Abyssea Discussion

[Sumiko]

has this happened to anyone else?

We built up lights to 30(azure)/30(pearl), everyone's been in the zone, in range, participating since the start, we're getting top tier xp chests...

But then one of them loads as a 500 xp chest... -_- It only happened once but it confused the heck out of us.

[urat]

Yeah you'll get random fail chests, it just happens. My group was getting top tier chests last night for several hours and totally out of the blue we got a random 500, then it was back to top tiers.

They're rare but it happens, actually are you 100% for sure that it was dropped from your mobs? I know at the mandy camp there's 2-3 field chests that pop right near camps. We ended up getting a handful of them throughout the night spawning right beside our killing, free exp ftw!

[Zadimortis]

Couple of questions for you folks.

- On my server (Titan), Pachypodiums are always massively overcamped. Always 80-120 people in Tahrongi, 0-20 in the other zones. Why is that? I thought people realized they weren't as good because they didn't give ruby auras, so you couldn't cap exp past 360? And that being said, is there one camp that is generally agreed to be the "best" exp camp?

- Has anyone figured out any tricks for red chests yet? I'm convinced now that the message about pressure the chest gives doesn't have any correlation with how much the pressure will change; it has to mean something else. Only thing for sure I've found is that the the 1/2/3 notch levers will never change the pressure less than 10/20/30 points, respectively.

- Which is better for getting as many Time Extension chests as quickly as possible? Pearlescent > Azure or Azure > Pearlescent? And about how many of each? The only times I've had successful (or quasi-successful runs) is when we start with about 30 Azure auras, then switch to Pearlescent until we're afloat, and even when that happens we don't see time extension chests until we have about 10-15 minutes left for the people who entered with 90 minutes. And I ALWAYS time out. Even if the run lasts multiple hours. Our run last night lasted six hours, got BLU from 68 to 73 via chest leeching, and we all timed out eventually. Even with nothing but magic kills from the BLMs that weren't replaced, we just didn't get time extensions.

- Has anyone actually figured out where the Azure Abyssite of Celerity comes from? Some say that it drops from Bakka, but I've seen no proof of this.

Thanks in advance :3

[Onorgul]

You can get past the soft cap on Pachypodia (and Blood Bats) even without Ruby Light from kills. It takes longer because you have to build it up via the rare red chests you get, but it can be done. As for why your server seems to only want to do Tahrongi, call it sloth. Alexander generally has at least one XP alliance in every zone from what I've observed.

[dem0nfr0g]

we've dropped down a tier in chests once with a static group of 18, like.. 750exp->500exp->750exp, perhaps its more that kills give you a much higher likely hood of a certain level of chests.

I have noticed this too, and I think I know what it was. When we would get lower tier chests out of nowhere, it was always when someone that went and cashed in merits that got the killshot. Their chain was reset, so the chest that popped didn't pop as high as though someone that was there the whole time got the killshot.

[miokomioko]

Yeah you'll get random fail chests, it just happens. My group was getting top tier chests last night for several hours and totally out of the blue we got a random 500, then it was back to top tiers.

They're rare but it happens, actually are you 100% for sure that it was dropped from your mobs? I know at the mandy camp there's 2-3 field chests that pop right near camps. We ended up getting a handful of them throughout the night spawning right beside our killing, free exp ftw!

It's not just random poop chests. The tier of the chest depends on who killed the mob.

If you have a new member or someone who left to dump merits and returned, their kills would reflect the low tier of Azure light they have. It's lame, but you gotta' try and discourage these people to get killshots for a while so their light can build back up.

I had come in late to my ally once, the only one who did so. The ally was getting top-tier blue chests and was focusing on Pearlescent accordingly. Randomly, I happened to have got the melee-punch killshot and the chest was 3-guess with 100 EXP. Only my killshot chests were shitty tier.

[nyaraa]

Couple of questions for you folks.

- On my server (Titan), Pachypodiums are always massively overcamped. Always 80-120 people in Tahrongi, 0-20 in the other zones. Why is that? I thought people realized they weren't as good because they didn't give ruby auras, so you couldn't cap exp past 360? And that being said, is there one camp that is generally agreed to be the "best" exp camp?
Thanks in advance :3

Mandy's are very noob friendly. They don't agro or link, nor have bad or frustrating tp moves, and you don't need a huge amount of healing either.

[Sumiko]

It's not just random poop chests. The tier of the chest depends on who killed the mob.

If you have a new member or someone who left to dump merits and returned, their kills would reflect the low tier of Azure light they have. It's lame, but you gotta' try and discourage these people to get killshots for a while so their light can build back up.

I had come in late to my ally once, the only one who did so. The ally was getting top-tier blue chests and was focusing on Pearlescent accordingly. Randomly, I happened to have got the melee-punch killshot and the chest was 3-guess with 100 EXP. Only my killshot chests were shitty tier.

Yes we know ^^ We're talking about everyone actually being around, no one swapping out, everyone there from start to end, and then some how, bam! One random weak chest.

@urat: Mm.. I'm 100% sure it as from our mobs, we were at bats, and after like 10 xp sessions there I don't think there's ever been a chest spawn that wasn't from our drops.

