Walk of Echoes

[ccf]

This surprises you? i think out of the 50+ smns i seen on a daily baises only 3 knew what they were doing...it's pretty sad when doing conflux 11 all you see is predator claws going off on skeleton mobs. it's a hard job apperently..i don't even bother checking SMNs anymore in fear my head my explode

This is very much how it works unfortunately, it's all garuda regardless of the mob type be it slimes/hydra/cerb/undead/turtle/wyrms.

Talking about 5 min per flux, I think they are really most prevalent with flux 5/6/7 tbh, the rest I doubt you can do it that fast.

[Byrthnoth]

They need to change the WoE code so that:
1) Avatar BPs hit other Avatars.
2) I get skillups.

[Eldelphia]

They need to change the WoE code so that:
1) Avatar BPs hit other Avatars.
2) I get skillups.

Agreed lol.

[Kensagaku]

I'm thankful I recapped my Summoning Magic skill while doing Voidwatch. I got to go SMN for Celaeno/Hahava, and actually scored pretty well on staggers; had one Celaeno with two BP triggers, and one Hahava with three! No good drops sadly.

But that aside, I agree that it's annoying to see Predator Claws spam. A party member of mine (we grab random seekers, particularly WHMs, in an attempt to coordinate things) was commenting on that, because he was mostly using Wind Blade (5/5) for damage and far outdamaging the others. It was sort of sad.

Speaking of sad... the random drop pools make me sadface hard. First run at 11, I got 13k EXP on BLU (Was stunning everything and nailed Tapana a few times with some hard Heavy Strikes) and literally got only synth mats. Second run, 5.5k from a poor run and I got two coins. Wtf SE...

[Taint]

They need to change the WoE code so that:
1) Avatar BPs hit other Avatars.
2) I get skillups.

^ This

If I'm going to be forced to be SMN then atleast let me get some skill ups!

[Forte]

I... think I got skillups. Was I hallucinating?

[Taint]

I... think I got skillups. Was I hallucinating?

Yes or you were waiting for the flux to open.

[Arthars]

not only smns....many people changed to blms as well to do WoE cos they dont have summoner.

Some are still using Aero V on amps (yea and some smn still using wind blade lol) and MANY using blizzard on bones.......

idk if #11's bones work like normal bones, but my first reaction ws "WTF blizzard?"

and also some hero BLM got a brew, and instead of using rock crusher, he was doing blizzaja and blizzaga in conflux #11

[Kensagaku]

Welcome to Abyssea-burned BLMs, where Blizzard is the spell of the day due to Ultimate/Beyond/MM combos.

People have been getting a brain on Valefor, thank god. I'm seeing Ifrits and Titans on #11, BLMs nuking fire, and the occasional Leviathan SMN spamming Spring Water while in skeleton melee range, keeping me up a bit easier. It's fairly easy to get 10-13k EXP on my BLU between 900 damage Heavy Strikes (700 on Tapana, assuming it lands... he hates when I do that and retaliates painfully) and Sudden Lunge spams, using Regurgitation/Blazing Bound/Cannonball while weak and then getting back in the front lines ASAP. It's quite fun, actually.

[Lyramion]

JESUS what rubs me wrong the most in WoE now are people that just hop into any flux whenever it´s up, then cockblock it from being cleared for a day. "Oh there are 70 ppl in area and half of them jut finished a flux and went out to wait for new medal... lets just enter #11 with a max of 10 ppl at 12.00 so we can fail horribly!"

[Khiinroye]

Blizzard actually does normal damage against the skeletons in 11.

[Shin Volcano]

not only smns....many people changed to blms as well to do WoE cos they dont have summoner.

Some are still using Aero V on amps (yea and some smn still using wind blade lol) and MANY using blizzard on bones.......

idk if #11's bones work like normal bones, but my first reaction ws "WTF blizzard?"

and also some hero BLM got a brew, and instead of using rock crusher, he was doing blizzaja and blizzaga in conflux #11

Yes, you do realize blizzard works fine on bones, right? unless my 1.5.1.8 k blizzard spells on them is an illusion? also, if you brew on blm, you WANT to do spells, earth crusher is actually the worst thing you can do. wtf?

Tapana is the only exception since he resists pretty much every element but fire.

[Necronus]

JESUS what rubs me wrong the most in WoE now are people that just hop into any flux whenever it´s up, then cockblock it from being cleared for a day. "Oh there are 70 ppl in area and half of them jut finished a flux and went out to wait for new medal... lets just enter #11 with a max of 10 ppl at 12.00 so we can fail horribly!"

The exact opposite of Quetz!

