Abyssea Discussion

[kittycatrag]

chatlog: your visitant status will wear off in 13 minutes
NPC: your time will be set to 120 minutes
/uses 4 stones
chatlog: your visitant status will wear off in 23 minutes

SE needs to fix the amount of time the NPC says you'll have, at least. Or maybe it's a way to certain people to keep playing into the next month so they pay another subscription fee.

[dem0nfr0g]

Has anyone ever gotten two different key items off the same NM? For example, I want to know if it's possible to receive both an Atma and Abyssite from the kill or if there is only one drop 'slot' for key items per kill. Would also be useful to know for pop key item drops.

I received both the Mossy Adamantoise Shell -and- the Atma off of Chukwa same kill. Didn't screen it =/

[Clave]

I received both the Mossy Adamantoise Shell -and- the Atma off of Chukwa same kill. Didn't screen it =/

Thank you very much for the reply. That makes me feel better. I'm thinking of going after the corse NM for both the atma and abyssite.

[Cymmina]

I received both the Mossy Adamantoise Shell -and- the Atma off of Chukwa same kill. Didn't screen it =/

Mossy Adamantoise Shell isn't an Abyssite, it's just the key item for the next NM down the line.

[Priran]

Your point being

[miokomioko]

Is there even a NM that drops both an Abyssite and an Atma? I didn't think so.

[ronin sparthos]

Is there even a NM that drops both an Abyssite and an Atma? I didn't think so.

Mictlantecuhtli

[Plow]

Recap : Time you enter with (stored) + time used on extensions (traverse stones) will not go over 120 min for a single visitant status request. Time extensions from blue chests ignore this 120 cap.

Time extensions from blue chests, however, ARE applied to the cap.

I.E. if you enter with 90 minutes, get 3 time extensions from chests, you cannot add any more time via stones without exiting.

[AzazaelFenrir]

Incase there are certain Atma's that go to the whole alliance and some that don't, Corse gave the whole alliance his atma just now.

[Enygma55]

Incase there are certain Atma's that go to the whole alliance and some that don't, Corse gave the whole alliance his atma just now.

All Atmas are granted alliance wide. Did you happen to catch the trigger for it ?

[AzazaelFenrir]

I never saw a single !!, tried a couple of elemental WS. It is possible I missed it, but we never had it terrored and I use BMN. I would say we just got really lucky. Time to get myself a Lunar Abyssite now.

[Enygma55]

It appears Atma have a small chance to drop naturally but get a significant boost when striking Red, and not so significant boost from blue and yellow.

[dem0nfr0g]

Well, have people been trying JA's too? Someone in my LS said they read that Libra was able to trigger a !!, though I don't remember seeing that anywhere. If that is the case then Fuck You SE. If we have to cycle EVERY spell... EVERY WS.. and EVERY JA on EVERY NM because you decided to make it completely random.... yeah fuck you.

[Onorgul]

With only a few exceptions (things like Formless Strikes, Restraint, or Mug), I can't actually come up with a long list of JAs that I wouldn't use normally when fighting an NM, anyhow. But the Famitsu article indicates nothing about JAs. During one fight, I'd thought Sneak Attack had caused a !!, but it just coincided that our Thief used Sneak Attack at the same time our Samurai used Tachi: Gekko and it was the latter which triggered it, as demonstrated by a second use of Gekko.

[dem0nfr0g]

It is more a "Fuck you" to the fact that you will need almost every job at the camp, and go through every JA each job has to maybe find its weakness. Hell, have we tried Blood Pacts yet?

[Vegetatheprince]

Ephemerals...
I've noticed that ephemeral mobs are odd.

Facts: There can be none up in zone or 10 up in zone. If all are dead, they tend to spawn a fresh mob about 15 min after last death. No one cares about La Theine or Konschtat ephemerals and they tend to be plentiful.

Theory: All ephemeral mobs share a respawn. Say you kill every one in zone at same time, one will spawn in 15 min then another 15 min later and so on unless killed.

It's either this or Tahrongi only has one ephemeral mob which I highly doubt.

Also, I think avatars follow the same conditions as there can be 3 or so up at once or none and I've witnessed 15 min repop on Bhumi.


Unrelated: Does anyone have a reasonable way to build fame in Konschtat/Tahrongi?

[Salmijr]

Ephemerils in Tahrongi only pop if the mobs around where they spawn are being killed.