[miokomioko]

If honestly no one was new, and no one happened to leave the zone whatsoever, I would have to assume it might be related to a player (who got the killshot) using a Martello, teleporting around via conflux, or otherwise doing something that just might possibly reduce one's light potency. I have yet to ever see a shit chest appear outside of it being obvious that the person who got the killshot was new or had left/re-entered in some manner.

For now, being these the only reports I've seen, I'd have to chalk it up to "eyeballing."

[Lyramion]

Im taking it a little different - I think the mob you kill might have something to do with it. Like when another ally recently exped on it the mob might still be "charged" or "trash".

We were doing only NMs in Tharongi and had like 4-5 lights. We killed one Mandy because someone got a merit out of it. It dropped a 600 EXP chest to our feet.

[Kukuk]

Got 2 Blue !!s the other night off 2 consecutive nms using the same WS,Heavy shot.
Khalamari was first and i ended up doing it 3-4 times, and he dropped the Dnc Neck piece.
Fought Bakka 5mins later and got Blue !! again with Heavy shot. Only did the ws 1 time this time and received full drops from him. No Atma or Key items of any sort from either. So i am thinking Blue !!s deal with drops from the nm, also thinking if you get a Blue !! to not cast or do that JA again as it lowers its potency? Any thoughts or ideas on this or other !!s?

[urat]

Got 2 Blue !!s the other night off 2 consecutive nms using the same WS,Heavy shot.
Khalamari was first and i ended up doing it 3-4 times, and he dropped the Dnc Neck piece.
Fought Bakka 5mins later and got Blue !! again with Heavy shot. Only did the ws 1 time this time and received full drops from him. No Atma or Key items of any sort from either. So i am thinking Blue !!s deal with drops from the nm, also thinking if you get a Blue !! to not cast or do that JA again as it lowers its potency? Any thoughts or ideas on this or other !!s?

Actually it seems the treasure hunter !!!, if thats what it is, doesn't actually effect the fight at all, you just need to do it repeatedly to get full effect of TH. At least I'm guessing that.

The ability lock and terror/rage !!!s seem to weaken with each use as the mob builds a resist to it, then once fully resisted it swaps to a new weakness.

I'm not sure if doing multiple TH shots is a good or bad thing >.<

[NynJa]

sumi I'm pretty sure such a weak chest was from someone who changed job and you didnt notice or smoething...or it was me showing up late :D lol

Though I want to try that Zanketsuzen thing, and constantly replenish 2hr with soothing light, though I need to get zank for vermy (or whatever the target smn is gonna be).

[Plow]

Im taking it a little different - I think the mob you kill might have something to do with it. Like when another ally recently exped on it the mob might still be "charged" or "trash".

We were doing only NMs in Tharongi and had like 4-5 lights. We killed one Mandy because someone got a merit out of it. It dropped a 600 EXP chest to our feet.

This seems somewhat plausible, as I've been in an alliance where we literally zoned in, ran to camp, and got a 1000 cruor chest off our 2nd mob.

[Sumiko]

Im taking it a little different - I think the mob you kill might have something to do with it. Like when another ally recently exped on it the mob might still be "charged" or "trash".

We were doing only NMs in Tharongi and had like 4-5 lights. We killed one Mandy because someone got a merit out of it. It dropped a 600 EXP chest to our feet.

Oh.. that could explain it then, thank you! It could've been a long pull into the other camp that just left, that makes the most sense. Just making sure there's not some weird secret thing we accidentally did that made us lose lights for a second, if that's even possible.

sumi I'm pretty sure such a weak chest was from someone who changed job and you didnt notice or smoething...or it was me showing up late :D lol

Though I want to try that Zanketsuzen thing, and constantly replenish 2hr with soothing light, though I need to get zank for vermy (or whatever the target smn is gonna be).

Nah you weren't there yet XD Yay Odin burn!

[zzapp]

I'm sure this is answered somewhere in this thread so please forgive me for any redundancies..

The various ancient abyssites that drop from NM's - is it totally random who in the party/alliance might obtain. I thought I read somewhere that, at least for some, it was the one in party that established initial hate.

Can more than one in the party get the abyssite?

The 3 color !! - have we figured out exactly how those affect drops? I saw in a previous post that someone was suggesting blue = full drops?

Do the !! affect ancient abyssite or atma key item drops?

[kittycatrag]

Consecutive lights seem to be earned feint -> feeble. i.e. azure pearle pearle azure azure would be feint feint feeble feint feeble.

After getting the scarlet abyssite of kismet, my azure messages are always feeble and never feint, whether it's the first light I earn or the first azure of a chain-breaker. I haven't gotten the fabled 1250 curor boxes to drop on my non-azure kills.

[miokomioko]

Do you mean the fabled 1500 EXP boxes? I haven't seen those since my 1st or 2nd EXP group.

[Kegsay]

Reports in the Abyssea-Konschtat thread suggest Tonberry Bedevilers (which are now up on some servers) are dropping Azure Abyssite of Celerity; confirmation by the masses needed.

[Chen]

just to correct someone who said something about the abyssite on the last page, the mp enhancement goes 10%->15%, not 20->30%