Walk of Echoes

[Kaisha]

I just realized the junk pool is almost identical to VW's, which means the AH is now flooded with the crap that used to make me 50-150k a VW run. Oh well....


A question though for the zone itself: Is there anything behind the gate that flux 11 is sitting in front? Mainly curious where SE would go about adding more flux in the future if there's even room in the zone left for any more. I know there's that other section of WoE that's currently dedicated for the WoTG BCNM and that's about it.

[Villian]

Turtle also dispel spam too so counting on buffs isn't a good idea either :D. Go smn or bst, litterly finish flux 8 under 20min during JP time with a bunch of smn and a few blm lol.

[Darkmagi]

Yeah if not for dispel spam that turtle flux would be doable without some sort of retarded smn/zombie chaos zerg. Not fun at all lol

[Gwynplaine]

A question though for the zone itself: Is there anything behind the gate that flux 11 is sitting in front? Mainly curious where SE would go about adding more flux in the future if there's even room in the zone left for any more. I know there's that other section of WoE that's currently dedicated for the WoTG BCNM and that's about it.

There's a lot of space and extra platforms in WoE they could do stuff with. It's honestly weird to me they stick these standard fights in such huge pointless arenas. But yeah there's more platform on the opposite side of that wall/door if they're gonna put them over there. The targets for flux 12-15 are already set in the .dat file.

[Modoru]

So, has anything been reported for Flux 11?

Drop-wise, I mean. It got unlocked yesterday in Siren, but I haven't been able to go in.

[NynJa]

JP wiki saying 11 drops:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10819/flume-belt
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10947/saevus-pendant
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11925/alrunas-gloves
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10873/theias-hairpin
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19739/moros-crossbow

posts on ffxiah on those items are 'confirming' it, friend got xbow though, so thats 100% confirm.

[Taint]

Does a "proper job" really counter this?

[10:43:35]The Jebutoise readies Testudo Tremor.
[10:43:41]Nynja takes 3297 points of damage.

[10:44:47 The Jebutoise uses Testudo Tremor.
[10:44:47]Nynja takes 2998 points of damage.

[10:39:52]The Jebutoise readies Testudo Tremor.
[10:39:58]Nynja takes 2805 points of damage.

[10:38:29]The Jebutoise readies Testudo Tremor.
[10:38:35]Nynja takes 2998 points of damage.

I haven't done 11 yet but 8,9,10 are all very doable on my DRK+my WHM to heal. The turtle has 1 shotted me, but its not everytime, the amph can be a pain at times as well. I run with 2k in HP and a solid PDT set+ 3rd eye spam.

People come SMN because they lack gear or support not because its a must. Its like killing Khim with SMNs back in the day, it was safe not ideal.

[dasva]

Unless you are a taru...

[Kaisha]

There's a lot of space and extra platforms in WoE they could do stuff with. It's honestly weird to me they stick these standard fights in such huge pointless arenas. But yeah there's more platform on the opposite side of that wall/door if they're gonna put them over there. The targets for flux 12-15 are already set in the .dat file.

WoE to me has the same problem Einherjar did: re-purposing a massive zone for something else because of time/budget reasons that made the original vision not feasible.

#7 still baffles me with that huge stretch of nothing on the way up. Sure, it makes for easy kiting, but it could have been a crazy gauntlet of boss-like mobs on the way to the main target.

[Gwynplaine]

It's pretty clear at this point their zone construction consists of:
"Were gonna put some big end gamey thing in here. So just make lots of space divided up." Then 3 years later they plop mobs in regardless of area layout.

[NynJa]

WoE to me has the same problem Einherjar did: re-purposing a massive zone for something else because of time/budget reasons that made the original vision not feasible.

#7 still baffles me with that huge stretch of nothing on the way up. Sure, it makes for easy kiting, but it could have been a crazy gauntlet of boss-like mobs on the way to the main target.

I think once you engage that boss, you cant enter...which is probably the reasoning behind it.

OR...at the time since it was cast lots, people wouldnt fight NM on top of conflux basically fucking everyone else over.

[Arthars]

Well for now with all the mass orgy going on and SMN's pet feeding mad tp, its impossible for proper job to survive the TP spam from mobs.

However if your low manning (yea impossible for now but me and my friends pretty much go the other way, eg. the other turtles that others not going for, those mobs and boss are pretty much do-able with 3-4 man.

