Abyssea Discussion

[shukudai]

Don't see it mentioned, may have missed it, but Ovni I would definetly guess is Yovra, simply because Ovni is french for "UFO" >_>

[Thorny]

Blade:Shit is ruby not amber, so are some GK ws. They're combination melee and physical damage, the same applies to some SAM ws. Only true elemental WS give amber.. the difference is that true elemental WS cannot miss.

[ronin sparthos]

Blade:Shit is ruby not amber, so are some GK ws. They're combination melee and physical damage, the same applies to some SAM ws. Only true elemental WS give amber.. the difference is that true elemental WS cannot miss.

This is correct, stuff like Tachi: Ageha and Koki do not give Amber lights though they are elemental/magical in nature. Only weaponskills like Leaden Salute, Trueflight, Primal Rend, Sanguine Blade etc give Amber.

Speaking of amber lights, where would be the best camp in each zone to EXP while going for gold boxes?

[Darkmagi]

Have gotten amber off of tachi: jinpu and I'm fairly sure that's partially melee?

[Thorny]

Have gotten amber off of tachi: jinpu and I'm fairly sure that's partially melee?

I'd assume it's one melee hit, one magical. Aside from pics or it didn't happen to you, has anyone seen Jinpu miss?

[Darkmagi]

That would make sense. I'll test blinding potions + jinpu in a bit to see.

[NynJa]

I'd assume it's one melee hit, one magical. Aside from pics or it didn't happen to you, has anyone seen Jinpu miss?

Med up, aggro Cuelebre, attempt Jinpu?...Presuming melee magical WS's will still hit flying targets.

[Darkmagi]

Just missed a jinpu on a fomor thief.

[Massimo]

This is correct, stuff like Tachi: Ageha and Koki do not give Amber lights though they are elemental/magical in nature. Only weaponskills like Leaden Salute, Trueflight, Primal Rend, Sanguine Blade etc give Amber.

Speaking of amber lights, where would be the best camp in each zone to EXP while going for gold boxes?

[23:55:18]Kris readies Tachi: Koki.

[23:55:19]Akatora gains 183 limit points.

[23:55:19]yAkatora obtained 30 cruor.

[23:55:19]Akatora's body emits a feeble amber light!

[23:55:21]yThe monster was concealing a treasure chest!

[23:55:22]Kris defeats the Thalassinon.

Naw.

[Thorny]

That's.. interesting. I'm positive the NIN ws don't generate amber, but it seems odd that a SAM one with the same description would. Perhaps descriptions are vague, because there are more than enough physical ws with possible elementals.

Don't think a proper observation has been done on magic WS, but maybe the multihit can miss magic hit anyway because of a programming oversight?

[Clave]

I can confirm Jinpu and Koki do give Amber. I don't see any reason why Ageha would though. I never tested it.

[Seol]

DRG was generating amber light with Raiden Thrust on Bugards yesterday, I thought that was an Elemental WS too, and Elemental=/=Magical WS it's weird :/

[NynJa]

DRG was generating amber light with Raiden Thrust on Bugards yesterday, I thought that was an Elemental WS too, and Elemental=/=Magical WS it's weird :/

Isnt amber loaded on elemental WS?

[Flic]

just confirming we got amber light of frogs with jinpu aswell.

[arus2001]

I haven't really seen much discussion on this, unless I missed it. I'm in a Pachypodium pickup right now. Obviously, we aren't getting any Ruby lights from WS-kills like everyone else reports but we're doing them anyways (wasn't my decision). Our red chests are slowly becoming more abundant and even higher tier without getting any Ruby light from the few red chests we've found. I am beginning to believe it's simply glitched and the Ruby messages just aren't showing but are actually still taking effect. Getting mild lights, strong lights, gold light, and silver light now... Also, I've been doing a bunch of Blade: Chi kills and (lol eyeballing) I swear our gold chests are getting consistantly better while, of course, not getting any Amber light messages from Pachypodiums, as usual.

Another oddity: Blade: To, Blade: Teki, and Blade: Chi kills on Crapaudy all yielded Ruby light.

edit: got 2~3 weak Ruby lights from red chests and now we're already getting Strong Ebon out of reds...

edit: ok for the first time for me, Blade: To kill just gave Pearlescent. ??

I've just been wondering if messages are generically set to trigger if the added amount is of X value, but mobs themselves may give fractions that'll obviously never directly trigger the message. Plan B could just be a glitching. Or maybe the chain itself can increase the minimum rate of all to varying degrees. Oh well. Having a hell of a time into future groups since our shell's healers have pretty much capped out and everyone just wants to be on their melee.

[Auburn]

That's.. interesting. I'm positive the NIN ws don't generate amber, but it seems odd that a SAM one with the same description would. Perhaps descriptions are vague, because there are more than enough physical ws with possible elementals.

Don't think a proper observation has been done on magic WS, but maybe the multihit can miss magic hit anyway because of a programming oversight?

I'm fairly certain that Blade: Yu gives amber light.

[miokomioko]

I've definitely seen Blade: To and Blade: Chi miss. Blade: Yu has not missed for me yet...

What a stupid system.

[Not Kuno]

Do pets get the stat bonuses you buy for Cruor at the start?

[miokomioko]

I'm almost certain they do not...

My Spiritreaver automaton was still at its usual 997 HP while I was receiving +30%.

[Spira]

hopefully they'll roll out a pet buff abyssite in future...

especially since non-pet jobs will have such a huge advantage on stats with Atma-infused lunar abyssite