biggest reason that people do WoE. Sorry man, but your ego is a bit too inflated there. All you're doing is coming off like some pompous douche.

I never said I was the only or the biggest reason, I named 2 other LSs that I have no connection to, and 2-3 other specific players that I barely know, who I consider equally important in jump-starting the event on Titan. If anyone doubted that they popularized the event I would argue just as hard on their behalf. And yes, 90% of the traffic in WoE for a 4 month block was from that group of people, or groups that were led/taught my us. FFXIAH can back this up. I don't care if this is "OMG!" impressive, I'm not asking for any response like that. But it is what happened, and I don't like people rewriting history. Especially people with no knowledge of what happened.

I could've been a bit more polite initially but when someone randomly tells you "lol you need to start doing your own runs" when I was doing them 5 months ago....he needs to be corrected. Likewise Devolver talking about WoE, when he is never there, now or 5 months ago, trying to say what I did or didn't do, or saying the zone is empty "90% of the time!" which is basically a pointless lie, and easily dispelled by a simple FFXIAH search....it needs to be corrected.

And I don't have an ego. I'm not asking anybody to give me props for what I did, or suck my cock, because popularizing WoE isn't some amazing feat. If I came across like that, sorry it wasn't my intention. I just don't like it when people talk about things they know nothing about.

[Babu]

Coins for WoE weapons jump-started this event. Regardless of how many clears you had, when they were and how many people you came before... there is really only one reason that people go to WoE and it isn't you. Aside from a few items people might have gone in to get clears for. I think most people's problem with your post is that you kinda came off making it sound like you're trailblazing or something. Anyway, the coins are what popularized WoE and continue to be the reason people enter.

[ronin sparthos]

Can anyone post pics of the giant Yilb + adds? D:

[Devolver]

You don't do WoE, you weren't there then, you aren't there now.

You really do just miss the point of my posts completely. You have this God Complex that obviously other people noticed too. And what do I not know about? How to do WoE? Are you shitting me? Apparently you think it's much harder than what it really is. I've went with plenty of runs because people need another body for coin farming, zone clearing, or what have you. Do I not know about how you are the Czar of WoE? Ushering it in to the uneducated masses of Titan? We all get you were there first, did the first with clears of this flux and that flux. That's all great.

Now if I missed the meaning of you saying 'I don't know what I'm talking about', feel free to let me know. But if you are going to keep dancing around your asshole about what I'm really talking about, then have fun with that.

[Fallyn]

he sounds like some vietnam vet. YOU WEREN'T THERE MAN!

[Massimo]

I joined a JP WoE pickup group like 3 weeks after it was released and got/sold the first of two items on my server. WoE on Quetz now is what it is because of me.

It's like that guy who invented SAM tanking Mictlantecuhtli.

[Francisco]

More tales from people being complete and utter dicks in WoE.

I went into the crab conflux while their was one other monk soloing there. I subbed WHM for Reraise. The first mob dropped a coin of glory, which he lotted and I passed (would have passed regardless since he effectively soloed it). After that crab, nothing came down. I sac pulled the four on the stairs, and he grabbed one off of me. Rinse & repeat a couple of times. The third crab dropped a coin of advancement, which I lotted. The other MNK proceeded to throw a bitch fit, slap me, lot the coin out and refuse to kill any further mobs and call me a leech.

Because he would have handled the situation of fighting four mobs at once solo just fine. Awesome.

[Salmijr]

/blist add name?

[Alkimi]

Some more info on Conlux 7:

Yilbegan-type mob is fairly easy. Won no problem with 9 people, certainly a hell of a lot easier than #6.

Estimate he has around 90k HP.

Will occasionally go into a 'Chainspell-Comet' mode. Comet is weak as hell, did like 200 damage to a SAM with a half decent MDT set. Meteor is also really weak and not worth concerning yourself with.

Uses Dark Star a lot more than normal Yilbegan does.

Tank it on whichever side I guess up to you. We tanked it on the front, Soul Douse takes an eternity to 'charge' and is easily avoided by side-stepping, but Chaos Blast resulted in a few deaths due to the Max HP down thing. I'd say whichever TP moves you find the least annoying, at least with this you don't have the danger of wing > depop that you had with regular yilb.

Best to drag it down from it's pop spot to the previous 'floor', there's a nice ledge where all the mages can stand to stay out of AoE.

I'd say bring 2 White Mages, 1 for each tank, without the brokenness of Abyssea buffs MP might be an issue after a while. We had a WHM with the broken AF3+2 legs so MP wasn't much of a concern but for those without I'd say 2 is essential. DDs can tank this fine, /NIN seems pretty pointless so we had a SAM/WAR doing most of the tanking. He has a PDT and MDT set so didn't take too much damage. 100-30% is easy, takes 10 mins. After 30% he'll be running around all over the place due to all the hate resets. As for other jobs, summoners do fairly nice damage (Doesn't have the ridiculous damage resistance of normal yilbegan). Thunderstorm was doing ~1k.

Unique TP moves:
Chilling Roar - AoE Terror, hate reset (not 100%, but significant). Didnt use this til ~30%. When he uses this it will pop an add. Adds don't melee, move, or cast, but they have a silence/amnesia/poison aura and they have an annoying habit of popping right on top of the mages. Have about 1k HP and are really weak to magic damage (Holy with full Afflatus Solace charge 1-shotted it for 1150 damage).

Abyssic Blast - AoE damage ~2.3k. Again only used below ~30%. Recommeded BRD Scherzo the tanks for last 30% to give them a fighting chance of surviving this. Also bring spare DDs and consider just having 1 tank once under 30%.

Drops:
Conduit Shoes already known about.
Leisure Musk (-3 Enmity Ammo)
Medb's Gauntlets (4 MND 3 MDB gloves)

Final treasure pool seems to always contain 2-3 pouches of coins.

Due to all the curing needed I always placed 2nd or 1st on WHM.

[Alkimi]

Also on unlocking #7:

Although only speculation I'd say that you just need a specific amount of wins in either 4, 5 or 6 to unlock #7. Nobody that I know of did #6 really, it's far too much of a pain in the arse, but our LS have plenty of wins in #4 and #5.