Walk of Echoes

[Nexxus]

Got Red !! trigger on boss crab at flux 1 ! @.@ Sanguine blad trigger it.

[chazzyphizzle]

uh, congrats?

[Mazmaz]

Did a 12 hour all day WoE run today. Were pouches supposed to drop off bosses? Because we didn't see a single one. If they only upped the drop rates on single coins, this update was trash (still 1/30 on glory after spending the last 3 days in WoE). Didn't even get pouches in personal coffers most of the time.

[Langly]

Past couple of days has lead me to believe there haven't been any coin rate changes in WoE. Something's... amiss?

[muhn]

maybe glory isnt common in that conflux maz

[Shenrien]

WoE weakness seems to be... very large, and is triggered from everything not just ws.

[Guitarman]

WoE weakness seems to be... very large, and is triggered from everything not just ws.

this. triggered red on hydra from quad. cont. from our blu.

[Howard Roark]

which woe # are the antlions in that mnk/dnc can solo?

[Cream Soda]

3

[Francisco]

Did some antlions yesterday... still at 7 Advancement, and now I'm up to 18 Decay. Think SE wants me to level SAM or something.

Is there a better conflux for Advancement?

To the person who wanted Glory, I think I saw a few (3-4) drop in a crab run we did, but you'll likely need 3-4 to clear all the lesser crabs.

[Cream Soda]

Advancement sucks everywhere

[Marcicus]

idk, feels like I get advancement/decay over glory which is the one I'm after. ._.

[Erlayn]

I did 3 runs last night. Duo'd antlions for a couple runs and leeched a win on slimes. The 2 Duo runs yielded 1 Glory and 1 Decay. The leech run yielded 1 Ruin Pouch. So honestly I haven't seen the increased drop rate but I am 1/30 on Glory ^^ I think I'm going to have my 50 High Kindred Seals before my Glory for +2.

~Erl

[Shenrien]

anyone thought of bringing TH? lol :s

[Skeelo]

Ive been saying that to my ls, but we usually only go with 4-5 so hard to swing a thf unless its sac bitch. since they are prety much worthless outside of abyssea.

[SteveMc]

Ummm I'm having alittle trouble with conflux 1 soloas MNK90/DNC, I have no idea how to pull it without linking, tips on how to do this on my own?

[Skeelo]

Ummm I'm having alittle trouble with conflux 1 soloas MNK90/DNC, I have no idea how to pull it without linking, tips on how to do this on my own?

There is no good way to solo pull crabs, you may get to pull like 1-3 without getting links then shit usually hits the fan. Best to just do antilions, just kill one, then the link will go to the place of death, pull that one back up the stairs a bit and keep a eye out for another link. If they start coming afte you pull your mob back up stairs a bit and the other one will just go away. WoE pulls take a little practice, but its not bad. Crabs just suck .

[SteveMc]

Yeah I went into Ant with some random DNC, it's pretty easy in here and survived a link of 2 Anthracites so I'm confident in this zone.

[Virg]

Have been doing WoE all day today. #2 for win and #3 NQ farming. Seen 8 Decay, 5 Advancement, 8 or 9 Ruin, 6 Glory and 1 Glory Pouch.
All this with TH4(+ a max of 7 I´ve seen). Setup for #2 win 2x mnk/nin, brd, whm and th4 sac mule. Was piss easy as 85, now shit´s a pushover.

[Francisco]

There is no good way to solo pull crabs, you may get to pull like 1-3 without getting links then shit usually hits the fan. Best to just do antilions, just kill one, then the link will go to the place of death, pull that one back up the stairs a bit and keep a eye out for another link. If they start coming afte you pull your mob back up stairs a bit and the other one will just go away. WoE pulls take a little practice, but its not bad. Crabs just suck .

It all depends on your mood I guess. Antlions are a joke, but you'll want to avoid the white ones if you're solo. They aren't really hard, but if they manage to land Break on you, you'll probably die (it lasted a good 60-90 seconds on me before I died). Sometimes there is a long wait before you can safely pull an antlion without links.

Crabs can screw you over a few ways - but if you're not totally unlucky after the first few mobs, you'll be fine to clear most of the lesser mobs. As MNK/DNC, I can take 2 mobs easily, and up to 3 if I have TP built up beforehand. Four mobs is definitely the breaking point, as recasts and TP limitations can't keep up with so many Water IIIs and Waterga IIs going off at once.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l82x/crabs.jpg

One of the most important things is to use Box Step, and save your finishing moves for Violent Flourish. Water III, Waterga II and Bubble Shower are all easily able to be stunned. Other than that, keep Counterstance up and use Perfect Counter when you can.

Oh, and most importantly, if you fight multiple mobs at once, when one mob dies, move the other one some place else and fight it.

/NIN sucks for WoE solo. The only thing that can kill you as MNK/DNC is Break from Antlions or other people coming in and fucking up and getting you a massive link or boss.

One last thing to add - Antlions seem totally immune to Violent Flourish (probably all stuns, earth based, etc).