As far as fame, For tahrongi, do the hardened bones or refuel martellos until level 2 fame, then do stuff like Savory Salvation and for love of daughter until cap.

In Konschat, do Rose on the heath so that you can unlock picture taking, and take pictures of the T1 VNMs or any NM in zone and complete "Soul of the matter"

[stinkypoo]

Unrelated: Does anyone have a reasonable way to build fame in Konschtat/Tahrongi?

For Konschtat, I couldn't find anything better than this: take a bunch of pics of Pavan or the tier I VNM (since the latter is sleepable), then turn them in once per game hour. During downtime there's nothing much to do besides go afk outside the Maw. I know there's often a Pavan near conflux #4 & 6, but the one near 4 is better since there's no aggro. Either way /rng is useful for finding her. Once you're done taking pics you can pop Chainspell and kill her for the abyssite too!

You can also do the martello refill and (eventually) martello upgrade once per game day too, but they're kind of a gamble since you don't know if a martello (namely the one near the soulplate guy) will need to be filled up/upgraded.

For Tahrongi, I just did the bone quest until I could do the chef's quest, at which point I started doing both. Eventually this opened up the mandy capture quest, so I move more towards this one since it's fast and easy. Then came the cactus quest, which you'll wanna do 5 times for an abyssite anyway. I did the signpost quest once, and the cardian one a couple times. I don't think I have max fame, but it's high enough to do all quests in that zone.

Tahrongi & La Theine weren't too bad, but Konschtat is just painful.

edit: apparently a game day change can make a martello go from not needing to be upgraded, to needing to be upgraded. Therefore I'd recommend always flagging the upgrade quest when you go to turn in pics, since there's a martello right there. If you find it doesn't need to be upgraded, you can then find another martello elsewhere, or just not finish the quest that time. Don't forget that you have to report back to the martello NPC to fully complete the quest each time.

[Vegetatheprince]

Solid info, thanks.

[Zadimortis]

Three things.

1.) Has anyone heard or seen any sign of the Iratham/Caturae listed in the VoA bestiary? And what does the bit about "Fringe researchers have posited a relationship to a recreational pastime of a long-lost civilization" mean?

2.) Is there a definitive list in existence of the records of what actions create !!'s above monsters, their colors, and what effect each one has? I don't exactly feel like skimming 93 pages >.>

3.) I just got Sea a couple of days ago, and after watching those cutscenes and having seen the VoA cutscenes, I started to notice some correlations.
(CoP spoilers below)

Spoiler: show

- Because the light of the Fifth Mothercrystal had been drained, Al'taieu was falling into another dimension. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the five red lights and portal-looking thing above the Palace of Hu'xzoi is the portal to the aforementioned dimension looming to open over Al'taieu, and it is appearing in the sky because the space containing Al'taieu is coming in contact with/falling into this other dimension. That red dimensional portal majiger is the exact same color/shape (but larger) of the phenomenon that appeared over Port Jeuno as a result of Abyssea coming dangerously close to Vana'diel. And, keep in mind that Abyssea is another dimension.
- So far, Abyssea only takes place in areas with mothercrystals; namely, the three crags.
- In the CoP plotline, you take away some of the light of each mothercrystal when you do the promyvion of that area. The intention of this was to imbue you with the lights of the other four crystals, then "break you open" before the weakened fifth mothercrystal. Kind of like a quadruple bypass surgery. However, if you take the light from the other mothercrystals, which were already infected with Emptiness, that means you are weakening them. As we see with Al'taieu, if you weaken the light of a Mothercrystal too much, the region surrounding it falls into another dimension. And all the visible effects of this "other dimension" as seen through the portal over Hu'xzoi look strikingly similar to the known "other dimension" that is Abyssea.
- So, my theory is that portals to Abyssea are showing up in the three zones with crags because the mothercrystal at each crag has been weakened, and is drawing our dimension/world threateningly close to Abyssea, this alternate dimension. This also implies that Scars of Abyssea will introduce Abyssea-Vahzl (Abyssea-Xarcabard?), and Heroes of Abyssea will introduce Abyssea-Al'taieu.

This still doesn't explain why Cavernous Maws link the two realms. Could just say that a moogle did it. Or, in this case, a moogle made Atomos do it.

Or, I could be completely wrong about all of this. It's no more than just a bunch of ideas that swarmed my head at once after watching the cutscenes after unlocking Sea.