Abyssea Discussion

[Kegsay]

Updated La Theine map:

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...latheinepl.jpg

Will update as more info comes in.

[Julian]

@above post: That area above the pixies (which eventually leads to truffling truffles/monument) has funguars down the cliff.

Also, I don't think the extra xp mobs give extra crour, 700~750 exp gave 33~35 cruor

[Dakana]

Also for the above map the area just SE of the pixies at ??? 3 has Flies

[Cairthenn]

Some of the ??? pop locations on the Abyssea map of La Theine are incorrect due to what I assume to be hasty copy/pastes by me which I've since corrected. May want to re go over it.

Anyways, added some Tahrogni location info.


Also, urat, your useful post:not useful post ratio here is currently 0:18. You may want to calm down.

[Maurauc]

On the La Theine map, #4 is not at H-11, and Wiki is saying H-7... That was a fun 20 mins running around looking for that one!

[Julian]

On the La Theine map, #4 is not at H-11, and Wiki is saying H-7... That was a fun 20 mins running around looking for that one!

It's in that gorge thing or w/e it's called north of the lake. I KNEW I saw one of those dark crystal things there <.<

@cair: Wait, you mean... people still read urat's posts?

[Tezz]

Expanded a Conflux path on your map.

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http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/634...slatheinep.jpg

I tested straight running this with no movespeed and it took 14-15 minutes to the end.

Looking at 45min-1hr+ after farming mobs possibly.

[Gwynplaine]

After reading through a bunch of stuff from the zone dialogues (thx to Septimus) I pulled out some of the more interesting stuff:


Only way to get Atma seems to be by exploiting an NMs special weakness mentioned in Square's notes. From the sound of it this is not the same as *damage* weakness. When its weakness is hit it might not necessarily cause much damage but the result is impaired movement/abilities. Note the bits about using magic WS' and killing blows. Here's a bunch of NPC text relating to Atma and NM weakness':

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"For only the most savage creatures, you see, are known to yield atma.
And if you thought that weren't trial enough, only by employing special combat strategies will atma be yours to own.

Atma-yielding monsters are known to have vulnerabilities that, if exploited, may result in a swift end to the confrontation.

Strike at a foe's weakness, and it will drop different spoils, often more valuable than usual. Among them you may find atma.≻

The vulnerabilities can broadly be divided into three categories: magic attacks, physical-based weapon skills, and magic-based weapon skills.≻

For instance, there are monsters known to be weak against magic-based weapon skills.
Inflicting such damage upon them will impair their movement, and you may consequently be rewarded with atma.

All living creatures, however, possess the capacity to adapt, and vulnerabilities have been observed to change.
Be wary if you wish not to discover to your sorrow that a once-foolproof strategy no longer applies."

also a different NPC blurb
"If you've a mind to outlive your peers, then heed my words.
When engaged in combat with an Abyssean monster, you would be well advised to exploit its weakness.

While massive damage may not be dealt in so doing, you'll most likely succeed in impairing the movement and abilities of your foe.

Know also that changes have been observed to occur depending on your choice of killing blow. Do not be shy to experiment should the opportunity present itself."

The 7 "main story" abyssea quests as well as the Martello related quests "Refuel and Replenish" and "A Mightier Martello" do not count towards the 10 unique zone specific quests each areas NPC keeps track of.

There's 5 levels of quest fame in abyssea. It's probably zone specific and not just applicable to all abyssea zones but can't say. Here's the fame level estimating dialogue from the LaTheine NPC:

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Hmm... ≺Player Name≻, you say? No, never heard that name.≺Prompt≻

But do good for the survivors, and they shall come to know you.≺Prompt≻

Once you have their trust, they will more readily turn to you for help. Just keep your head down, and your day shall come.≺Prompt≻

≺Player Name≻...? Hmm... I might have heard that name before. Then again, maybe not.≺Prompt≻

You are not yet famous. Keep your nose to the grindstone and do your part for the people. Soon, they will know you better!≺Prompt≻

Ah, ≺Player Name≻. That is a name I often hear. People speak well of you!≺Prompt≻

Your deeds for the folk battling here have earned you much honor.≺Prompt≻

≺Player Name≻! You have become well known in these parts!
I hear much of your accomplishments. Keep up the good work, and greatness lies in your future.

Ah, ≺Player Name≻! You are famous among the community of survivors!≺Prompt≻

Of you no ill is spoken. Give to the community and it will give to you, no?≺Prompt≻

≺Player Name≻! I would venture that most who've taken refuge in the plateau have heard your name!

And your reputation sparkles. Indeed I am proud of you. And to think I first knew you when first you came to us!

