Abyssea Discussion

[tenkiki]

hmm.. I thought that was the case.. since i recently did a full time out..

but at the same time, temp items i get from Guerdon don't carry over as well... or maybe its intentional >_>?

English lesson:

up to = at most = less than or equal to
upwards of = more than

edit: elaboration of up to.
only time 'up to' used together doesn't imply a limiter is when the up is used to describe something that happens (the verb before).
eg. The cost came up to $10
The lift went up to the 10th floor.

This is why I hate the english language. But on the subject of items, are you going to different abyssea zones? I think the items are stored by each zone (go go triple primeval brew?). I remember stockpiling items in Kona, then it "disappeared" when I went to Canyon. I haven't been back to Kona, but the items should still be there. Also, when I went back in to the canyon, I still had temp items from my exp run...

[chazzyphizzle]

No, I've been to all zones multiple times, and chest items didn't stay when I returned to the original zone; the items dropped from NMs though *did* transfer zones.

[Plow]

As of yesterday I still had my items carry over. The only time i've lost them is if i time out or drop under 5 minutes left on visitant. I can check again shortly, since i didnt enter today.

seconded, seem to stay as long as you keep time on the clock, and not be zone dependant

[chazzyphizzle]

Oh, that might be it then. Pretty sure I timed out of the runs the items didn't carry over from. Neat.

[Fumiku]

Any given thoughts to the mobs being at a lower level when you first get there, is why they dont give lights? Also Be sure to look before the line which shows the exp. My log will sometimes show that first then the exp. Just some thoughts.

[Colenzo]

So like, if I make an alliance to do abyssea EXP, I need to chain up pearlescent glow first or what? Or does farming up azure work?

[Thorny]

So like, if I make an alliance to do abyssea EXP, I need to chain up pearlescent glow first or what? Or does farming up azure work?

Order doesn't hugely matter, though doing pearlescent first will get you more minor exp/cruor chests on the way up. Aim for 30 pearlescent lights, then get 30 azure and you should be fine. Keep in mind any lights only effect people in party when they were obtained, ie:

Kill for an hour, doing proper lights, doesn't matter who killshots, boxes will drop like candy.

30 min later, a couple people warp to spend merits, one guy leaves, you get a replacement and the people who spent merits come back. If the people who come back or the replacement killshot a mob, it won't give shit. Whoever killshots's lights are applied to droprate. The best solution to this is to have enough people that you keep one BLM, SCH, or RDM with capped azure at all times to whore killshots and rebuild it for people just joining. Pearlescent will recap on it's own after you do azure, as most of your killshots should be melee. If you're short on time, ask new people to avoid killshotting to get more boxes.

[Auburn]

seconded, seem to stay as long as you keep time on the clock, and not be zone dependant

That's good to know. I'd hate to lose all of the items I have saved up. <.<; Gogo 50/50!

[Anomander]

Order doesn't hugely matter, though doing pearlescent first will get you more minor exp/cruor chests on the way up. Aim for 30 pearlescent lights, then get 30 azure and you should be fine. Keep in mind any lights only effect people in party when they were obtained, ie:

Interesting, I thought the generally accepted number was 15?

Apologies if I missed something new.

[krizz]

I zoned with 3 minutes on the clock last time and still retained all my temp items from NMs and chests.

Just adding to what has been said.

Also, posted over in the La Theine section about Blizzard III triggering yellow !!s on Piasa.

[Thorny]

Interesting, I thought the generally accepted number was 15?

Apologies if I missed something new.

Counted 15 azure's out and was still getting 600/chest from the cruor ones, top level of chests is 1000. Unless I'm retarded or something, it's higher.

[Byrthnoth]

30 seems right from my experience. I think I've gotten capped chest xp/cruor by 25, but I don't think I've seen a time extension before 30.

[Asmoranomar]

30 seems right from my experience. I think I've gotten capped chest xp/cruor by 25, but I don't think I've seen a time extension before 30.

This was the objective of my "YOU ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS" post that got quickly overlooked a few pages back.

The only answer I was given was that it takes 15 chests to cap light.

However, chests give faint light, where as kills seem to give feeble light.

So for another question:

Does this mean faint = 2x feeble?

[Arkanna]

Just to recap on lights: I'm trying to plan some Abyssea NM action for my linkshell. Amber light can only be gotten via magical WS killshots, and from red boxes, correct? Or did I miss something in there..

Next, since our main intent would be to farm key item poppers for the higher-tier pop NM's, it'd be best to first build up our pearl light for higher chest count, then azure light for TE's, then strong amber light for better gold boxes, and then just kill NM's right? Or can normal mobs also drop big gold boxes with key item poppers in them?

Thanks in advance.

[Khajit]

When kicked out the temp items go away. When i dont get kicked they stay. That's what i have been observing.

[Khory]

Stones regenerate every 20 hours. You can hold up to 3 at a time. Get 3 > Wait 20 hours > Get 3 more > Rinse and repeat

At least that's how I understand it.

I believe you are wrong.

You get 1 stone each 20 hours. Not 3/20 hrs.

What happen though is that joachim holds MORE than 3 stones at himself. How many? No idea yet.

But for people who have already exausthed all their stones, you can get a new one every 20 hours.

[krizz]

Just to recap on lights: I'm trying to plan some Abyssea NM action for my linkshell. Amber light can only be gotten via magical WS killshots, and from red boxes, correct? Or did I miss something in there..

Next, since our main intent would be to farm key item poppers for the higher-tier pop NM's, it'd be best to first build up our pearl light for higher chest count, then azure light for TE's, then strong amber light for better gold boxes, and then just kill NM's right? Or can normal mobs also drop big gold boxes with key item poppers in them?

Thanks in advance.

Normal mobs.

[Anomander]

Counted 15 azure's out and was still getting 600/chest from the cruor ones, top level of chests is 1000. Unless I'm retarded or something, it's higher.

Hmm. I believe my group last night shot for 15 of each, and it went well, however I was not the counter. I could be wrong.

After about 15 amber lights, the hugeliekxbox gold chests started showing up. However, I have no idea if you have to be capped, and by that point tons of red chests had popped (so multiple ebons/ambers may have come into play). When the person who was trying to keep track gets up, I'll ask him.

[Nermie]

Something odd happened yesterday when i lost my connection while choosing the number of stones to add to my old visitant time ...

1) Have 3 stones saved on me that I purchased about 20 hours prior
2) I enter Konschtat and "store" those stones by choosing 90mins
3) Warp back to Jeuno and get 3 more stones
4) Enter Konschtat and choose add 30 mins for a total of 120mins
*** I got disconnected as I was confirming this dialog.
5) Logged back in and my status was completely erased - I had no minutes stored and could only use my 3 stones to gain 90 minutes.

After our run I went to back to Jeuno and was immediately able to pick up 3 more stones even though I had picked up 12 stones in the prior 48 hours.
1) Friday 4am EST picked up 3 stones
2) Sunday 4pm EST picked up 3 stones
3) Monday 3am EST picked up 3 stones
4) Monday 11pm EST picked up 3 stones
5) Tuesday 1am EST picked up 3 stones

It's possible that those 90minutes I lost were transferred back to Joachim as stones but I have no idea.

/confused

[Myrrh_Quetz]

You're lucky, Nermie. I'm lucky if I get a new stone after 30 hours.