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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    That Brew is best used on a MNK or RDM tbh.
    If only there wasnt a cap on fStr and Pdif........

    Will be funny when a Mnk uses this brew and finds out his damage didnt go up at all due to already capping acc/att/fStr.

    GOGO 2mil cruor regen drink.

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    Should at least give you retarded Chi Blasts

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    Mnk/drk hundred fist + souleater on this drink would be a sight to behold fo sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Mnk/drk hundred fist + souleater on this drink would be a sight to behold fo sure.
    Out of curiosity, do you realize hundred fists swings slower than a zerging 2hander with a dancer? (though mnk HP is nice obviously).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Mnk/drk hundred fist + souleater on this drink would be a sight to behold fo sure.
    That is until SE patches all the NMs so they reisist Souleater after the first 10 hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Out of curiosity, do you realize hundred fists swings slower than a zerging 2hander with a dancer? (though mnk HP is nice obviously).
    Not to mention a zerging monk with a dancer, lol

    And the person who said RDM was spot on. +999 INT would cap Macc against anything, there's no way Manafont would compete with Chainspell under those circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Mnk/drk hundred fist + souleater on this drink would be a sight to behold fo sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard
    Out of curiosity, do you realize hundred fists swings slower than a zerging 2hander with a dancer? (though mnk HP is nice obviously).
    Full HP gear + HF + Occ Att 1-3time Weapon or faith bags + Souleater + Chakra if ur lossing more hp than ur gaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoD View Post
    Full HP gear + HF + Occ Att 1-3time Weapon or faith bags + Souleater + Chakra if ur lossing more hp than ur gaining
    I thought additional effects from weapons don't work on hundred fists (I could be wrong though, wiki doesn't mention this). I know sambas drain for nothing with hundred fists, and haste gear/spells doesn't work (wiki does mention this). Chakra will reduce the damage you're doing by adding a delay between your attacks, and souleater is gimped on a sub. You'd be a massive MP drain for the mages, and a zerging DRK with capped haste would still do more damage than you because hundred fists reduces delay by 74%, and DRK with capped haste would be attacking more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    If only there wasnt a cap on fStr and Pdif........

    Will be funny when a Mnk uses this brew and finds out his damage didnt go up at all due to already capping acc/att/fStr.

    GOGO 2mil cruor regen drink.

    Bah fuck, figured that with all that uber STR naturally the enhanced speed would be the most broken, at least compared to other DD 2hours...

    And I stand by RDM. BLM may have higher tier nukes, but I daresay a RDM with this bad boy and Thunder IV could abuse chainspell pretty hardcore.

    That's a lot of T4 going off vs a couple of free, massive Nukes.

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    I thought it was common Knowledge that MNK/DRK is notably inferior to DRK for Souleater.

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    curious with this discussion- do enspells stack with HF? not that its a huge amount of damage against anything worthwhile, but curious nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I thought it was common Knowledge that MNK/DRK is notably inferior to DRK for Souleater.

    It is. 5% HP conversion (but it still drains 10) vs 12% and no Bloodweapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabishii View Post
    I thought additional effects from weapons don't work on hundred fists (I could be wrong though, wiki doesn't mention this).
    Who gave you that impression? The only thing that doesn't work with Hundred Fists is Footwork. After that, swing a club, swing a staff, punch with Faiths, they're all going to do their thing as normal. The only caveat is that Sambas are notably reduced because Hundred Fists for some reason is treated as a delay reduction for calculating Samba regen, even though TP gain is completely unaffected.

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    Gekko will do around 5500(7500da)
    Dancing Edge 11-15k(depends on da or ta)
    SATA dancingedge with assasin charge 21-23k
    SATA mandau with triple proc 20k
    300TP Steel cyclone warrior charge mighty strikes 12-13k

    If anyone thinks that mnk with 2-3 or faith with hundred fists and souleater
    will lose low enough hp to 300hp regen keep him on 100% hp clearly havent ever tried it. 440*0.36=158 daley (2,6sec) with 3,4attacks per round with ursine. MNK with 3000hp after about 12sec would sit on 1k dmg slowly going down and souleater will give him whole 50dmg to every hit!

    There real winner here is melee that can WS very fast cuz normal hits wont be superior but WS will, what come in mind are:
    Apoc DRK spamming Catas for 6-8k dmg (also probably impossible to kill cuz of few k drain every few sec)
    SAM with soboro spamming gekkos or Rana
    DNC spamming DE for 13k(saber dance)
    WAR 2-3hit gaxe spamming king justice
    DRG 2-3 polearm spamming drakes
    MNK 2-3 footwork spamming Tornados
    PUP 2-3 spamming SP

    Even if mob would be physical resistance few melee could spam magic WS lol

    For a moment I tho melee would overall win with RDM if fight will took 3 min but I realized RDM can still use oat+2-3 swords and cuz of haste that can equip (24% i belive) could still probably keep up or beats few melees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Gekko will do around 5500(7500da)
    Dancing Edge 11-15k(depends on da or ta)
    SATA dancingedge with assasin charge 21-23k
    SATA mandau with triple proc 20k
    300TP Steel cyclone warrior charge mighty strikes 12-13k

    If anyone thinks that mnk with 2-3 or faith with hundred fists and souleater
    will lose low enough hp to 300hp regen keep him on 100% hp clearly havent ever tried it. 440*0.36=158 daley (2,6sec) with 3,4attacks per round with ursine. MNK with 3000hp after about 12sec would sit on 1k dmg slowly going down and souleater will give him whole 50dmg to every hit!

    There real winner here is melee that can WS very fast cuz normal hits wont be superior but WS will, what come in mind are:
    Apoc DRK spamming Catas for 6-8k dmg (also probably impossible to kill cuz of few k drain every few sec)
    SAM with soboro spamming Namas Arrow
    DNC spamming DE for 13k(saber dance)
    WAR 2-3hit gaxe spamming king justice
    DRG 2-3 polearm spamming drakes
    MNK 2-3 footwork spamming Tornados
    PUP 2-3 spamming SP

    Even if mob would be physical resistance few melee could spam magic WS lol

    For a moment I tho melee would overall win with RDM if fight will took 3 min but I realized RDM can still use oat+2-3 swords and cuz of haste that can equip (24% i belive) could still probably keep up or beats few melees.
    Ftfy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onorgul View Post
    The only caveat is that Sambas are notably reduced because Hundred Fists for some reason is treated as a delay reduction for calculating Samba regen, even though TP gain is completely unaffected.
    Sambas would be pretty rockin' if they gave full returns despite punching at 74% haste. SE probably decided it'd be too good.

    That said, I'd much rather use this drink on my BLM than my MNK.

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    Sambas work just fine if you're at capped Haste from outside buffs, though (Haste Samba excluded for logical reasons). It seems a little silly that I couldn't use Drain Samba II and Hundred Fists to recover my full HP bar, but so be it.

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    I hope SE remembered to give the boost to avatars too. Would be nice considering no known cap for fSTR on avatars >.> If I'm not mistaken garuda could do between 44-61k per BP with +999 STR depending on crit/ACC.

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    kraken rng, hi?

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