Abyssea Discussion

[CaitsithCrumb]

!!'s will appear floating over the monster for about a second.

I must be doing something wrong - people are talking about getting 200+ minutes in a zone like it's nothing. Even with a good killspeed (~20-30 seconds per mob) and maxed Azure and Pearlescent aura, Time Extension chests are incredibly rare for any group I'm in. I've been in groups for 6+ hours, but even in those, we just BARELY stay afloat with time chests, generally hovering around the 10-30 minute range the entire run, and we generally have a steady drain of people who get kicked as a result. And I swear to God we get more time extension chests when we have 8-10 people versus an alliance of 18. But beside the point; people are talking about having 200+ minutes as a result, and there was a screenshot up above of a Pachypodium party with 366 minutes remaining. I've never gone above the time I entered with in any Abyssea group I've been in.

In short, what am I doing wrong? <.<

I've had 2-3 parties where i've turned 30 starting mins into 120+ exiting mins, but lately i've been getting parties that get rare time chests too.

I don't know if 18/18 alliance effects HQ chest drops, but after a 6 hr party i was getting sleepy so i got a rep, dropped party with capped azure/perle/gold lights, soloed 6 mandies. In those 6 i got 6 blue chests, 4 times, 2 xp.

[Zadimortis]

Capped gold aura on Pachypodiums? O.o

Also, now that I have 10 posts, I can post this little beauty I got:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...719_174015.png
Damn shame Thief can't equip that. If it could.... Thief would be 80 in a heartbeat. I've been meaning to do some testing to compare the effects of TH+1 versus just the job trait. But that involves lots of tedious work. D=

[Hanyoko]

Like this:
*!! example*

Thank you!

[NynJa]

Square would never let you get floor 100 clear then add reasons to have said clear patches later. No sir.

You mean when they added the Runic Key long after people have cleared to nyzul 100?

[Spira]

Of those, isn't Caller's Sash undiscovered? I have yet to see a report of a drop. Think this is the Tonberry NM?

Quetzalli is the only prespawned NM without an accessory drop yet I think. Only found drop was the PDT mantle. Ignoring Turul/Onvi/Antlion-thing and tonberry(If it ends up being prespawned even)

Yup. Caller's Sash is the last one, but it most likely drops from Tonberry Lieje, since all the JSE accesories drop from something that is freespawn (except Nahn, but his timer could be something to that extent)

Tonberry Lieje is the last lower level NM left to be popped.

Once Lieje and Bloodeye have been popped, the only mysteries left are Ovni/Turul/Myrmecoleon, the purpose of Bhumi/Akash/Pavan (who hasnt appeared) and Iratham

[Evane]

Ovni and Turul are already up (no pun intended). Let's assume Myrmecoleon has the same model as Orcus, by swapping its .dat file with another mob .dat we might be able to find its location (east of conflux no.7 maybe?).

According to Wikipedia Bhumi is a Hindu goddess of the earth (hence Titan) and Pavan is a Hindu goddess of the wind (so it's safe to say it's going to be Garuda). Maybe they are truly the key to claim those NMs.

[Spira]

Ovni is up? what's his pos? and pics?

and yes.. pavan = wind, bhumi = earth, akash = space. i already mentioned that before.

[Darkmagi]

Onvi is up? Pics? The fact that the other 2 avatars are up, but no NM has to be related somehow. Pavan being down but Turul being up (unaggroable though).

[Evane]

I haven't seen it personally but according to the jp wiki (yea yea I know) it's at K-5.

[Spira]

also, there is actually no proof that Ovni is a Yovra.
That was my postulation, but by analysis you can easily understand why.

If Ovni is up, we could put the Ovni-Akash theory into practice because it would be the only zone where those 2 are known to be present.

I don't think we can do anything about Turul until Pavan pops.

And Myrmecoleon is kinda unique since I dont think we can actually see him underground before he is popped.

[Evane]

You could see Myrmecoleon if you replaced the .dat files (it would show up as another mob) and the only place that has no mobs present is east of conflux 7.

Edit: Anyone knows if you could see normal antlions (chasm ones) using widescan?

[Francisco]

Probably a dumb question, but has anyone tried playing around with //fillmode to see if the NM antlion is hidden underground?

Totally random and wild speculation also, but maybe using some item causes the NM to aggro? Maybe causing "!!" on the avatars, etc...

[Massimo]

People have been using ApRadar, which is able to detect normal antlions, with no luck. This also means that .dat swapping and whatever else you're thinking of right now, is not going to work.

[Shadida]

You could see Myrmecoleon if you replaced the .dat files (it would show up as another mob) and the only place that has no mobs present is east of conflux 7.

Edit: Anyone knows if you could see normal antlions (chasm ones) using widescan?

No you cannot see antlion on widescan unless they're above ground. Woulda made camping Ambusher Antlion much easier back in the good old days.

I don't think anyone using radar has seen Myrmecoleon.

If you replaced .dat with dhalmels, you would see their heads pop out of the ground.

[Evane]

Probably a dumb question, but has anyone tried playing around with //fillmode to see if the NM antlion is hidden underground?

I tried that with the ENM antlion. At first it doesn't show up but somehow after the 2nd or 3rd sandpit it shows up.

[zagex]

If you replaced .dat with dhalmels, you would see their heads pop out of the ground.

The whole mob is above ground. I used to use mandragoras for the antlion enm so I could compare the size of the mob to me (taru)

[miokomioko]

I haven't really seen much discussion on this, unless I missed it. I'm in a Pachypodium pickup right now. Obviously, we aren't getting any Ruby lights from WS-kills like everyone else reports but we're doing them anyways (wasn't my decision). Our red chests are slowly becoming more abundant and even higher tier without getting any Ruby light from the few red chests we've found. I am beginning to believe it's simply glitched and the Ruby messages just aren't showing but are actually still taking effect. Getting mild lights, strong lights, gold light, and silver light now... Also, I've been doing a bunch of Blade: Chi kills and (lol eyeballing) I swear our gold chests are getting consistantly better while, of course, not getting any Amber light messages from Pachypodiums, as usual.

Another oddity: Blade: To, Blade: Teki, and Blade: Chi kills on Crapaudy all yielded Ruby light.

edit: got 2~3 weak Ruby lights from red chests and now we're already getting Strong Ebon out of reds...

edit: ok for the first time for me, Blade: To kill just gave Pearlescent. ??

[Aemora]

I believe it's called "Lag".

I gave up trying to fathom what the hell gave pearlescent lights when I saw a Pachy "fall to the ground", "defeated by a WS" and "pet defeats it" all gave off pearl.

So I figure it's just a crock of lag.

[miokomioko]

I was the one calling lag on other people, it's not lag. It was at 1% and I killed it with an elemental WS.

We have received a total of 2 weak Amber lights from red chests and now we're getting large gold chests. It's most definitely just a glitch on some mobs where the message isn't showing up.

[urat]

I was the one calling lag on other people, it's not lag. It was at 1% and I killed it with an elemental WS.

We have received a total of 2 weak Amber lights from red chests and now we're getting large gold chests. It's most definitely just a glitch on some mobs where the message isn't showing up.

I'll give this a go with my ls tonight on our run, if this is so I'll have to thank you for giving us an awesome way to farm key items without having to fight dick mobs.

We'll build up 30 azure and pearl then focus on elemental ws kills. See what happens.