Walk of Echoes

[Kalasin]

It's funny but I'm watching what I consider to be one of the more garbage shells destroy fluxes 7-9 with no SMN and just melee+mages. Clear times in less than 5m

Less than 5 minutes? That sounds a bit.. unbelievable.

[Shin Volcano]

It's funny but I'm watching what I consider to be one of the more garbage shells destroy fluxes 7-9 with no SMN and just melee+mages. Clear times in less than 5m

Proof? i have a serious hard time beliving anyone can clear flux 9 in less then 5 minutes with only meele, in fact i am almost certain that is not possible unless someone get's a brew off the 1st mob. The boss alone takes more then 5 minutes. 8? there is no way in hell. But yea, pics etc.

[Lyramion]

Yeah, good luck getting the melee to stand together. I've never had Alex or Fantatic's Powder hit more than a few people there, and I always cast them standing on the boss.

Hastega/Healing Wind/Spring Water spam seems to hit quite a few people though.

I dont think powders and mists hit anyone outside of your Party still. My Alex got 15 people in my log on the stairs to #11 boss tho.

[Churchill]

Cleared turtles in 5m, cleared mandies in as much time as it takes to pull them all since they are spaced out, amphiteres I'm not sure of the time on...but the mobs pretty much were insta raped. MNK, WAR, SAM were pretty much destroying everything. They even had a lolmeleeRDM out there.

I also did #7 with NIN gimpRDM SCH and BLM earlier as well as gimpRDM SCH SMN BLM without any real issues

[Deader2818]

Some how... i have a hard time believing you cleared turtles in 5 minutes. Did you just go right to the bosses?

[Shin Volcano]

So they "destroyed" turtles? even tho the 2 boss ones are far apart and can invincible, and have a one shotting aoe move which they spam, and being turtles they have alot of hp and high defense, from the moment you walked into the conflux every thing just dies in seconds, basically you have to understand your "word" is not very convincing. the court would like to see some evidence to support this. I am one who can think anything can be possible, but this one has some questions behide how it's done.

[NynJa]

The only thing I can potentially think of is they skipped all the babies and went right to bosses...but even then 2 minutes per boss turtle + 1 minute running seems very far fetched.

[Kaisha]

On another big note - if every SMN in there would give Alex to all people every 2 runs, melee could have some fun !

Seriously tho, if you are SMN be nice and give the poor ppl without a petjob Alex every 2 hour for boss battles. It´s nice !

I'm actually disappointed in the lack of SMN using Wards. It's like 95% of them do not realize that WoE rips off Campaign's system, meaning avatar buffs are true-AoE.

I got 9k XP one run just spamming Healing Ruby 2 on Carbuncle and nothing else. Always fun seeing 15 people getting hit for 400hp cure in one shot. Alex would be so abusable when coordinated that it wouldn't be funny. Shame revitalizers are rare as fuck as far as temp items go from my experience.

[Lyramion]

Well, many SMNs that join in now are often just AF3+1 - HQ staff - no DarkElemental SMNs. Even tho temp items help a lot, they can´t maintain MP for wards and rage.

[Churchill]

They pulled first set of babies one at a time, as that was happening a PLD grabbed each boss.

The babies were alive long enough for me to target and cast one ThunderIV, the bosses I got a Thunder IV and III off and was waiting for IV timer as it died. I'm not really concerned about whether or not you believe me, but as with anything in this game it can apparently be done faster with DDs, BRDs, and WHMs.

[Deader2818]

I dont think anyone is doubting it can be done, but the time you are saying it can be done in is way overstated.

[Churchill]

There is some doubt being cast, and I admit I did implicate they were all done in 5m which was incorrect, but which I later corrected. Only the turtles were done that quickly. I'm not saying that throwing SAMs WARs etc at these fluxes is the best thing to do because that requires coordination and this was a linkshell doing the event. I am saying that all of the runs for 8-10 were done faster/more efficiently than any of the ones I've been in with 25 Garuda's sitting out. The only time anyone died was due to Fatal Scream and obviously you can't cursna 18 DDs. Most of the other mobs didn't even get a TP move off, when they did we were lucky it was just scream or dream flower. I saw a few harden shells instead of testudo tumor but again, they weren't alive very long.

[Buffy]

I realize the info is new, but can someone provide a screenshot of the pouch drop and the fact that it turns into 12 plates? Trying to do the math on how many voidwatch runs we're going to need over the next couple months.

[Byrthnoth]

I'll do the math for you. Infinity-many. Plates will be 100k or more unless they add another source.

[Forte]

Well, many SMNs that join in now are often just AF3+1 - HQ staff - no DarkElemental SMNs. Even tho temp items help a lot, they can´t maintain MP for wards and rage.

As a HQ SMN the number of horribly gimp SMN depresses me. I mean hell, some of them are wearing int gear. That makes no sense!

[Shin Volcano]

As a HQ SMN the number of horribly gimp SMN depresses me. I mean hell, some of them are wearing int gear. That makes no sense!

This surprises you? i think out of the 50+ smns i seen on a daily baises only 3 knew what they were doing...it's pretty sad when doing conflux 11 all you see is predator claws going off on skeleton mobs. it's a hard job apperently..i don't even bother checking SMNs anymore in fear my head my explode.

They pulled first set of babies one at a time, as that was happening a PLD grabbed each boss.

The babies were alive long enough for me to target and cast one ThunderIV, the bosses I got a Thunder IV and III off and was waiting for IV timer as it died. I'm not really concerned about whether or not you believe me, but as with anything in this game it can apparently be done faster with DDs, BRDs, and WHMs.

I'm still waiting on pics or screenshots or a video, i have no doubt it can be done "quickly" but in under 5 minutes? record a run like that and i would love to see how defense heavy turtles can be slaughtred that fast, let alone the bosses.

I also would like to know why you were casting Thunder on earth based mobs.

[grevenilvec75]

If the DDs had perfect defense it'd probably work, does the dispel move get rid of pd?

EDIT: somebody couldve brewed it also.

[Lyramion]

As for brews. Every 2nd to 3rd #11 seems to get brewed when I am there. Droprate doesn´t seem too bad with a full flux.

[Flic]

I realize the info is new, but can someone provide a screenshot of the pouch drop and the fact that it turns into 12 plates? Trying to do the math on how many voidwatch runs we're going to need over the next couple months.

2 pouches from allainces ive been in so far, both from zilart tier 3s, 11/12. Personally I haven't even got a single yet lol so unless you plan on buying I doubt you will finish.

[Eldelphia]

I'm actually disappointed in the lack of SMN using Wards. It's like 95% of them do not realize that WoE rips off Campaign's system, meaning avatar buffs are true-AoE.

I got 9k XP one run just spamming Healing Ruby 2 on Carbuncle and nothing else. Always fun seeing 15 people getting hit for 400hp cure in one shot. Alex would be so abusable when coordinated that it wouldn't be funny. Shame revitalizers are rare as fuck as far as temp items go from my experience.

Same here. Annoyed the crap out of me when we're killing the skele adds (sometimes people do, sometimes they don't) that other SMN don't think that AoE stoneskin might speed up the process and prevent a ton of HP being drained back... Sure only 2-300 a person but woah people... there are 10-20 of you around the mob...

I used Alexander whenever I get a revit, I save it for something nasty (like Tapana). Otherwise there are so many other ways in which you can support, not just get out Garuda/Shiva and damage. I get tons of xp spamming supportive BPs.