We had our PLD + NIN + RDM + WHM on the boss turtle from 100% to 60ish% until the others are done with the other side and come with the horde of SMNs and we died before taking down another 10%. stun also work better if you dont have fucking lag -_-;

not saying smn is not good and cause lag etc etc but its do-able with "proper" jobs if you dont have 20 pets on it feeding mad tp

for now.... i gave up and just go with the flow using my gimped 91 smn.........

To Nynja: Your doing well eating those 3k-ish WS. That means u still get 3-4k xp per run with the damage you take!!! so cheer up!!! XD

[Forte]

I really have to wonder how long people will be spamming these. I mean, the first WoE wasn't popular at all. I doubt this will be much different.

[NynJa]

As long as the new scrolls are selling for 1m+, people will do it. As long as people have WoE weapons at +2, people will do them for dice. With everyone getting their own loot instead of worrying about leechers, people are more motivated.

[Shin Volcano]

Well for now with all the mass orgy going on and SMN's pet feeding mad tp, its impossible for proper job to survive the TP spam from mobs.

However if your low manning (yea impossible for now but me and my friends pretty much go the other way, eg. the other turtles that others not going for, those mobs and boss are pretty much do-able with 3-4 man.

We had our PLD + NIN + RDM + WHM on the boss turtle from 100% to 60ish% until the others are done with the other side and come with the horde of SMNs and we died before taking down another 10%. stun also work better if you dont have fucking lag -_-;

not saying smn is not good and cause lag etc etc but its do-able with "proper" jobs if you dont have 20 pets on it feeding mad tp

for now.... i gave up and just go with the flow using my gimped 91 smn.........

To Nynja: Your doing well eating those 3k-ish WS. That means u still get 3-4k xp per run with the damage you take!!! so cheer up!!! XD

I hate to break this to you but what you consider a "proper" job is in fact the tp feeder, the reason being that this game has become one sided after certain updates, example: when abyssea came out, the "proper" jobs were war, blm, blu, brd, nin, mnk now that abyssea is over and with WOE and even some void watch fights pet jobs are preferd because they don't suffer from weakness. it's amazing that the jobs that were shunned and no one liked during abyssea (smn, bst, cor, pup, rng) are now the most popular jobs in WOE.

As a dd, the only thing i see happening is they run in, fight for a few minutes then face the inevitable death that occures and spend the rest of the fight weakned or zombing, which means they are limited on use, even if you brought those "proper jobs" all that does it make the fights take longer with less damage. because you're not going to avoid dying as a dd for the most part.

it is sad that is how this game works but it does. pet jobs don't suffer from weakness, while dd jobs do. and since you cannot hide behide crour buffs anymore big aoes actually hurt. however going slow has one advantage, taking long enough for the day to change to get a new medallion quicker.

[Churchill]

Yeah I heard MNK and NIN feed a lot of TP too. I also heard that BRD sucks for Voidwatch, as does BLM, BLU, and WAR.

Can I get a HELL YEAH for my PET JOB BROS???

[Shin Volcano]

Yeah I heard MNK and NIN feed a lot of TP too. I also heard that BRD sucks for Voidwatch, as does BLM, BLU, and WAR.

Can I get a HELL YEAH for my PET JOB BROS???

BRD is a great ballad whore for SMN i dunno what you're talking about :l

[Churchill]

BRD is a great ballad whore for SMN i dunno what you're talking about :l

I'm probably making fun of your ignorance. Also, you placed BRD in the portion of jobs you considered "only good for Abyssea and held up by Cruor buffs" and not in the portion of elite non-weakness suffering demigods known as SMN.

[Shin Volcano]

I'm probably making fun of your ignorance. Also, you placed BRD in the portion of jobs you considered "only good for Abyssea and held up by Cruor buffs" and not in the portion of elite non-weakness suffering demigods known as SMN.

Ah, so you're making fun of ignorance which was not there, ok since it was to hard to grasp let me try to dumb it down a bit:

Brd was mainly for procs etc, you know, that yellow weakness trigger thing? i didn't imply nor say that it was "only good for abyssea" long story short, i was stating what jobs were popular in abyssea and which are not in voidwatch as of how it currently going. once again, never said these jobs were "useless" i am stating that with the influx of pet jobs, they do majority of the work now where dds just mainly run in, die get up, rinse, repeat most of the time. did that help? i sure hope it did.

Of course you can get any flux done with dd set ups, but it just makes it more difficult, it's just how the bandwagon aspect of this game works.

[Forte]

elite non-weakness suffering demigods known as SMN.

As a SMN who has been a SMN since before CoP... that brings a tear to my eye. SMN being top dog at something is just wonderful.