Well I haven't done it in about 2 days now so who knows now, but a few days back it got to the point where there were 120 people in Walk of Echoes (inside, I didn't tally Xarc), yet people would only rush into 9 and 11 the second they opened, filling them to cap. The other 50 or so people would then stand there for an entire game day while I tried to get them to enter 8 or 10. Occasionally you'd get a 10 run going but people simply refused to enter 8. Its sad but flux 8 remained open for 5 of the 6 game days and 10 was open thorughout about 4 of the 6 gamedays that night.

One time me and about 10 others did enter 8 while announcing it to the crowd, in an attempt to make that fabled first step people fear making on an empty flux. We stood around for 5 mins, no one else entered, and we struggled like hell for the next 10 minutes making slow progress... finally people started trickling in as their personal threshold for entering a flux was met until finally we did have 36 people in, but it was too late and we timed out at 75% hp remaining on the last Lacovie model.


Oh and in case you're wondering why the 50 odd people would stand there, its because they'd often get in as soon as it opened which was usually JUST before the next game day rolled over. Hence it was often alternating piles of people waiting outside the fluxes.

[Arthars]

Yes, you do realize blizzard works fine on bones, right? unless my 1.5.1.8 k blizzard spells on them is an illusion? also, if you brew on blm, you WANT to do spells, earth crusher is actually the worst thing you can do. wtf?

Tapana is the only exception since he resists pretty much every element but fire.

blizzard doesnt work that well on NQ bones i thought? well for #11 maybe it still do good. but yea, many people still blizzard that hahava in #11 -_-

and for brewing, spells are not the best. Yes a Ja can get you 15k damage, but doing 3 WS in that period + skillchain gets more damage earth crusher was doing 4-5k per when i brew.........and speaking of brew, some people dont use ele WS or spells, they used retribution for 2-3k damage, thats fail too

remember to pop a poison potion if ur soloing and got a brew.....sleepga II can still land on brew -_-

[ccf]

and for brewing, spells are not the best. Yes a Ja can get you 15k damage, but doing 3 WS in that period + skillchain gets more damage earth crusher was doing 4-5k per when i brew.........and speaking of brew, some people dont use ele WS or spells, they used retribution for 2-3k damage, thats fail too

remember to pop a poison potion if ur soloing and got a brew.....sleepga II can still land on brew -_-

Spells for blm on brew is definitely quite silly. Eles WS are the way to go BUT if you're weakened x2 and above, retribution brew is pretty acceptable, it's how I killed the mandy boss while weak x2.

[Churchill]

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but you can still get two pouches per run. Just got my 3rd ruin pouch (-_-) today and a birth pouch from the same chest

[Arthars]

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but you can still get two pouches per run. Just got my 3rd ruin pouch (-_-) today and a birth pouch from the same chest

didnt do anything below #8....but i have got 3 coins in conflux 8 and above a few times.....and previously, it is possible to get 3 pouches, so im guessing you can and should be able to get 3 pouches too from lower flux

[Shin Volcano]

blizzard doesnt work that well on NQ bones i thought? well for #11 maybe it still do good. but yea, many people still blizzard that hahava in #11 -_-

and for brewing, spells are not the best. Yes a Ja can get you 15k damage, but doing 3 WS in that period + skillchain gets more damage earth crusher was doing 4-5k per when i brew.........and speaking of brew, some people dont use ele WS or spells, they used retribution for 2-3k damage, thats fail too

remember to pop a poison potion if ur soloing and got a brew.....sleepga II can still land on brew -_-

The issue is you mentioned earth crusher which IMO has by far been the worst WS to brew as i have seen nothing but shitty numbers from it, cataclysm seems to be the best brew WS if the mob dosnt resist darkness, but you can only get that for blm if you sub whm. nor am i seeing what the problem with spells are, if i am brewing on blm mobs are usually dead much quicker with spells doing 10-15k (rough estimate) with elemental celerity and /rdm spells tend to go off very quickly, then with ws that blm is very limited in. Maybe Vidohunir? i have actually never tried that WS under a Brew. but i rarely brew on blm anyway.

[Churchill]

didnt do anything below #8....but i have got 3 coins in conflux 8 and above a few times.....and previously, it is possible to get 3 pouches, so im guessing you can and should be able to get 3 pouches too from lower flux

Yeah I've pretty much only been doing #7 for coins. I've got 6 ruin pouches today lol, and need 2 glory coins...but besides the point. Was just shocked with how shitty it is that you can still load two pouches in your chest.

For the sake of putting it out there, I've more than likely been scoring "top 5" type scores with the people I'm in the run with and I've got 11 pouches today. It's prolly nothing but meh.

[Deader2818]

So, if you want coins, do old fluxes, if you want spells and items, do new ones?

I know my first run after update was flux 2 and I got a coin and a glory pouch.