Here's the different types of player light auras:
[a faint/a mild/a strong] pearlescent, golden, silvery, ebon
[a feeble/a faint/a mild/a strong/an intense] azure, ruby, amber


Different amounts of cruor or experience/limit points estimated by peaking into chests:
A /minuscule/A small/A moderate/A considerable/A princely/ amount of cruor
A /tiny bit of/a little/some/considerable/tremendous/ amount of experience


Different levels of abyssite VNM detection in Abyssea
The thing resonates [feebly/softly/solidly/strongly/very strongly/furiously]


A potential of 10 Abyssea areas eventually?
Warp to Abyssea - ≺Multiple Choice[Dummy/La Theine/Konschtat/Tahrongi/4/5/6/7/8/9/10]? Selection


Each nation and zone seems to have a few scattered NPC camps:
La Theine's 3 encampents: The northern base camp at conflux 1, the central camp at conflux 4, and the southeastern camp east of conflux 5.

Konschtat's 4 encampments: The central command at the entrance, "Camp Courage", "Camp Hope", and "Camp Vigilance".

Tahrongi's 3 encampments: Central, western, and northern encampments.

[Cairthenn]

On the La Theine map, #4 is not at H-11, and Wiki is saying H-7... That was a fun 20 mins running around looking for that one!

I admittedly grabbed it from either wiki or a ffxiah post. I was missing 2 4 and 6 myself.

[Maurauc]

I admittedly grabbed it from either wiki or a ffxiah post. I was missing 2 4 and 6 myself.

Makes sense. The rest I checked were spot on though. Thanks for the map. =]

[Onorgul]

Only way to get Atma seems to be by exploiting an NMs special weakness mentioned in Square's notes. From the sound of it this is not the same as *damage* weakness. When its weakness is hit it might not necessarily cause much damage but the result is impaired movement/abilities. Note the bits about using magic WS' and killing blows.

That sounds a lot like the Finding Faults quest, where some seriously weird criteria are recorded to complete the quest.

[Martinius]

couple of discoveries in konschtat today:

mobs are getting better AI (i didn't even know penance could be removed):

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1277506681

clionid function similar to puks, but ice rather than wind:

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1277506651

and finally a drink i'd never actually seen before:

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1277506682

i got drinks every time that we killed a glowing mob.

we tried the treant NM (siranpa-kamuy), and it wrecked us, mnk, sam, blu, pup, whm. it spammed an aoe grav + knockback move (which kept knocking our whm out of range). i imagine that he would be best fought kiting + rangers and blms. head butt landed. he seemed to have access to all treant tp moves (didn't see pinecomb bomb tho), and cast earth and wind magic, both single target and agas.

[Ezekial]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3584/loledith.png

Killed, I actually forgot to take a picture of the treasure pool but it dropped.

Arctier's Torque
[Neck] All Races
AGI+6 Ranged Accuracy+6
LV 80 WAR RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC

This dude was BAD ASS.

*Edited SS to remove player names, time stamps, infobar, the arenz icon that the dude in the SS below me has etc.

[Cairthenn]

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http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3584/loledith.png

Killed, I actually forgot to take a picture of the treasure pool but it dropped.

Arctier's Torque
[Neck] All Races
AGI+6 Ranged Accuracy+6
LV 80 WAR RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC

This dude was BAD ASS.

Recall where the ??? was exactly? And cool Arenz, bro.

Edited cause I'm a nice guy.

[Belkin]

Did Pantagruel drop a pop item for the next Gigas?

[Belkin]

The pop is down the ridge around the chasm. Not difficult to find.

[Fairy-Killer]

In Abyssea - La'theine, found Oversized Sock off of Hadas Gigas, the spawn point being on the west side of the hole they're around at (F-7), Giant Agaricus off Cankercaps in the bottom of that hole, spawn point must be down there, and then Transparent Insect Wing off of some sort of Gliders, found that spawn point a bit N or NE of those. Found that rams, velds, worms, flies, and pixies do not aggro in La'theine. And Mangy-Tailed Marvin is sight, maybe true sight, aggro.

[Ezekial]

Recall where the ??? was exactly? And cool Arenz, bro.

THANK! it was @ (F-7) takes a Gigas Sock to spawn.

[Maurauc]

The NM Bee is Truesight, found that out the hard way. Just in case people didn't know.

[NervosaEternal]

Correct me if I'm wrong but with how SE presented it, all of Abyssea should be doable with 6 people unless it was complete BS right? Cruor farming with an ally looks interesting, thanks for the info on the chests.

i dont know, me and my two roomates farmed about 600 cruor in about 20 mins of fucking round jus looking for shiny mobs and crap, so i would assume its doable with low numbers and without a linkshell.