Walk of Echoes

[Churchill]

That being the case, though, you're coming full circle back to the problem that killed WoE to begin with: a static group would have always found it much more rewarding to make Empyreans.

Exactly, but if this system is supposed to be much more rewarding than the old then it shouldn't be worse than what someone could have done before in a group or otherwise. Great, teamwork, go in rape whatever's there throw SMN at it whatever. At the end of the day if it's supposed to be something that's easier and more rewarding for less time inputted then it should be exactly that - not something that is going to take more time than building multiple Empyrean Weapons.

The excuse of "more coins are being distributed" just doesn't fly when I'm only looking for one coin. Again, I understand the counterargument to everything I'm saying and I also understand I could do a stage of any empyrean weapon for the time I've already put into this. The system is flawed in general when something was bad but manageable in a group and is now bad for everyone.

[Not Kuno]

Have people been getting the spells at any sort of decent rate? Been doing this a bunch and haven't seen or heard of anyone getting crap. Got a shitload of pouches and die and coins I don't give a shit for, but no new spells.

[Edelweiss]

Not at all. Just some Ruin pouches, sprinkled with shitty Logs/gems, and the occasional Birth/Decay/Advancement. HKCNMs have been fucking terrible for spells too, nothing but largely trash drops.

[Modoru]

No spells here, either. Just a lot of trash so far. Then again, I never get anywhere near first 5 slots.

Also, Mirador Trousers, but can't get them to sell. >:l

[hexagram23]

Those results are not typical and they will regress to the norm before collecting 30 coins. Bank on it.

Uh....what? It's RANDOM. That means no result is typical. People complaining about low drop rates aren't any more/less accurate than people that say they get 30 coins in 3 runs. Random is random.

[Manf]

Have people been getting the spells at any sort of decent rate? Been doing this a bunch and haven't seen or heard of anyone getting crap. Got a shitload of pouches and die and coins I don't give a shit for, but no new spells.

Drop rates are so, so terrible. I hope they address it in a bug fix patch, or the next mini-update or something. I'm not paying 2M for blizzaja.

[Kipling]

Have people been getting the spells at any sort of decent rate? Been doing this a bunch and haven't seen or heard of anyone getting crap. Got a shitload of pouches and die and coins I don't give a shit for, but no new spells.

I've gotten Blizzaja and my friend has gotten comet. Other than that it's usually random trash. I've done it like 6 times or something small. Only other "good" thing I got was Oretania's Cape ("good" because now I don't have to buy one.)

[Byrthnoth]

I've gotten 5 Devious Die and some Silver Mirrors in 10 runs, but nothing else worthwhile. Some coins and shit that I trashed . . .

[Kogenta]

Got lucky the first day with Curaga V and Ice carol 2, my BF got blizzaja. Out of that, just trash and gigantes boots.

[cdgreg]

Are the scrolls conflux # specific? I wouldn't mind going on some runs to hopefully get comet and blizzaja for myself.

[Falaras]

First time I did it I got Holy 2 which sold for 1.5m pretty fast. Didn't even realize I had got something rare until I went to sell it.

[barber2006]

I have to think spell drops from WoE are very rare. We pretty my have 80-170 people doing it at all times on Siren and yet when you look at the number of scrolls that make their way onto the AH it is 1-5 for each. So out of 4000 or so runs a day about 20ish scrolls are making their way onto the AH and this includes scrolls coming from other sources as well. Now surely there are people that just get them and use them, but it sure seems like it is going to be a long time before the market gets saturated.

[barber2006]

I read earlier in the thread someone was complaining about the low drop rate on coins? I've gotten 20ish in 8 runs. And that's not even counting the coins that dropped to other people in my LS....I'd say total out of 8 runs we've seen close to 40 coins. Obviously not all useful to us but that's the nature of the beast.

So yeah, it's random. I've also gotten 3 dice since I last posted.

20 coins in 8 runs. So 4 of each type assuming uniform distribution (which won't be the case but still). So basically you are sitting 4/30. All I'm telling you is that based on the information everyone is giving don't expect to continue getting 3 coins per run. It's NOT going to happen.

[ccf]

20 coins in 8 runs. So 4 of each type assuming uniform distribution (which won't be the case but still). So basically you are sitting 4/30. All I'm telling you is that based on the information everyone is giving don't expect to continue getting 3 coins per run. It's NOT going to happen.

If this was old WoE, 20 coins in 8 runs is almost only possible if you clear zone with a party and no one competing with you.

Anyhow it is easier than ever to get coins now, just spam the whole day, since people are clearing the zones with 36 ppl, yes you do get diluted drops, since now more things can drop, but I think overall your chance of coins has gone up.

As for spells drop rate, I do think they are quite low, yet to get any in 20 runs now, only got dices+ armor.

[cosworthrs]

Any idea what the red staggers are? odd since they do not give a message

[dasva]

If this was old WoE, 20 coins in 8 runs is almost only possible if you clear zone with a party and no one competing with you.

Clearing yes. No competetion not really. Usually a couple of pouches in final chest. I averaged aboue .75-1 pouch per top 5. Even if you only average 3-4 per pouch that's still alot more than 20. Yes I know some will be shit but fuck build multiple WoE weapons. The whole reason I have WoE swd is because I kept randomly getting pouches of the coins for it so before I even started trials for it I had 40something coins for it. And that was just doing the occasional run each week with ls.

[barber2006]

Wow flux 11 is no joke. Skeletons flooding down the stairs 3 at a time everytime we killed one. Took us 25 minutes to get to the stairs and I ninja'd the rest of the way and pulled the boss. Hahava type. Melee hits for 500-1500. At least the yashka TP moves. a 1k nuke didnt bring him down from 98 to 97%. Guys a beast.

yeah, and rashka moves too. And the guy just walks around like a boss kinda like the guy van damme had to fight in kickboxer.

Blizzard seemed to suck and fire/thunder did ok as expected.

Took him from 100 to 60 in about 5 minutes once everyone stopped screwing around with minis and timed out.


Have no idea what everyones gear was like. was just in there on a rdm mule throwing dia 3 on and trying to see how much damage stuff was doing to him.

[ccf]

Clearing yes. No competetion not really. Usually a couple of pouches in final chest. I averaged aboue .75-1 pouch per top 5. Even if you only average 3-4 per pouch that's still alot more than 20. Yes I know some will be shit but fuck build multiple WoE weapons. The whole reason I have WoE swd is because I kept randomly getting pouches of the coins for it so before I even started trials for it I had 40something coins for it. And that was just doing the occasional run each week with ls.

Guess ur luck is a lot better than mine ! I only needed and wanted glory and keep getting outlot or not getting any pouch or wrong pouch in my top 5 chest...I suppose if i wanted say decay I guess I could have been faster in getting my fake emph done.

And for the sake of irony , SE just gave me 2 pouches of glory off 5 runs in new zones ! Guess time to do blade hi fake emph!

[Gokku]

just got comet out of conflux 9 idk if anyone has posted that. * im rich bitch*

[Draylo]

Holy fucking summoners.... this lag is atrocious lol